Jazz

The one that immediately comes to my mind is All The Pretty Horses. Anyone remember towards the end where Matt Damon makes the phone call to P. Cruz and convinces her to see him? Well, he's talking on the phone in front of one of the Mexican workers. The whole movie has been pretty serious up to this point. Matt Damon finishes the conversation then BAM - the Mexican guy starts TAP DANCING. For no apparent reason. That scene still freaks me out. Sometimes I pop that movie in and just fast forward to see the guy get down with his bad self. Anyone got any other good ones?

My gosh how could anyone hate the chairman, ol blue eyes, Frankie, the sultan of swat? Not sure about that last one. Wait, what? Oh yeah Sinatra is rad. That is all.

hehe! Hey I just spotted Loveless - MBV in there, at least they remembered to include it. The obligatory Sonic Youth album they picked was Daydream Nation though, can't say I agree with that one...

heh good point. I guess I just assumed they were listing in order of importance. Although, if they weren't listing in order of importance, they might have made a point to put the Beatles farther down. Since, you know, that's always the best album of all times on these lists. Anywho, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. B) *edited to put the quote in there. Man you guys type awfully fast around here!!

Well, if you wish you can PM me with it and see if I agree, even though I'm not sure how to use that feature, but I can figure it out! Now that's a bit uncalled for don't you think? I would literally die to defend innocent people. I guess you'll just have to take my word for it since you don't know me. I am of the opinion that expressing an unpopular, racist opinion or making lewd sexist jokes is not the same as physically harming someone, their property, or conspiring to illegally revoke their civil liberties and rights. If you want, we can continue to discuss this via PM, cause I don't want to stink up B-3er's nice board with a debate. I guess after this post everyone will pretty much know the generalities of my thought process anyways, so no need for me to post again here.

Why this list really sucks 12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis 94. Bitches Brew, Miles Davis 102. Giant Steps, John Coltrane (come on) 246. The Shape of Jazz to Come, Ornette Coleman 356. Sketches of Spain, Miles Davis 454. Getz/Gilberto, Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto Featuring Antonio Carlos Jobim And the number one reason why this list eats yak brains: 47. A Love Supreme, John Coltrane A love supreme. A Love Supreme. A LOVE SUPREME RANKS RIGHT UNDER BOB MARLEY?!?!!?? Well, at least we know that John Coltrane is officially better than Public Enemy. Thank you Rolling Stone for your obviously well thought out critical analyzation. The next time I go to pop in some Coltrane, I'll know that there are 46 other greater and more rewarding albums to listen to! Including the great and timeless Ramones by the Ramones. I wanna be sedated takes on a whole new meaning. Facetiously, Jazz

Okay, I'm gonna try to Illuminate here so bear with me. 1. I have seen no evidence of "homophobic abuse". I have not seen this person personally attack a homosexual or make threats. He has definitely made comments that could offend a homosexual, but I'm not sure if that in itself constitutes abuse. He's entitled to his opinion don't you think? Aren't bigots, racists, and whatall still entitled to their opinion and the expression thereof? What they aren't entitled to do is to trample on the civil rights and liberties of another human being. I'm by no means a legal expert, so I'll leave it up to everyone else to think about what that means. 2. This guy's nothing, people. He's just another fella that likes to imagine that he's pulling everyone's strings. I mean, he may be nice in "real life", and maybe he is this prolific drummer - I don't really know, I've never met him. I've only met his online persona which pursuades me to believe that I don't really care about any of his opinions or remarks. Why should I? I only invest that much energy into people I trust and it takes me years to get to know someone to where I feel I trust them. I'm Mexican, so what would I do if he remarked that I eat beans y tacos, you stupid beaner? Would I get offended? Pssh! Anyone who does that gets immediately dismissed in my mind. And do I take this attitude into "real life"? Sure! If someone said that to me I'd laugh right in their face, because of their stupidity. I've done it. You know what they do? Nothing, hehe. So that's what I do with Mr. Wingy. I laugh at him. Not with him, at him, because he thinks he's this big string-puller when he's just another of a million obnoxious internet guys. Long story short (too late!), continue about your business. So many of you guys are very friendly and welcoming! I'd rather spend time getting to know those kinds of people than talking about people I dislike. Hoping this made a lick of sense, Jazzypoo

Thanks for the very interesting article! I am puzzled though, I thought that anyone who is into jazz has at least heard of Ornette Coleman and knew that he was significant, but the article refers to him as "on the fringes of recognition and popular acclaim".

Tim Curry has asked me to inform you that he would be honored by the presence of James T. Cat in his humble (if somewhat morbid) skull avatar!

