king ubu

plus one. also he's a criminal...

i guess i prefer my joy coupled with sorrow ... first thing i thought of seeing this topic was Harry Miller, Dudu Pukwana, Chris McGregor, The Blue Notes, Brotherhood of Breath, The Jazz Epistles, Hugh Masekela, and first and foremost Kippie Moeketsi

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Okay, thanks! Too exhausted to read tonight, I guess ... will have to think about this for a moment (and whenever I'll see the box browsing, will grab it anyway, I guess )

Oh, so those are Tubbs tracks without Laine, then? Misread your post, sorry! Hm, if they're *really* good, that and the Spillett liners might justify ...

Oh well, I'm just making fun a bit ... but I think intelligence of cats is really overrated by all those pro-cat folks who hate dogs. But I do think our cat has some kind of relation to me ... much more so than to mère ubu for sure, as it was me who took care of her when she was small, picked her off the trees when she couldn't get down on her own etc. But it's also a very independent cat, on some days all we see of her is when she comes for food in the morning, and then she might return at midnight, demand food and be off again until next morning ... lucky she still is around, as there are plenty of roads and reckless drivers around. One of those caught our last cat, which we only took over, but which I loved dearly, too. I even started a thread here when we finally found out, a week after her disappearance, that she was indeed hit by a car ... actually drivers who hit animals are bound to report that, but obviously no one bothers about some cat. That was very, very sad - and as cynical as it might sound, the best cure was getting a new cat (some of you here stated just that in said thread), which is the current one (gee, how's that for sounding cynical?!), which again actually is "my" first real cat, raised and been here since she was a puppy, stolen from her mummy who nearly bit me to death when I took her ... I never saw such rage in an animal before that! All my leg and one arm were totally scratched and bitten! But then she had long started to push off the kittens and lost any interest, only when people came to pick them up, she turned into a fury. Normal, I guess, but I never witnessed that before.

Cats are much dumber, but they're more fun, too ... and they're blatantly brutal, too. And totally not capable of any kind of loyalty. But one big advantage is they're easy-maintenance and self-cleaning (well, mostly). Liability insurance generally does not pay for what your cat breaks as they consider cats non-domesticable ... and right they are, in most cases (including ours).

Same here, though all on CD ("Tubby's Groove" on Avid, "Return Visit" as part of the big Kirk box, the rest from ReDial and Impressed/Repressed). Only missing those Cleo Laine tracks ... but I'd also be interested in the liner notes! And obviously this box is musically excellent! Great chance for anyone who slept on Tubbs ... a load of his very best music in one place and for a ridiculous price.

hm, isn't there any found footage of baby Macca fron earlier so that could be changed? It's really outrageous the way it is now, wouldn't you think?

I grew up with dogs, now have a cat, love both, but need no kisses from either. I find it frankly rather disgusting and still remember this thread from back in the day, when I decided not to post anything, but since it's back up, here's my opinion (when I want yours, I'll give it to you )

Can anyone actually tell me who it is that is reviving the Classics label? And are they selling their discs anywhere or don't they even try? I see amazon.com has plenty of these assumedly available again titles with release dates in late January, but none are actually available there, and Worlds Records isn't an option for more than a moment, alas ... (they were too expensive for me, mostly, but I did order from them a couple of times).

Skip the Händel ... sounds like Keith Jarrett doing his schtick mid-70s (less moaning with Richter though) .... don't understand the fascination these recordings seem to evoke with some people. I found the Schumann great (though admittedly I still feel I'm not familiar much, although having heard some of Arrau's and Horowitz' and more recordings of piano works) and also enjoy the sh*t out of "Die schöne Magelone" (though I recently got the Prey LP from Orfeo, which is why I love it - that LP was played very often during my childhood and I still know the entire story by heart, it seems).

Happy Birthday Jon!

To me, coming all innocent and new into classical music just a few months ago, they were most welcome! The Heifetz and the Rabin first ... the later is amazing and compiles most of Rabin's recordings, as I understand - there are far too few! The Heifetz I prefer over the two Sony/RCA sets I've got - there's plenty of duplication in music, but I seem to be more drawn to the earlier ones in most cases. I ultimately also found my way into singers mostly via ICON boxes, getting started with Wunderlich, Gigli, and shortly after Baker, de los Angeles, Freni ... which again led to the desire to check out entire operas, which is one of my main listening pleasures these past weeks (and I've ordered a dozen or so more recordings just now, mainly Mozart, multiple versions of some operas even ).

I followed the link and again found that blatant marketing speak ... instead of a cover pic of the CD they'll release ... guess the later is nowhere in sight, as otherwise they'd certainly mentioned it? Too bad ... guess I'll have to get an earful of that stream as long as it lasts.

I wondered about just that, too, after having read the Worlds email this morning!

Didn't see where it says so ... frankly the mumbo-jumbo language in the mail sounded weird to me, all the way.

