Harold_Z

Well...I had a chance to listen to the first tune. I am absolutely postitively almost convinced that the tenor player might be either Frank Trambauer or Tim Berne.

I made the same mistake in my initial post. B)

It's Barbara George.

UH-HUH - and I know that you know that I know.

Helicon?

Brad Gowans, at some point later in his career, actually invented a combination instrument that could be played simoultaneously as a valve or slide trombone. How this worked is explained pretty well in Dick Sudhalter's LOST CHORDS, in the chapter on Brad. It was pretty ingenious and any of you guys that have Eddie Condon's Decca cd can hear it on FAREWELL BLUES. It's also on the corresponding CLASSICS cd.

WOW! This reminds me of back in the day when I was working music full time (no day slave to hassle me) and I'd be hangin' with the cats and somebody'd say "YOU GOTTA HEAR THIS!!" and put something on. Jim, your batting ONE THOUSAND! I dug EVERYTHING on here. As a matter of fact I'M GETTIN'HIGH LISTENING! I went thru both discs once so I may be back later on in this thread with more to say. These are my first impressions. Disc One: 1 - The out of tempo piano intro manages to be Monkish and Bixish at the same time (HEY! That's my take.) The tenor sounds great! 2 - Very exotic! Don't know who or what but I dig it!. I guess it's ALMOST GOOD! 3 - Don't know who. Thoroughly enjoyable up blues. 4 - BLUES GROOVE - Chart reminds me of Q. Trumpet of Clark Terry (but not him). 5 - JB. Gotta get this. I mean I dug JB's things like "Prisoner Of Love" and this is right there with it. The guy really COULD sing his F*****' ASS off. 6 - Nice. Gloria Lynne? 7 - Wild guess. Steve Lacy? I haven't heard that much by him -but maybe? 8 - SECRET LOVE by ...who? Don Patterson? I dig the Fender - the guy is swingin' and he's old school in so much as it sounds like flatwounds on a Fender. The tenor reminds me of Lockjaw but I'm not sure. 9 - CT. 10 - Know it - Love it. 11 - Know it - Love it. 12 - Fits right in with tr 11. Don't know who - I dig it. 13 - CONFIRMATION like changes. Lestorian tenor - Zoot? Really guessing but could this be Woody's band? 14 - ALMOST LIKE FALLING IN LOVE. Getz? 50s? 15 - FINE AND DANDY - Hamp and a STRONG pianist! DISC TWO: 1 - Outside then Inside (just to show you they can do it). Groovin' when the piano comes in and they (intentionally) speed up. 2 - Bone and alto in front. Don't know who. AGAIN - I like it. 3 - Know it - Love it. 4 - Bass player is beautiful. I'm assuming he's overdubbed. I'd like to get this. Really I have no idea who it is but I LOVE IT - the drummer's pocket is laid back JUST ENOUGH! 5 - AT THE JAZZ BAND BALL. Love it. I know the tune - it's a "dixieland warhorse" and I know it's Pee Wee, Bud and I think Buck and Marshall Brown (it's a valve bone). That line up would probably make it George Wein related. ...So my (educated) guess is it's some kind of Newport All Stars line up. 6 - Monkish head (but not Monk) 7 - Bebop head, but "out". 8 - Basie w. Lester. Don't know what. 9 - No idea who. Dug it. 10 - PERCY MAYFIELD???? IS THIS THE NEW RHINO ONE? Gotta get it. 11 - No Idea. It held my interest all the way through. Tenor Player dug his Jr Walker records. So that's it. Those are my first impressions. I really want to say again..NO DUDS HERE. This is all of high interest to me.

I did some gigs with Eddie Cacavelli some years back - it's been awhile. Good drummer. DEEP - Yeah..Tony Inzalaco was from Lodi or Garfield. A lot of the local cats know him - Louis and Lenny for sure. Johnny Dentz is another cat that those guys gigged with way back in the day.

DEEP and Chris..glad you guys are talking again and everybody's here and posting.

I write on the discs. Use a SHARPIE - almost anything else will ruin the disc.

Just to clarify my post - this is a comment on marketing not musicianship. Rock stars are thinking of satisfying the masses and filling stadiums. IF Carlos Santana wants to do ALS, he's going to make it work for his fans. That's not meant as a criticism. Carlos' playing doesn't bother me at all - I like him. I think he's a good melodic improvisor and I think he brings a jazz attitude to his music in the sense that he is improvising and trying to get off and he has his own sound. If he falls back on his bag of licks at times....well..he's not the only one and a certain amount of that can be attributed to giving his public what it expects.

