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can anybody please help me find a cd that has this on it. i would love to track it down. I have it on this Classics CD but it can probably be found on some compilations too. One minor note: It was recorded in January 1941.
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Donald Byrd lost live album on Blue note((???))
Swinging Swede replied to chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez's topic in Discography
There is actually even more: Donald Byrd And The Blackbyrds Donald Byrd (tp) Allan Barnes (ss, ts, vo) Kevin Toney (p, el-p, syn, vo) Barney Perry (el-g, vo) Joe Hall (el-b, vo) Keith Killgo (d, vo) Perk Jacobs (cga, per, vo) "The Roxy Theatre", Los Angeles, CA, March 2, 1974 tk.1 Black Byrd Blue Note unissued tk.2 Livin' For The City - tk.3 Lansana's Priestess - tk.4 Witch Hunt - tk.5 Poco Mania - tk.6 You've Got It Bad, Girl - tk.7 Reggins - tk.8 A Summer Love - tk.9 Do It Fluid - tk.10 unknown title - tk.11 - - And, as was mentioned earlier, two Byrd tracks were on the Blue Note Live At The Roxy album. But more was recorded, as could be expected. Donald Byrd And The Blackbyrds Donald Byrd (tp) Stephen Johnson (ts, vo) Kevin Toney (el-p, org, syn, vo) Orville Saunders (el-g, vo) Joe Hall (el-b, vo) Keith Killgo (d, vo) "Central Park", Los Angeles, CA, July 19, 1976 17741 Places And Spaces Blue Note BN-LA 663-J2 17742 (Fallin' Like) Doninoes - unknown titles unissued * Various Artists - Blue Note Live At The Roxy (Blue Note BN-LA 663-J2) So maybe three lost Donald Byrd live albums on Blue Note. -
The Chess Thread! (not the record label!!!)
Swinging Swede replied to Jazz's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
Before today's round in the Morelia/Linares super tournament, the Norwegian wonderboy Magnus Carlsen, 17, has climbed to an astonishing 4th place in the world. Here is the unofficial top 5 Elo list after the last round: 1 Viswanathan Anand 2801 2 Vladimir Kramnik 2788 3 Alexander Morozevich 2774 4 Magnus Carlsen 2766 5 Veselin Topalov 2763 It's unprecedented for someone that young to climb that fast to the top. Realistically he should have many years left to develop. He turned 17 in November! -
Donald Byrd lost live album on Blue note((???))
Swinging Swede replied to chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez's topic in Discography
There is actually a lost Donald Byrd live album on Blue Note. On the Montreux Jazz Festival in 1973 Blue Note recorded five of its current artists. Four albums were released by Bobby Hutcherson, Ronnie Foster, Marlena Shaw and Bobbi Humphrey, but one set remains unissued: Donald Byrd Group Fonce Mizell (tp) Donald Byrd (tp, flh) Allan Barnes (ts, fl) Nathan Davis (ts, ss) Kevin Toney (el-p) Larry Mizell (syn) Barney Perry (el-g) Henry Franklin (el-b) Keith Killgo (d, vo) Ray Armando (cga, per) 'Montreux Jazz Festival', "Casino De Montreux", Switzerland, July 5, 1973 Poco-Mania Blue Note unissued You've Got It Bad, Girl - Untitled, No. 3 - Black Byrd - Flight Time - -
Threads you will miss...
Swinging Swede replied to bertrand's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
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You sure about that?
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Argo and Cadet are the same label. It just changed its name in the mid-60s to avoid confusion with a classical label.
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And he even made several posts in it back then...
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Which session did ONE FOR FIVE bonus track come from?
Swinging Swede replied to Dmitry's topic in Discography
No, it must continue until they are released! -
Yeah, that one decided it.
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Here's a link: http://www.jazzdiscussion.org
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Sounds like Charlie Parker's Lover Man session. The problem was obvious on the first tune, they only did one take of each number, and the artist didn't want it released. And yet...
