Larry Kart

"Don't Go Near the Water": From the fountains in the mountains Comes the water running cool and clear and blue And it comes down from the hills And it goes down to the towns and passes through When it gets down to the cities Then the water turns into a dirty gray It's poisoned and polluted By the people as it goes along its way http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/j/johnny_cash/dont_go_near_the_water.html

No, that's not really the point. The logic here is that even the threat of legal action is exceedingly unlikely - it's never going to come to winning or losing. Amazon and other Internet retailers are pretty risk-averse: rather than dick around with fighting to keep up boots here and there, they're going to invariably respond to even a C&D by simply taking down access to the boot. Which means that if you see a boot up there, Amazon hasn't been served with a C&D. Why someone would serve Jim with a C&D for board members' linking and not Amazon for actual selling...again, it really doesn't make any sense. The moral argument against linking is stronger...but I think it's unrealistic to think you can proactively rid the board of more than a small fraction of such links ("proactively" as opposed to moderators taking them down after the fact). Contrary to Larry's point, I don't think most who are linking to boots are intentionally doing so or know better; only some of us are walking discographies, and many do not think too hard about things like record labels (this board is about discussing MUSIC, amirite?). Hectoring a la Larry is not going to meaningfully reduce the instance of this problem. I didn't say that the people who were posting those links were doing so to intentionally violate the form rules -- rather, I think that in almost every case they were unaware of this rule in the first place or had forgotten about it. Thus, I wasn't hectoring anyone, just reminding people not to post those links. And I have more faith in the good sense and good will all of us than you do -- I'd be surprised if the number of those links doesn't go way down in the future. Yes, this board is about discussing music, but it's also about doing so within the boundaries of good behavior that Jim, the most beneficent of hosts IMO, has set up.

Couldn't be at the Fest this year myself for a blend of practical reasons that have no relevance here, but Reich's "observations" are not genuine observations IMO but part of a personal-political disinformation campaign that he has been carrying on for almost 20 years now. The same sort of thinking pervades many of his reviews -- or should I say "reviews." That is, he more or less decides upfront (on a more or less self-serving "political" basis) whether a fellow such as himself should or should not like a particular performance, and then he proceeds accordingly. My advice: Don't believe a word he says about anything; even when he's right (e.g. praises something that's praise-worthy), he's wrong -- because the spirit/motive behind the praise is typically venal and ugly, a move in a game. I should say that while my views here are ones that I could have arrived at just by reading Reich's work, I also know the man; we worked at the same newspaper for many years.

But it does demolish any legal logic used to justify this board policy. The point of the policy, I presume, is to immunize Jim from lawsuits lodged by copyright holders. But if the world's largest online retailer is selling the product, arguing that linking to such products will amount to likely lawsuits for Jim makes no sense. The point of a lawsuit is to obtain relief from harm; if nobody is bothering to sue Amazon, which is causing about 1,000,000x the harm Jim is in such a case...then why does Jim have anything to fear? It's asinine. I believe the point of the policy is not just a legal one but a moral one: people should not profit from the sale of bootlegs because the true owners of that music have not given their permission and are not being paid for it. That is my understanding of the point of the policy. Jim, as a professional musician, has the moral imagination to put himself in the shoes of other professional musicians -- simple as that.

READ THE FORUM RULES: 7) We do not allow sharing, trading, or linking copyrighted material that is being offered illegally, including bootlegs.

All Uptown releases are legit. Otherwise, Paul Secor's point seems sound to me: "If it looks like a bootleg, it probably is a bootleg. Don't post a link and let people find their own way to it. If they want it, they'll find it. Simple enough." So if you have ANY doubts, don't post a link. And don't ask the moderators to supply you with a Sky King secret-decoder ring and a ten-page set of directions and don't dream up outre, logic-chopping examples; just use common sense. As for Amazon, we've known for a good while that they don't care about screening out bootlegs or can't take the trouble to do it , so the presence of album on the Amazon site doesn't make it authorized.

Just to save all of us (especially the moderators) trouble -- forum rules state that no links to unauthorized recordings are allowed. I didn't plan to spend a fair-sized portion of my life as the man with a broom who sweeps up the elephant crap after a circus parade.

Forum rules state that no links are allowed to unauthorized issues. Thus the links in the above post have been deleted.

Linking to unauthorized recordings is against forum rules.

At his best, Cliburn was a great pianist, fantastic chops plus deep musicality in the repertoire that attracted him. Took me a while to reach that conclusion, given my reaction to all the early hype, but the recordings don't lie.

I thought the clip was going to end with someone shoving the mouthpiece down his throat.

How can it not, at least in part, be about Frank McCourt if "Angela's Ashes," however beautiful its prose may be, is also more or less a fantasy and one that implicitly or explicitly is unfair to others? The standard for memoirists is not identical to that for writers of fiction.

Well, if in the view of those who have some knowledge of the man and his background, he significantly shaped the telling of the story of his life to fit those prevailing, saleable stereotypes. Wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.

http://www.amazon.com/At-Hollywood-Empire-Duke-Ellington/dp/B004O0UQAQ/ref=sr_1_7?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1346163388&sr=1-7&keywords=ellington+hollywood http://www.amazon.com/At-The-Hurricane-Duke-Ellington/dp/B004LP2AIK/ref=pd_bxgy_m_img_y Just ordered them on the recommendations of an Amazon poster who I think is Moms and after listening to tracks on Spotify -- those tracks sounded excellent.

