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It's not one I listen to often, but I've had the lp since it's release. Buster Williams and Toodie Heath got my attention on this one. THEY sound pretty good here.

Oh yeah...in addition to all the above...on several photos and on at least one or two lp covers Booker is wearing an eye patch. In additon to all else I guess he had one eye.

Hmmmm...I checked the before 20 box, but it looks like it registers as the "in my 20s" box or I goofed. In any event, I actually was bitten by the jazz bug when I was 10 or 11, maybe a little earlier - sometime in the mid to late 1950s. I can remember the variety shows of the era (Sullivan, Allen, etc) and always being fascinated by appearances by Louis Armstrong, Basie, Ella, etc. My uncle had a small jazz collection consisting of 2 or 3 boxes of 78s (any remember those brown 78 cases covered with phony leather paper?) and about 30 or 40 lps, mostly 10" at the time, but a few 12". Lots of Louis and Condon. Lots of COMMODORE! He put some on during a New Year's Eve get together and I was hooked. Within a year or two I was digging Miles and Bird along with Pops, Condon, Duke, and Wild Bill Davison. I was reading DOWN BEAT and wondering what the hell were the boppers and moldy figs arguing about.

Booker was pretty FLAMBOYANT. There's a lot about him in DR JOHN'S autibiography that came out a couple of years ago. I think it was called UNDERNEATH THE VOODOO MOON. In any event, it was a pretty good book. Booker was a huge influence on Dr. John both singing and playing. Booker reputedly ghosted piano parts for Fats Domino and Little Richard, moreso as a recording expediency, rather than any insufficiency on the part of Fats or Little Richard. He played organ also and played that instrument on YOU CAN'T SIT DOWN, a pretty hip instrumental by the PHIL UPCHURCH COMBO. He recorded under the name Little Booker for Ace. In the late 70s and early 80s there were at least 3 or 4 lps out by Booker. I remember one was called CLASSIFIED.

Yeah...I'm hooked again. I was sitting there wondering which of the characters was going to turn this time. I'm suspicious of Kim's boyfriend, the President's brother, the computer geek who argued with Kim, etc. Jack's been through the mill, but it looks like he's going COLD TURKEY (!) right in front of us...as we watch! The only really predictable scene for my money was Salazar's "pen through the neck" trick. I saw that coming.

Yeah....This is great stuff. I didn't get the entirety until the Mosaic set either. The front line of De Paris, Hall, and Dickenson is great and the rhythm section is swingin'. James P. is a total blast throughout.

Thanks for a great disc Jim. There's A LOT here that I dug and it will definitely get me exploring a few people I've haven't previously spent enough time time listening to. One in particular I'm bugged that I didn't get is the Lee Morgan cut. I usually can ID Lee pretty quickly, but the Miles approach fooled me. I HAVE that record too (!), AND I liked it - I just haven't paid it it's proper due listening time. Jack Wilson is definitely going to get further listening to from here on. I dug his playing on that track.

The TARGET commercial is the same tune with English Language lyrics (as opposed to the original Brazilizn lyrics) and the vocalist singing that commerical is.....PEGGY LEE. Just a little blindfold test within a blindfold test.

Ditto

HEYYY...... A thread about UPHOLSTERY !

Yeah...WKCR lasted about 20 seconds on the car radio this morning. Oh well...it's usually my favorite station. BIRD FLIGHT on the ride to work. I guess they can be forgiven - at least when they play something you don't like, you usually know how long not to tune in.

WBGO FM in Newark NJ and WKCR FM in NYC. Both have websites - just put a www in front and a .org in back.

Sad news - RIP, Marie. The only recordings I have by Marie are with "Preacher Rollo" Laylan and his Five Saints. They were a hot attraction in Miami in the early 50s. Rollo was an ex Paul Whiteman drummer and had worked at Eddie Condon's and the band included Tony Parenti on clarinet and Tommy Justice, and excellent trumpeter. They did a string of recordings for MGM and the records are good - a tight, cohesive working band in the Condon mode. Marie sounded great. Sorry to see her go.

Great disc, Jim. I'll enjoy thsi compilation long after this test is done. When I first listened through I made notes: Here goes: 1 - Got this one right away. Vince does that little flourish ALL the time. The only record I own of his is the 45 of CAST YOUR FATE TO THE WINDS, and that's buried in a box somewhere , but I have to say this sounded great and swung through out. 2- Vibes with rhythm. Nice tune. My first thought was Bags or Hutch. 3- This is might be the ringer. It's not Miles, but the whole thing is very much in his quintet bag. The pianist, if it isn't Wynton, is playing a Wynton lick from SOMEDAY MY PRINCE WILL COME several times. I'm curious about this one. Anybody else - please put your 2 cents in on this one. 4- Two guitars, bass and drums - son't know who. 5- HOW AM I TO KNOW. Take that any way you want to. I think I have this, but I can't place it. 6- Nice Piano Trio. Judging by the bass playing it's not TO old. Which for me means it's from sometime in the past 15 or 20 years. 7- Nic e - Don't know who. 8- Gotta be Getz. If it's a clone...HE COULDA FOOLED ME ! 9 - Don't know - but I like it. 10- Same 11- Same 12- Eddie Harris. I love practically every thing he played. 13- I MEAN YOU. Its OK - Never really takes off for me. I love the tune - one of my favorite Monk things. 14- Nice vocal - no guess. 15- Don't know 16 - THE GOOD LIFE. This guy has a lot of chops. Again -I SHOULD KNOW THIS. Dese tests can humble ya, I tell ya!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHRIS AND MANY MANY MORE!

