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I am not so sure, as you seem to be Chris, that the passengers were trying to save themselves. First of all, I am not sure that there were any passengers on the plane capable of flying it. Even as depicted in the film, and I don't know whether it was true, there is only one guy who says he is a pilot, but he hastens to add he has never flown a plane like the one they are in. Furthermore, he also states, and again whether he was a real character or not it must have been obvious to the passengers, that given that the plane was flying so low to the ground, the odds of getting the controls away from the hijackers without hitting the ground would be practically nil. It is true that they knew that by keeping still, they were probably going to die anyway, but nevertheless where there is life there is hope. They were still along way from Newark or Washington when they fought back. They could have hoped that maybe the hijackers could have chickened out, or maybe that given that the other planes had hit their targets, maybe this one did not have to. I could imagine any number of scenarios where you might hope to live. And it was no easy matter to attack these hijackers who were clearly going to fight back with knives- that is harder than dying in an instant. Once the passengers attacked, I have to believe that they did not have much hope of surviving much longer. I think that they were motivated by the idea that they were saving other american lives or american buidings, institutions, whatever. That would make them heroes in my book. And Chris, spare us the lecture about name calling, you have done plenty of that.

So Alex, let me get this straight, you become irrational and inhumane by fighting against the people who are trying to kill you? Give me a break................ So Alex, if someone were trying to strangle you, would you just let them finish the job out of fear of losing your humanity?

Shouldn't this be moved to the Politics Forum???

If you want exciting new jazz listen to the Paul Motian Trio. As for the the reissue issue, I don't feel bad buying them because a lot of "new" Jazz sounds like it could have been made years ago to me. That would include Marsalis, Redman, Hargrove, and countless others -all that supposedly new stuff.

"This is the Place" has now officially moved into to my permanent collection and is sitting between an Oregon cd and a Charlie Parker cd - now that is company!!!

Maybe this is what you are talking about Allen, but I found it frustating to wade through more than half of the book before he even gets to the Bebop Era- seems the emphasis slightly misplaced there. I was underwhelmed by the book in general.

I saw Jackie in clubs many times and once in a concert that was a tribute to him at Lincoln Center - that was in the 90s- he, and others played a number of Jackie's classic compositions including "Appointment in Ghana". I should say that all of the other times I saw him live were in the 90s too. For Lincoln Center - this was a great concert. The most recent gigs were those at the Vanguard and it seemed he was showing up every December to play with the Cedar Walton Trio. If I remember correctly it was a mixture of standards and some of his tunes. These were marvelous gigs. But I also saw him a few times in the mid 90s or so with Rene, his son, and a much younger band, when he had a flurry of new recordings out- Rhythm of the Earth or some such title like that. I was not crazy about this band and their material, but I always enjoyed his playing.

I got a second copy and the defect is still there. Nevertheless on balance I like the RVG over the 20bit K2 remasterings.

Anyone get the Lush Life cd by Coltrane from this series? I notice that on the first few seconds of the opening track (Like Someone In Love) there are some pops or clicks. Do I have a defective one or is this just that the RVG is more revealing?

Sad news indeed. One of my all time favorites

It's Time is just a great Jackie McLean release. and the Hill date is just superb, much better than many of the Hill reissue dates that have been released over the past years. I was despairing it would never come out. Like Lon, perhaps I would have preferred these to be RVGs.

Bertrand I was having similar problems playing it on my cd player - track 6 or 7 skipped. Looking closely at the disc, I notice a slight blur (maybe oil from pressing process?) After wiping the cd carefully - I got the skipping to stop.

thanks for all your helpful comments

Was the Lp version of this made using NONoise? Is the sound quality on the vinyl significantly better than the available CD?

Ok, I am a bit late to this party, having hoped that after your big splash playing live in NYC that the stores here in NYC might carry this cd. After several attempts to order the thing, I just decided to send JimA. the cold hard cash. Have listened now to the cd several times and I am really enjoying it. The first thing that struck me was how nicely balanced the talent in the band is and how everyone contributes and gets to be heard. All three take solos that I liked. Also I liked the writing on several of the original tunes, but in particular I liked "Smoking Section" and I think that is my favorite tune on the CD. I thought the intro to Tenderly by Joe was a fantastic change of pace from the frankly danceable tunes (making me think you guys must really really shine when heard live) that preceded it and then of course, your version of Tenderly- very different and engaging. Congratulations to all of you - I am really enjoying this one!

I love this album too. As I have said before, this is my favorite working band, so what's not to like? It's a live recording,the recording quality is excellent and the band is on. The tunes are the usual mixed bag of Monk tunes, a standard (Good Morning Heartache- in this case) and Motian's own quirky bunch of tunes. I think I see why he likes Monk, because Motian also like very simple melodies as Monk does. I am not sure how I would rate it against other Motian Trio albums, as I find it hard to decide between them, but I can't think of one that is clearly superior to this.

well FFA it looked like more than a discographry to me. Each album has at least several pages of commentary and I consider a discographry to be merely a list of all of the artist's albums. also while the number of albums discussed is substantial, I am not sure each one is discussed.

I saw it in paperback. the author is P. N. Wilson. written 2001 and appears to deal with just the music. anyone read it and have comments? It looks very good from a brief flip through the pages. why haven't I seen this before.

Thanks GA for the report. not good news though.

It was yesterday and they showed him at his estate outside London. I love the guy. He sits down at the B3 organ and plays the opening notes from some Jimmy Smith riff...wish I could remember which one.

What you guys who support that dad paying in all cases are leaving out is the scenario posed by my friend's case (see above). what if supporting the child you were told you would not have means taking money away from your current wife's medical treatment. Who are you disrespecting now? Should the current wife be consulted? After all she is working and they have pooled their money. What if she says she feels no obligation to support the child? Do you ignore her?

I don't think your friend is an asshole, either. The topic of this thread refers to the guy in the story I linked. Obviously, every case is different. And I don't blame you for not having sympathy for the woman, but not having sympathy for the child, who had no choice in this matter, is rather callous, imo. Yes, Jim You have a point there, I guess if I really think about it, the kid deserves sympathy - I just have a hard time separating the kid from the Mom, and from my friend's rather dire financial situation. But when I really think about it, yes you are right about the kid.

I have a friend who was dating a woman a few years back and she told him she was on the pill and they had a mutual understanding there would be no children. This was a fling and no real love match. They later broke up (she dumped him) and after the break up, she is pregnant with what he admits is his baby (he got tested). She later told others she was tired of the dating scene and wanted a child- she did not share this with my friend whose baby she decided to have unbeknownst to him. Meanwhile, he finds mrs. right and gets married for real, but the fling woman is hitting my friend up for total support of her and the child while she is unwilling to lift a finger. My friend's wife later has unfortunately some real health issues and they were temporariily without health insurance and so they have a six figure medical bill to deal with and he does not really have the funds to support his sick wife and this baby he never agreed to have. I do not think my friend is an asshole and I have little sympathy for fling woman and her baby. I think that in this day and age, with birth control, the decision to have and raise a child must be consensual. If you have a scenario as my friend has - I don't think it is fair to him.

yeah, Ratliff is on a roll. I have one Roy Haynes story. in the last year, I was waiting in line at the Vanguard to see the Paul Motian Trio. Standing in line next to me was Roy Haynes - who looked and particularly dressed like a college student.

It was scheduled, like the Miles box for the 1st quarter of 2006. I see Miles has a new date, where's Sonny?