If this is real, and I think it is, good grief: P.S. In case you can't tell, he's trying to play "My Way." A certain justice in that.

Is anyone surprised with fanatics like this? I am curious. Since it's apparent that it's okay to in essence to say "Fuck all the French" on this board. Is it okay on this board for any other liked minded to say the equivalent with anyone of color, all those who are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Homosexual,...maybe even say let's turn Iran and the 78 million people who live there into a grease spot (oh yeah, the same "fanatic" made it very clear he's all for that as well.)....or is it basically some sort of "Freedom Fries" thing which makes it okay to say "Fuck the 65 million people who live in France"? Blue Train -- You've got to reach back to 2009 and dredge this up and then drape it in some "general" point about are we OK here with disparagement of "anyone of color, all those who are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Homosexual" etc. in order (or so it seems to me) to get at someone you have a long unhappy/angry history with on another board? Yeesh. I'll leave this post of yours up for a while so we can all walk around it and wonder at what must be going here.

I reviewed "8th of July" for Down Beat way back when. A nice memory.

I reviewed "8th of July" for Down Beat way back when. A nice memory.

Keep telling that brand of "truth" and you'll be gone. Read the forum rules and you'll see why.

I deleted Blue Train's name-calling posts for the obvious reasons and Goodspeak's reply to the first of them because it quotes Blue Train's name-calling. We just don't need that here in any form.

Jackson has been (since Dec. 2008) and still is Ed Farmer's radio partner. Geez -- Dunn has 38 home runs and 87 RBI. Where would be without him?

Is Hawk one of those things that wears better when you hear him every day than on and of a few days a year over the decades? I tended to enjoy his eccentricities when it was him & Wimpy on WGN a few times a week, but since then...not my guy, I know. Just wondering if it feels different when it is your guy. Was following the last inning of that game on MLB TV, and after the excitement wore off, I got to thinking like a Tired Old Man and realized that everybody could have saved everybody a lot of energy by just putting the damn game away in the top of the 9th, sparing the drama, and as soon as the game's over, hey, a boring win counts the same as a heart-stopping one. But these kids with all their energy and stuff, you can't tell 'em nothing, ya' know? No, it doesn't feel different when Hawk is your guy. Will never forget when his onetime partner Darrin Jackson told him to drop "a can of corn" because it was old and that he should find another cliche. From that moment, you knew that Jackson was was going to be a onetime partner. BTW, I didn't notice what was the source of some dispute by the Mariners on the last play of that game. They claimed that Konerko, the batter, passed Kevin Youkilis on the basepath as that crazy final play unfolded -- Yuoukilis probably having stopped to watch whether the ball was going to be caught while Konerko was still chugging along and watching, too -- and if Konerko had passed Youkilis, Konerko would have been out, even if the ball had been dropped, and the whole play would have been dead at that point. Whether in fact he did pass Youkilis I don't know, but if he did, and he could have, that almost certainly happened after the winning run had crossed the plate, at which point the game was over and the the rest was moot. Extra crazy there, and a sign that this game was being played under the sign of The Great Goofus, is that what neither Konerko nor Youkilis did on the basepath had any meaning, unless they themselves did something to screw things up. The game was tied in the bottom of the ninth when Konerko came to bat; the guy (Dewayne Wise) who was or was not going to score the winning run was ahead of both him and Youkilis on the basepath. And both Konerko and Youkilis are more than 10-year veterans. Eeesh.

Batshit crazy and perhaps crucial White Sox win tonight after the Tigers lose. Sox blow a five-run lead in the top of the ninth to go down 8-7 and then win 9-8 on a Konerko fly to deep right center that the Mariner right fielder catches and then has it knocked out of his glove in a collision with the center fielder, Dewayne Wise scoring from second. On the previous play, a Dunn deep fly to the wall, caught by the backpedaling left fielder, the normally savvy Wise for some reason drifted halfway to third and just stared instead of waiting on second and tagging up; if he had he could have then walked into third, and then even if Konerko's fly had been caught he still would have scored the winning run. And if Dunn's ball had not been caught, Wise could have scored easily on that play from second. You can put me on a board, yes.

I hold no brief (or briefs, for that matter) for Sandusky or Paterno, but while it's certainly possible that the Freeh Report was conducted in a rock-solid manner, it should be remembered that Freeh himself had a fairly ghastly record as FBI Director and also was quite ethically challenged in his behavior there: http://www.salon.com/2002/06/04/freeh/ http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/10/louis-freeh-new-gop-smear-artist.html

No, not a "problem" -- I just meant that I can't take you to a place when your experience, sensibility, intellect, etc. say "There's no 'there' there." As for "jue perle," I've heard some of those pianists on recordings -- e.g. Marguerite Long -- and can detect little resemblance between their touch and articulation and Solal's, which can be near explosive. Rather, in those realms (and others,e.g. his use of harmonic trap doors) I think of Solal as perhaps the most deeply Tatumesque pianist we have, though not in terms of photographic imitation. So, very Tatum-esque and also deeply Gallic? Well, before I try to tackle that (and that may not be for a while), your "Jewish pianist growing up in French Algeria playing a music widely identified as African American" doesn't convince me that the outcome can't be very French any more than "George Gershwin, a Jewish pianist-composer growing up in Manhattan's Lower East Side ghetto, playing a music widely identified as African American" couldn't result in something very American -- though, aspects of this (alleged) American-ness or Frenchness certainly could be something that such figures themselves significantly redefined.