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Damn. For that price, I'd expect Stanley himself to be there.

Hey, I'm not minor league! I'm CRAZY LARGE! Ok not really, but I appreciate the props. One of my favorite unsung Hammond guys is Billy Gardner.

By the way, just to let you know, I did try J&R in Manhattan with your label and UPC code which they told me to get. They told me they are unable to get this CD under any circumstances. Then they are lazy. It's available via Cadence (North Country Distributors), and Artist1Stop. Not much else we can do at this point. But I appreciate you letting me know.

Those chumps. At least the Pistons won in OT.

He's George Young.

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I find this extremely funny for some reason. "That's not what I'm doing!" What, making money?

The reason Benny Green is even on the list (not to mention being #6) is quite simple: The "top jazz minds in the worlds of education, publishing and entertainment" work for his record label.

No reason to get pissy, rotasi. I'm just trying to explain the concerns from someone who has done three CDs now (two organissimo and one Root Doctor, totaling over $25,000) and is trying to make a living without having to resort to a day job. As Sangry said, "Function, scale, intent, and discretion." At this point in my career a CD is indeed a business card of sorts and is used more to spread to band's name than anything. However, I would certainly hope that someone, upon playing the disc for a friend, would not copy it for that friend and instead say, "You know, these guys are struggling, you should really buy this if you like it and help the band out." Again, I know this shit happens and there's nothing I can do about so I hope that you are correct and that people will come to our shows because they like our music, regardless of where they got it from.

I'm not spending that kind of money, but I've been doing close to what you said for years now. Friends and business acquaintances both. If making money directly from your first CDs is the goal, then this is sheer folly. This is not the purpose of making CDs. As I said before, your CD is your "business card." When you spend $10,000 on recording CDs, you can't think, "Damn, I better sell a lot of CDs!" If you actually did make money - hell, break even - you'd be considered an overnight success, - it'd be great if that actually happened, but it's quite foolish to expect this. Maybe, but I figure jazz listeners have more scruples than the average consumer. Perhaps I am wrong. I am not naive enough to think that people won't copy the disc, but I would tend to hope that they would think twice about it since it's not a "big corporation" getting shafted, it's a hard-working band that put up their own money to make something that you're enjoying. Why would I want this band to be signed? So we can go into debt to a record company forever and not make any money on CDs because people would rather take something for nothing? I realize that, but when this is all you do and you're helping to support a family with a small child and every month is a game to see if we're going to pay all the bills on time... well, it's pretty easy to get a little frustrated with owing over $8000 on your last recording and thinking, "Gee, it would be nice if people wouldn't copy this if they liked it and instead would just buy a copy for their friends. Hell, it's only $9 on iTunes to download it. What is $9 these days?" But instead people like to rationalize their behavior with hundred word essays on why copying the band's CD for a friend is actually helping the band. I see it both ways. And I know it can't be stopped, so I deal with it. But until you've put your ass on the line in a creative endevour like this, and spent a small fortune to make music for other people to enjoy, only asking them to pony up a pittance for that enjoyment and some refuse to do that... well, it takes the fun out of it.

Ah, Ramone Banda, of the Banda Brothers, who are in Poncho Sanchez's band (Tony and Ramone, bassist and drummer).

The solution to see who is "right" is simple: Go spend $10,000 making a record (which is very inexpensive these days), press 1000 copies, and try to just break even, while giving away copies to all your friends and telling them, "Hey, I don't mind if you copy it for anyone."

I gotta get some. I'm calling MSU Audiology right now.

If they won last year, they probably wouldn't have the chip on their shoulders that they do now. That team strives on being the underdog, although they are hardly underdogs this year. That game last night was a surprisingly good game. McGrady came to play and the Pistons could not stop him. But they proved that one man cannot beat a good team by himself.

Probably some local cats. Double Leslies is such a nice treat. I am definately bringing out my other Leslie for the RD gig this Saturday. If I could, I'd bring it to Baker's, too.

The link you're looking for is: http://www.fishorgans.com/joey2005.php

He just turned 21.

Wow. I did not think anyone could even approach Wilt Chamerblin's scoring prowess in this day and age, with the new rules and the defensive capabilities of players. That is incredible. Kobe still sucks.

I can do it. email it to me, please.

Exactly. There is so much focus now on "going to college" that in order to be a good school able to say "we send our graduates off to college", school boards lower standards so that everyone can get in. News flash: Not everyone should go to college.

mwjazzman, did you introduced yourself as being from the forum? Thank you for coming out! There is about a 99.9% chance we'll be playing the festival this year. I would say 100%, but nothing is ever certain. But I'm very confident we'll be there this year after last night! Thanks for coming and I hope you like the CD!

I haven't seen any of your CD's out there yet, but I have seen someone requesting it. Path: nntp.adelphia.com!news.adelphia.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:52:11 -0600 Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.jazz Subject: REQ: Organissimo - This Is The Place From: JazzNut <justjazzed> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Message-ID: <i_udno-RPrRyhPnZ2dnVZ_vudnZ2d@adelphia.com> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:52:12 -0600 Lines: 6 Really nice B-3 and guitar. Here's a link to hear samples. http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/...s+The+Place.htm Thanks! Yeah, I saw that, too. I thought it was funny! I do a search of the Usenet once in awhile to see if it's out there yet.

tentoten just emailed me. I wasn't aware my bro banned him. I too think it was a little forceful, considering his posts were concerning jazz and something that people here are interested in. I'll re-instate him.

Nice thread, Chris. It is a good kick in the butt for me that I need to go visit my mom's grave. I have not done so since she was buried in December of 1997. I'm not sure why I haven't gone... I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day. But that's a great new year's resolution for me. Thank you.

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