Swinging Swede

When was the cover changed? I had never seen the original before.

You can count them as different labels if it helps coming up with new names. If nothing else we can have a special category for different subsidiaries (if that is the correct term in this case). Here are a few more names: Jack Millman Decca, Era & Liberty Bill Potts United Artists, Colpix & Jazz Crusade Vi Redd United Artists, Atco

I think it was recorded for Candid, but not released at the time. But if Chant du Monde is a subsidiary of EMI, he is off the list anyway. And another doh for Duke Pearson. Over 15 albums but not close to 20 years obviously.

Land makes the list anyway, but this opens up another interesting question, since MG speaks about recordings, not releases. If Blue Note or Uptown had released the Cellar recording in 2007 instead of Lone Hill Jazz, would it have counted as an album he recorded? Or does the session have to have been recorded by the label originally? That clearly excludes Bellson's Impulse album if so. I'm just asking; MG gets to decide the rules!

That's 14! Then there are these also: I was also pondering whether one could count any of the albums by the group he co-led with Hutcherson, like this one, but thankfully he makes the list anyway.

Doh! I have the OKeh Jazz CD, and dismissed Arnett Cobb and Johnny Griffin because they are on it, but forgot that Rodney is too!

Another list. Here are the rules: 1) The artist or group must have recorded two or more albums, but only one for each label. 2) If the artist is a co-leader, his name must be mentioned first. (so Booker Little's recordings with Eric Dolphy, where Dolphy is mentioned first, don't count.) 3) For the 78 era, let's say only one session for each label. 4) If anyone gets confused, majors are allowed! Here are a few to start with: Booker Little one album each for United Artists, Time, Candid and Bethlehem Chuck Wayne Progressive, Savoy, VIK, Focus, Prestige, Choice and Statiras (if AMG is to be trusted) Lou McGarity Decca, Jubilee, Argo and Fat Cat's Jazz (I trust AMG again) Lawrence Brown Clef and Impulse

Hmm, that's what listed in the discographies as the first of the three Prestige albums: Bridge Into The New Age (Prestige P 10086). Of course by that time Prestige and Milestone were both owned by Fantasy, if that means anything. But I discovered that Lawrence after over 30 years actually has a new album out, a Coltrane tribute, so off the list he goes anyway!

Some other suggestions: George Lewis Walter Bishop Jr. Kenny Drew Frank Foster Frank Wess Clifford Jordan Harold Land Howard McGhee Charles McPherson Art Pepper George Wallington Don Ewell Lu Watters I'm thinking that there must be many trad jazz musicians who qualify. They often recorded quite a bit over the years for smaller labels. Danish Papa Bue may be one example. [Deleted from the list: Jaki Byard, Barry Harris, Tal Farlow, Duke Pearson & Red Rodney]

I'm thinking that Louie Bellson may fit the bill, depending on how you count things. There was an Impulse album, Thunderbird, but according to the liner notes it was privately recorded in Las Vegas a couple of years before Bellson brought the tapes to Bob Thiele's attention.

Yes, it's difficult to keep these threads apart - I think I'll start another similar one!

Congratulations! Then you don't have to worry about the three last tracks on the Cool & Blue CD since you already have them on the Jass CD. The "bonus" tracks on the Proper and Jazz Factory CDs are taken from the Uptown CD, so you will get them there anyway. I listened to my Cool & Blue CD and also to some sound samples of the other releases and these are my conclusions. The Cool & Blue CD sounds good enough, but it seems probable that Mosaic was able to improve the sound compared to previous releases - they usually are. The Proper CD actually seems to be ripped from the Cool & Blue CD. The reason for this is: 1) It includes We The People Bop which is a live track from Royal Roost with a Woody Herman small group drawn from the Second Herd. It is on the Cool & Blue CD but not on any other releases. 2) It omits Chasin' The Bass just like the Cool & Blue CD. Is this a bass feature with no Chaloff solo possibly? 3) The sound on the 19th March 1949 session is worse than for the other studio session, just like on the Cool & Blue CD. The Jazz Factory CD however is very likely ripped from the Mosaic. The 19th March 1949 session sounds noticeably better, judging from the online samples, it includes Chasin' The Bass, and it lacks We The People Bop. This session is on the Oscar Pettiford CD too, so it could be taken from there, but the Andorrans have always ripped Mosaic sets before, so why not now? To sum it up I would say that the safest bet soundwise is to get the Jazz Factory CD. It's most likely ripped from the Mosaic set, unlike the other CDs. The only thing you will miss is the live track We The People Bop, but maybe you can live without it?

Yes, under her own name. Vocalion/Okeh (which counts as Columbia, I suppose) 1936-42, Decca 1944-50, and Columbia in 1958 near the end of her life (Lady In Satin). Impulse wasn't an independent even at the start? I didn't know that. No Coltrane then!

Also, at what point does Mercury start to count as a major? Immediately? Lester Young made his earliest "Norman Granz" recordings for Mercury, as did Charlie Parker.

Not Billie Holiday who recorded for both Decca and Columbia. John Coltrane?

papsrus, If you don't have it already, you should quickly get Afro-Bossa. It's one of Duke's best albums IMO.

Yes, but we want a picture of a coronet!

The three LP volumes of Count On The Coast were combined into two CDs. The first CD has LP 1 and the first half of LP 2. The second CD has the second half of LP 2 and all of LP 3. Then when a third CD came out with additional material it was called Basie's Golden '58 for some reason. More material from the same occasion has come out on Status and Laserlight, including tunes not covered on the Phontastic sets. Those who have the LP sets of Count On The Coast may have noticed that the tune G'wan Away is printed on one of the covers, but not actually included. Well, it eventually turned up on the Status CD above. The Laserlight budget CDs are thought to be from the same occasion.

Man sighted singing rap songs.

Thanks Lon. Seems there's only one CD issue of this material RCA Bluebird 66158-2. Anyone know the title? I'ts called Shoutin' Blues However, it omits the Deep River Boys feature Solid As A Rock. The Classics CD 1950-1951 instead purports to have all four master takes, but, as mentioned above, actually has the instrumental version of If You See My Baby. Since this material now is way past 50 years old it's not surprising that there are other releases like the Ocium CD BillF mentions, but I haven't heard that one.

Might that be because the French set inadvertently has the instrumental version without "Google Eyes"? And the Shoutin' Blues liner notes by Dick Katz confirm your assumption: "If You See My Baby" - Another novelty blues, with vocal by "Google Eyes," more formally listed as being J. August, a singer who did not make history.

I have something interesting to report regarding this track. Despite what discographies say, the instrumental version of If You See My Baby has come out. It is on 1950-1951 (Classics 1228), and they must have gotten it from some previous release, probably one of the French ones. I noticed this when I got the Classics CD some years ago, since I already had the CD Shoutin' Blues (RCA Bluebird 07863 66158 2), which has the vocal version with "Google Eyes". And it is not the same take with the vocal overdubbed, because for example Ammons's solo entrance is completely different. The Classics discography lists the take as being the one on LPM 1112, but it obviously is not.

I think the point is, or at least should be, whether the label actually recorded it (as opposed to later acquiring various tapes and releasing them).

But don't forget that Mama Don't Want No Peas An' Rice An' Cocoanut Oil.