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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the tapes are lost, just that the intended and recorded Tentet album never was released nor redone. Silver later rerecorded most of the tracks with his regular quintet and released the results as Silver's Serenade. I can't remember anyone saying anything particular about how the tentet tracks sound, but my guess would be that the ensembles didn't gel to Silver's satisfaction. There are however some tapes that really are lost, or at least not located yet. One such case is this: Grant Green Quintet Claude Bartee (ts) Emmanuel Riggins (org) Grant Green (g) Herbie Lewis (b) Idris Muhammad (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 29, 1970 6478 I Can't Leave Your Love Alone Blue Note unissued 6479 Let Yourself Go - 6480 Love On A Two-Way Street - 6481 Green Acid - 6482 Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head - 6483 Something - 6484 Let It Rain - Another is the many unissued tracks from Stanley Turrentine's Minton's recordings with Grant Green. Cuscuna could only find the issued tracks; otherwise we would also have had this: Stanley Turrentine Quintet Stanley Turrentine (ts) Horace Parlan (p) Grant Green (g) George Tucker (b) Al Harewood (d) "Minton's Playhouse", NYC, February 23, 1961 tk.1 The Serpent's Tooth Blue Note unissued tk.2 By Myself - tk.3 Blues - tk.5 In Your Own Sweet Way - tk.12 Squeeze Me - tk.13 Blues - tk.14 Just In Time - tk.16 This Can't Be Love - tk.17 Softly, As In A Morning Sunrise - tk.18 I'll Remember April - The non-released tracks from Jimmy Smith's Baby Grand recordings are supposedly missing too. I didn't post anything with The Three Sounds above and the reason is that there is an awful lot of unissued/rejected stuff by them. To take just one example, even though Live At The Lighthouse was reissued on CD with 8 bonus tracks, there could easily be a Volume 2: The Three Sounds Gene Harris (p) Andrew Simpkins (b) Donald Bailey (d) Dick Bock (prod) "Lighthouse Club", Hermosa Beach, CA, June 9 & 10, 1967 Sylvie unissued Like Someone In Love - Georgia On My Mind - Goin' Out Of My Head - Yesterday - The Shadow Of Your Smile - Stella By Starlight - Bluesette - Makin' Whoopee - Cute - Sherry - It Was A Very Good Year - Li'l Darlin' -
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Various rejected organ sessions/tracks were on that other list, but if we look at non-organ sessions, there is even more. Here are the more notorious ones: Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers Lee Morgan (tp) Hank Mobley (ts) Bobby Timmons (p) Jymie Merritt (b) Art Blakey (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Hackensack, NJ, March 8, 1959 tk.5 Jimerick Blue Note rejected tk.10 Quick Trick - tk.14 Hipsippy Blues - tk.15 M And M - tk.19 Close Your Eyes - tk.21 Just Foolin' - [This session is not that bad according to those who have heard it] Grant Green Quartet Wynton Kelly (p) Grant Green (g) Paul Chambers (b) Philly Joe Jones (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, November 26, 1960 A Night In Tunisia rejected Jordu - [Cuscuna first said that this was a bad day for all involved, but then changed his mind and said that the rhythm section was cooking and Green just a bit nervous. Most of the tracks made it to the “"First Session" CD, but these two were left in the can] Kenny Dorham Sextet Kenny Dorham (tp) Charles Davis (bars) Kenny Drew (p) Grant Green (g) Wilbur Ware (b) Kai ??? (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, March 19, 1961 tk.9 Mason Dixon Line Blue Note rejected tk.20 Blues Lament - tk.24 Cross "D" Tracks - tk.26 Blue Ching - tk.27 Spadesville - tk.31 9 1/2 Street - [Grant Green is good on this one, some others less so, according to those who have heard it. There have even been fake covers posted for this session. It looks great on paper.] Fred Jackson Quintet Fred Jackson (ts, cowbell) "Big" John Patton (p) Grant Green (g) Herbie Lewis (b) Ben Dixon (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 21, 1962 tk.5 'T Ain't No Big Thing rejected Peace Pipe - Jacksonville - [one track from this session with Patton on piano eventually made it to the "Lost Sessions" Connoisseur] Horace Silver Tentet Kenny Dorham, Blue Mitchell (tp) Grachan Moncur III (tb) Julius Watkins (frh) Junior Cook, Jimmy Heath (ts) Charles Davis (bars) Horace Silver (p) Gene Taylor (b) Roy Brooks (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 11, 1963 Silver's Serenade Blue Note rejected Sweet Sweetie Dee - Nineteen Bars - Next Time I Fall In Love - Horace Silver Tentet same personnel Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 12, 1963 The Dragon Lady Blue Note rejected Let's Go To The Nitty Gritty - Nineteen Bars - [The lost Horace Silver tentet album.] Grant Green Sextet John Gilmore (ts) Bobby Hutcherson (vib) Duke Pearson (p) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Billy Higgins (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 12, 1964 1299 Untitled Grant Green Tune, No. 3 Blue Note rejected 1300 Minor League - 1301 Grant's Tune - 1302 Un Poco Loco - 1303 Ezz-Thetic - [some of the tunes were rerecorded four months later for the “Solid” album (which also wasn't released at the time), but with completely different sidemen. This session is particularly noteworthy for the presence of John Gilmore.] Horace Silver Quintet Carmell Jones (tp) Joe Henderson (ts) Horace Silver (p) Teddy Smith (b) Roger Humphries (d) "Pep's", Philadelphia, PA, August 15, 1964 1413 The Natives Are Restless Tonight Blue Note rejected 1414 Que Pasa - 1415 Pretty Eyes - 1416 The Kicker - tk.1 I'll Remember April - tk.2 The Kicker - tk.3 Pretty Eyes - tk.4 Que Pasa - tk.5 Skinny Minnie - tk.6 Mexican Hip Dance - tk.7 The Natives Are Restless Tonight - tk.8 Que Pasa - tk.9 The Kicker - tk.10 Mexican Hip Dance - tk.11 The Natives Are Restless Tonight - tk.12 Skinny Minnie - tk.13 Pretty Eyes - tk.14 Que Pasa - tk.15 Mexican Hip Dance - tk.16 The Kicker - tk.17 Pretty Eyes - tk.18 The Natives Are Restless Tonight - tk.19 Que Pasa - tk.20 The Kicker - tk.21 The Natives Are Restless Tonight - tk.22 Que Pasa - tk.23 The Kicker - [Cuscuna gave the tapes to Horace and who knows what happened to them. How could this all be bad?] Charlie Rouse Quintet Charlie Rouse (ts) Joe Zawinul (p) Grant Green (g) Sam Jones (b) Frankie Dunlop (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 17, 1963 tk.4 Clo-E Blue Note rejected tk.13 Little Sherri - tk.17 What Kind Of Fool Am I? - tk.24 I Left My Hart In San Francisco - Charlie Rouse Quintet Freddie Hubbard (tp) Charlie Rouse (ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Bob Cranshaw (b) Billy Higgins (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, January 22, 1965 1506 tk.9 Little Sherri rejected Untitled Original - Untitled Minor Blues - 1507 I'm Glad There Is You - [Charlie Rouse had two rejected sessions and “Little Sherri” was played on both. The latter version is from the same session that yielded One For Five, and according to Cuscuna it has a bad trumpet solo. If that is the only problem, it could have been edited and released as a perfectly fine Rouse track, and maybe the others too.] Herbie Hancock Nonet Melvin Lastie (cor) Julian Priester (tb) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Pepper Adams (bars) Herbie Hancock (p) Billy Butler, Eric Gale (g) Bob Cranshaw (b) Bernard Purdie (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, July 19, 1966 1770 tk.12 Untitled Ballad rejected 1771 tk.14 Untitled Blues - 1772 tk.15 Soul Villa - 1773 tk.17 Untitled Blues, No. 2 - 1774 tk.21 Don't Even Go There Blue Note CDP 7243 4 95569-2 1775 tk.26 You Know What To Do rejected * Herbie Hancock - The Complete Blue Note Sixties Sessions (Blue Note CDP 7243 4 95569-2) [one track eventually released on the BN box; what about the rest?] Jackie McLean Sextet Woody Shaw (tp) Jackie McLean (as) Tyrone Washington (ts) Bobby Hutcherson (vib) Scott Holt (b) Norman Connors (d) Plaza Sound Studios, NYC, July 5, 1968 3054 In Case You Haven't Heard Blue Note rejected 3055 Hymn To Rap - 3056 One For Jeru - 3057 Kupenda - 3058 Abrasion - [McLean’s last Blue Note album and not released because he didn’t like the drummer. If that’s the only problem, this could probably be released.] Tyrone Washington Quartet Tyrone Washington (ts) Herbie Hancock (p) Herbie Lewis (b) Jack DeJohnette (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, August 16, 1968 3085 tk.2 or tk.4 Untitled (medium tempo) Blue Note rejected 3086 tk.6 or tk.8 Untitled (3/4) - 3087 tk.9 or tk.10 Rene - 3088 tk.11 or tk.12 T - 3089 tk.14 or tk.15 Untitled (9/4) - [The most famous of them all, the “Train Wreck”! According to Belden or Evered (I forget who) this is not so bad, and at least some of it could be released. That points to one of the problems with these sessions; they are usually listed as rejected because Cuscuna thinks so. Someone else could (and have) come to a different conclusion.] Lee Morgan Quintet Lee Morgan (tp) Frank Mitchell (ts) Harold Mabern (p) Mickey Bass (b) Billy Higgins (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, September 13, 1968 4007 tk.4 Blues For Mr. Tatum rejected 4008 tk.8 The Sleepwalker - 4009 tk.11 Mickey's Tune Blue Note CDP 7243 5 22467-2 4010 tk.16 The Chief rejected 4011 tk.21 Leebop Blue Note CDP 7243 5 22467-2 4012 tk.29 Extemporaneous - * Lee Morgan - The Sixth Sense (Blue Note CDP 7243 5 22467-2) [Cuscuna first said that this session should be burned, then he released half of it as bonus tracks to “The Sixth Sense”. According to those who have heard the other tracks, they are not noticeably worse.] Grant Green Sextet Claude Bartee (ts) Willie Bivens (vib) Clarence Palmer (el-p -1/4,6,7) Earl Neal Creque (el-p -5) Grant Green (g) Jimmy Lewis (el-b) Leo Morris (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, October 3, 1969 6. tk.26 or 27 Wichita Lineman unissued 7. 