The Fournier is worth having, if only for the Beethoven cello sonatas with Schnabel! Wonderful box, in my opinion! I got lots of piano, violin and singer ICON boxes, the Jochum was always a bit too pricey so far, and the Kempe, too ... but I got the Schuricht, which has the Beethoven symphonies, and I got them from Toscanini and from Zinman, too - so whenever I start digging into symphonies, I'll have some recordings handy! (Actually I've had the Zinman for ages and gave the entire cycle a few spins, but only one since I started digging into classical music for real.) Favourite ICONs include: - Michael Rabin - Alexis Weissenberg - Jascha Heifetz - Dinu Lipatti - Solomon - Fritz Wunderlich - Janet Baker - Lucia Popp - Emil Gilels Also enjoy: - Nathan Milstein - Fritz Kreisler - Edwin Fischer - Claudio Arrau (though I've not played all of it yet) - Walter Gieseking - Sviatoslav Richter (again I'm not through with all of it yet) - Montserrat Caballé - Mirella Freni - Beniamino Gigli (I really need to dig deeper there, though) Then, I've got a few where I've barely scratched the surface (John Ogdon, Giuseppe di Stefano, Hermann Prey, Hans Hotter, Elly Ameling, Tito Gobbi, Jussi Björling, Elisabeth Schumann) and a few that haven't been touched yet at all (Mackerras, Schuricht). A few that are surely of interest I can skip since I've got the music elsewhere (Schnabel, Rubinstein, François ... also even though the new Toscanini isn't entirely in the big box, the repertoire is all or mostly there, in some cases in multiple versions even, so that's good enough for me ... and I will get the big Cortot box, so ...) The one I got that I could live without, I think, is the one by Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli ... not sure what all the fuss is about him, I don't seem to get it. The Melos box looks tempting, and I definitely will get the Fassbaender from the new ones, too. Also, I might eventually get the Kempe and the Jochum, and maybe the Franco Corelli and Elisabeth Schwarzkopf (again, I don't get the fuss quite yet, there). Too bad EMI isn't updating the website any longer.

Has Joki Freund's "Yogi Jazz" been mentioned already? wonderful album!

coming up end of March: The Heifetz Piatigorsky Concerts best description I found so far from amazon.es: I guess this is no news to many of you, but as I missed the big Heifetz Collection, it looks mighty nice to me!

amazon.es has the Cortot box for 45€: http://www.amazon.es/Anniversary-Edition-Chopin-Schumann-Beethoven/dp/B008V1IR4Q/

(can't think of a better thread to ask this in ... wasn't there a thread or some discussion of an EGO records box set reissue somewhere? There's a second one out it seems, but I can't find the thread and can't find anything on it, googling "ego" will list just about everything ever posted in the internets...)

Yes, "Zodiac" would have been the definitive selling point here!

I think I know very well what you mean, Steve ... I saw Ingrid Laubrocks large Sleepthief band, too, and that was the biggest problem of the music. But none of that with the projects I've heard of Mike Reed's so far (ROIOs, and now this one live concert ... haven't come around to play the LP and CD I bought at the concert, but the LP is by the band I saw, so I expect it to be similar). This band combines the exuberance and joy of Sun Ra and of Chicago/AACM Jazz in general (sure, there's grief and sorrow, too, and laments) with a way of dealing with composed material that reminded me more of Mingus than of the somewhat over-controlled work of Laubrock - who plays tenor on the LP instead of Matt Bauder, btw. That same Bauder was one of the biggest surprises for me in the concert, as I'd seen him before once (I think with Taylor Ho Bynum's sextet w/Halvorson, too), and he left a somewhat too controlled impression on me back then, as well ... none of that last night! He was raunchy, bold, and he played the largest part in a tune that really reminded me of Mingus, "Blues & Roots"/"Ah Um" perdiod, at its finest. What I also enjoyed very much (though I overheard Irene Schweizer in the break saying that two drummers were never really needed) was the twin-drumming of Reed and Fujiwara. The later may be the more sophisticated player, breaking up the beat in a more complex way, but Reed just feels great. Together, they stirred up an amazing swing that made me think of Klook doing his stomping thing during the heyday of the Clarke-Boland Big Band with Kenny Clare. Obviously, the style of Reed and Fujiwara is somewhat different, but that infectuously grooving and stomping beat was there just as it was with Klook/Clare (whom I only know, alas, from records and some videos). Anyway, one point of distinction may be Chicago vs. New York ... controlled exuberance vs. occasionally exaggerated control, maybe? I really wish I could see Chicago musicians more often, Ernest Dawkins, Kahil El'Zabar etc ... no matter if they "in" or "out" (actually, what I love so much about Chicago's jazz is that often it's both at the same time), they just convey a deep love for tradition that allows them to somehow dig deeper into music.