Yeah...this is a GOOOD album. One of my favorites for both Grant Green AND Larry Young. TALKIN' BOUT is right there with it too. I view them as companion pieces - for years I had a cassette with both lps taped on it.

Thanks Lon. The search is ON.

My wife and I saw INTOLERABLE CRUELTY this afternoon - thoroughly enjoyed it. Some pretty big laughs here and pretty often too. Anybody know who did the GLORY OF LOVE that played at the end? I couldn't hang to see the credits.

>>"why did people say that you couldn't dance to bebop?<< I'm not quite old enough to say that this is the way I remember it, but I think this a possible and probable scenario. Maybe somebody just a little older can put their two cents in and verify or dispute my point. When Bebop came along the chief competitor (espescially in the black community) was what we now call R&B, but at the time was called ROCK AND ROLL. The R&B, with the drummer hitting 2 & 4 on the snare all the way through, spelled out the groove for the dancers. Obviously, to the musically astute, the groove was there with Bop also, but for the less astute, the BIG BEAT, as it was then called, was easier to dance and more acsesssible - the backbeat spelled it all out. To us Jazzers, Swing progressed to Bebop and Diz, Bird, Fats Navarro, etc. For Black America Swing morphed to Wynonie Harris, Roy Brown, etc - for White America it morphed to Pattie Page, Perry Como, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, etc. Again - the foregoing is as far as the general public was concerned. True Jazzers then, as now, were a minority. Maybe not as much of a minority as now, but a minority none the less.

IMHO , the transition from "small band swing" to "bebop" was a lot smoother than the view that most books give us. I think BEBOP was primarily a marketing term. Yes - Bird and Diz were innovators of the highest order, but the music was firmly rooted in what went before. Listening to many things from the late 30s through to the mid 40s, it's difficult for me to really find a definitive line separating the two. I'm speaking of things like Coleman Hawkins small group stuff, the Red Norvo date with Bird and Diz, some of the things on the HRS label, etc.

Bad news. What a great player Carl Fontana was ! RIP.

I read a bunch of Phillip K Dick's work about 10 or so years ago and really enjoyed them. The title's I remember are SOLAR LOTTERY, DO ANDROIDS DREAM, although I must have read another two at least. They were all good.

Wild Bill Davis and Bill Doggett were using Hammonds (I'm going by sound and photos I've seen). Both of these guys played a pre- Jimmy style that (imho) didn't have the speed or bebop lines that Jimmy bought to the table, although both guys were fine musicians with plenty of chops - just different chops. I think Wild Bill primarily worked in a trio setting with guitar and drums and Bill Doggett had a quartet with Tenor added. Doggett could get plenty greasy and his stuff was marketed by King records as R&B or Rock and Roll more so than Jazz.

Prior to the B3 I know there was a B2 (seriously) and from that I would assume there was a B1. This sounds like we're talking about vitamins. I'v also seen C3 Hammonds which are B3 like but with panels on the sides instead of the leg posts. Possibly they had self contained speakers - I'm not sure. I think one reason the B series was popular with jazz guys is that the setup and registrations allowed the use of the left hand for playing basslines. The M series Hammonds were smaller and did not lend themselves to the use of the left hand for playing bass lines. Some of the pre- Jimmy players were Fats Waller, Count Basie, Wild Bill Davis, Bill Doggett. Recently wkcr even played some 1936 broadcasts of Jelly Roll Morton playing organ - and he sounded great. Anybody know if those are commercially available?

I love Stride Piano. When those guys hit a groove they LOCKED in and it rocked like crazy. All the guys mentioned above were great. I like the Fats piano solos that were available on a 2 cd set from RCA (or on an earlier 2 lp set). There was a terrific lp by Hank Duncan called HOT PIANO on Grand Ball records that is very obscure. It's great! Hank is ROCK SOLID. If you can find the Jazztone Tony Parenti lp with Hank on it called Happy Jazz (aka Jazz, That's All) Hank sounds great on this also. The Willie The Lion Commodore stuff or the "Memoirs" on RCA. Or anything else you can find. There's a good STRIDIN' JOE TURNER cd on Jazzology. Also - Don't forget Dick Wellstood. He had Stride down. He's close to the top of the list for my money. The two disc set that is on Arbors is a terrific example - or the Chiarasuro release available. Both releases are recorded live at a gig. Same goes for Don Ewell. He shouldn't be overlooked. He could strid with the best of them. (edit added) He could STRIDE too! Also - Monk's take on stride shouldn't be overlooked (nothing Monk did should be overlooked). I see his solo work as HIS kind of stride.