5250 tk.30 By The Time I Get To Phoenix - [From the “Carryin’ On” session. I mention this because when “Alive” was first released on CD it didn’t have any bonus tracks. Then it was rereleased on CD with three bonus tracks. Apparently the producer missed them the first time, and since "Carryin' On" was released in the same series, it could be the same with these two extra tracks.] Wayne Shorter Quintet Wayne Shorter (ts) Barbara Burton (vib, bells, per) McCoy Tyner (p) Miroslav Vitous (b) Alphonse Mouzon (d, per) A&R Studios, NYC, October 13, 1970 tk.3 Pt. 1: The Creation Blue Note rejected tk.4 Pt. 2: B. Because - tk.5 Pt. 3: Cee - tk.7 Pt. 4: Dee - tk.8 Pt. 5: Effe - [This is also not so bad according to Belden or Evered]
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Goooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Swinging Swede replied to Van Basten II's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
Eduardo nearly had to be amputated. Absolutely horrible. Something funnier happened in Real Madrid-Getafe. Arjen Robben scored a goal for Real Madrid, or so they thought, but it had been offside, so Getafe got a free kick and scored a goal while the Real players were celebrating. Here's a longer clip with some more replays: Real Madrid-Getafe 0-1 -
Clark Terry is still alive. Illinois Jacquet was at the time of the question, although not anymore, alas. Also, is Snooky Young still live?
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There was a CD from circa 1990 that had two bonus tracks. I have a fairly recent Japanese reissue (UCCU-5165) which also has those two bonus tracks. And the CD Universe listing also has two bonus tracks (could be in error from the previous CD reissue, I suppose). The original Argo album had 8 tracks, while these CDs had 10. However, Lord lists a total of 17 tracks of which 4 are unissued, so a complete edition would be the definitive way to do it. Not that Verve in 2008 will.
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So all have been on CD before except the Smith at Village Gate. I wonder if they will use existing Japanese remasters for some of these? But let's look at this from the positive side. At least Verve is reissuing non-Ella albums again, and there is at least one that is new to CD. Maybe more will come now?
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Preparing for exile in what could be a hostile land
Swinging Swede replied to pollock's topic in Forums Discussion
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Fortunately those have all come out on CD, after the Japanese came out with a nice batch of Verve albums a few years. The Japanese may have gone OOP (I'm not sure), but perhaps they are not impossible to track down if so. They included On My Way & Shoutin' Again! (1962) Basie Land (1963) Basie Picks The Winners (1965) Basie's Beat (1965/67) One disappointment here was that Winners only was in mono. Oh well, better than nothing. Prior to that there had been "domestic" reissues of the other 60s Verve albums: More Hits Of The 50’s And 60’s [a.k.a Frankly Basie] (1963) Li’l Ol’ Groovemaker (1963) Basie’s Beatle Bag (1966) Of course, today Universal also owns some of the other labels Basie recorded for, including the Dot albums Tommy mentioned, Straight Ahead (which was just that in an era when Basie usually had to record pop material) and the live Standing Ovation. The former was on a domestic reissue and the latter was fairly recently on a Japanese CD.
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Well, if you like "Lockjaw", he was quite a bit with Basie in the 60s and early 70s. The Pablos signalled a return to straight ahead jazz after the pop excursions of the 60s. In a way they can be seen as more of the same, I suppose, but if one likes New Testament Basie, that is more of a good thing. And the sound is excellent on the Pablos too, superior to anything Basie had recorded before. The emphasis was on new charts by Sammy Nestico and others, and you get to hear Jimmy Forrest with the band in 1975-77, for example. By all means, get the earlier classic New Testament albums first, but if you after that want more, the Pablos should not be dismissed. (I'm talking about the big band albums here, the small groups were a different animal of course.)
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The last released Basie session was recorded in December 1983. BUT according to Chris Sheridan's Basie discography, Basie and his orchestra recorded enough titles for four LPs in March 1984, the month before he died. Titles are unknown. That raised my eyebrows when I first saw it. Was it recorded for Pablo or something else? Four albums and nothing of it released. What's up with that?