I think the compiler should make all the decisions. One of the reasons for these tests is to hopefuly expose people to music they would not otherwise be exposed to and at times JAZZ is in the eye the beholder. Didn't Duke Ellington say something to the effect that he didn't want to be held prisoner by the word jazz? My disc hasn't arrived yet, but I can tell you this - I'm thoroughly looking forward to it and if it there are things on it that I don't dig ...well, it's like this... the guy that compiled it chose things for a reason- if he put something on here there is a sound musical reason for it to be here - and, in some way that may not be obvious at first hearing to some of us, demonstrates the continuum that includes Jazz and large parts of American Pop, Gospel, R&B, Rock, you name it. So if it's here and I don't dig it, I'm going to listen again and I'm going to talk about it here - and so is the guy that put it together. I think that's what this is ALL about.

Hi Chris...I'm glad to see you here also.

Not sure, but I think Larry Lucie IS still alive.

No small time thinking there....this guy's a ROCK STAR ! It's about SPECTACLE...not music.

My wife and I have been watching from the first episode. We both like it and if we're out we tape it. Good show.

Catesta - THANKS ! - THAT and about a gallon of espresso and I'm in heaven.

Catesta - Those Cannoli look good. Where's the Sfoglitelle and Pasta Chote?

Yeah Lon, he's killin' on ALLIGATOR BOOGALOO. I heard the Prestige thinks when they came out - and the didn't kill me then. Kinda like Purdie's Prestige stuff. I wouldn't mind giving it another listen to see if I react the same.

Yeah...that is the big question..I'm sure they don't have access to the original metal parts- so I guess they're limited to dubs, 78s, and digital cloning.

...And I'm with Chuck and Lon. The RCA box sounds a lot better tham the EARLY ELLINGTON RCA CD that came out in the late 80s. I think it's the best I've heard and it beats the RCA vinyl - which was consistently excellent on vintage material.

Jim R said...>>I was a little confused about these labels, so I did a search. FWIW, the label I referred to- "Il Grande Del Jazz" (with the black covers) is actually spelled "I Grandi Del Jazz<< Thanks for clarifying that Jim, I was confused about the same thing. I have a few of those with the black covers and they're excellent. Europa released the Otis Spann Candid recordings (they condensed two lps into one), and a lot of their catalogue was also available on cassette. Some of the vinyl I came across was not the greatest - sometimes records would skip right out of the package, but at the price (I usually saw these for 99 cents or $1.99 tops).

I've heard maybe 10 or so discs out of the RCA box and I think they sound great. As Lon said - this is stuff that you want in the best sound you can get because it is SOOO good. I have it a lot of it in various issues, including some great sounding RCA lps from the 50s, but I really think this RCA box sounds the best of what I've heard. OTOH -what I've heard of Proper issues does not come up to this standard (I haven't heard the Duke box). Yes, if it's great the music comes first, but - believe me - sound matters and a bad remaster can lose a lot of the music and make a performance that may turn you on leave you cold.

Melodica? Yeah...that's it. He hooked up a rubber tube to it's mouthpiece so he could place it on a desk or table in front of him, and with pencil and manuscript, he'd write.

My top 3 from that era would have to become a top 4. I dug Jimmy Smith, Brother Jack, Larry Young, and Don Patterson. All the rest came after these 4 in my book, although I certainly enjoyed the playing of all the guys mentioned. B3-er makes a good point about Mcduff's writing and arranging skills. McDuff had some kind of keyboard that you blow into (it had a reedy sound - like an accordian and I can NEVER remember what this thing was called) that he carried on the road with him as a tool to write with....imho he was a great writer for small organ groups with one or two horns. McDuff's organ bass was killin' too. Of the younger guys I like Larry Goldings and currently am waiting for something with Sam Yahel to arrive in the mail. I've yet to hear Bill Heid and I've been looking around for something by him. I have a hunch I'm going to dig both his and Sam Yahels playing. There's a guy in the New Jersey area named Radam Schwartz who's the real deal too. I think he did a cd for Prestige or Muse (not sure) that didn't get a lot of distribution, but the guy can play.