Geez, it's not like the guy said all Dixieland sucks and that anyone who listens to it should have his brains eaten out by a yak. Just that he doesn't listen to it. I personally have my gear stuck in the 50's - 60's right now, although that may change in the future. I'm actually reaching a point where I'm getting tired of recordings. I love the energy of live jazz but there's none to be had in my hometown. My apologies. The blanket statement was there and I responded to it. I can't get into fusion, no matter how many times I try. I do hope that the standard punishment isn't having one's brain eaten out by a yak. The first jazz that got to me was the soundtracks from films noir. Then came the totally forgettable film, "Walk On The Wild Side". I would have forgotten it, except for the Elmer Bernstein soundtrack. I liked it so much that I have every version of the title song, from Bernstein's to Brook Benton's, to Jimmy Smith's, to Earl Bostic's. That sound, "Harlem Nocturne", "Take Five" and "Swingin' Shepherd Blues" were the only jazz I listened to during what I like to call my "folk and blues phase". After a brief period of easy listening, I went to back to Blues and added a little Flamenco guitar, Edith Piaf and then, back to JAZZ in all it's glory, except for fusion. I wasn't flingin' sod at wolff, just questioning his limiting himself, which is certainly his prerogative. I believe Jazzmoose is quite correct about the llama, although I remember hearing rumors of an alternative punishment along the lines of having your leg hairs pulled with tweezers while being forced to simultaneously watch every tv show episode that has starred David Hasselhoff. I will admit to disliking smooth jazz. Anyone know the punishment for that one? Whatever it is, I sure hope it involves yaks, because I like how the word "yak" sounds when repetitively spoken. Yak yak yak. Yak Attack!!! I concur with A.B. on the driving issue. If I listen to Jazz in the car I find myself paying more attention to the meters, harmonies, and polyrhythms than my driving!

WOW guys, thanks for all the nice comments! They made my T-Day much brighter, sincerely. Thank you Rooster, for the encouragement. It's really nice to know someone considered my posts actually VALUABLE! I'll try and peek my head in here a little more often for a while, for sure. AfricaBrass don't underestimate your cat-head-power! Your latest incarnation of James T. Cat has had me rolling in laughter for a while now.

Wow, somebody remembers me! Well, not to hijack the thread, but I just had to make a few changes to my life and I've been pretty occupied with that - finding a new direction after my dreams of being a jazz musician died. I also felt that I really never had much to offer in the way of adding to the numerous insights into jazz here, so I just like to read now and then. Sorry for the tangent!

You, sir, are very nice.

You'll just have to take my word for it that I'm familiar with the personalities on this board - I mostly just lurk. I'd like to say that I think that you have handled everything on this board with a fair-minded and very thoughtful attitude, B-3er, which is more than is required of you since this board is yours and you can ban who you please when you feel like it. I think that that in itself is more than commendable, and I also think this hangout is one hip joint. I won't offer any advice or any more opinions since I am not exactly a true member of this community, but I will say that I have enjoyed reading the thoughts here on either politics, jazz, or what have you. Your Friendly Neighborhood Moral Supporter, Jazzy

I see. I've seen alot of people defend you, so I thought there might be something to ya. Guess not. *edited to clearly denote the direction of this response, yo.

sure. Now you admit yours.

Say you're kind of a jerk arentcha Wingy?

Wow what a rad thread. I concur in wishing everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving!

Geez, it's not like the guy said all Dixieland sucks and that anyone who listens to it should have his brains eaten out by a yak. Just that he doesn't listen to it. I personally have my gear stuck in the 50's - 60's right now, although that may change in the future. I'm actually reaching a point where I'm getting tired of recordings. I love the energy of live jazz but there's none to be had in my hometown.

Thanks for the thread link Simon! I think I most agree with what Harold said: Amazingly, it's a viewpoint I never considered! I guess musicians should take their music where their instincts tell them to, whether it develops and extends on the blues, or whether it moves away from the blues.

I think that's definitely one good explanation for why people think music is easy. Telling anyone that you are majoring in music is a good way to get a "oh, so you're taking the easy route" response. Grrr. Man that totally sucks. It takes alot of passion for music to tough that kind of stuff out.

Favorite movies off the top of my head in no particular order. The owner of this list is entitled to change said list without warning or notice. Void where prohibited. At participating locations only. May cause loose stool. 1. Punch Drunk Love - I loved the way Sandler played this character. In my mind, this movie is just a story about a guy who needs a little love to overcome his insecurities. 2. Animal Crackers - I'm a huge Marx brothers fan, and this is probably my favorite movie by them. The scene where Harpo enters in a cape and top hat has me rolling everytime. 3. Top Hat - speaking of top hats, I really like this movie. 4. Ran - not much to say about this one except that it kicked major butt. 5. Dreams (Kurosawa) - Some parts of this really creeped me out. 6. Hudsucker Proxy - One of my fav comedies ever. "You know, for kids!" 7. Pi - Oh my gosh. Love this movie! 8. Brazil - Okay, I love this movie just as much as when I first saw it. I can watch it over and over. One of my favorite parts is where DeNiro gets attacked by the newspapers and disappears.

Okay. I had this friend a while back - a pretty talented jazz drummer - who told me that he didn't think that blues had anything left to offer jazz. I think the way he put it was something like "what else can you really do with the blues that hasn't been done?" I disagreed with him at the time, and I still do, but I was wondering what some of the people here thought. I should add that I don't know if he still feels this way or not, because I haven't talked to him in quite a while and also that he had heavily studied composition. Do the blues still have a place in the development of modern jazz, or should musicians, as my friend put it "start moving away from the blues"?

Things are pretty dry where I am too. My personal opinion is that the recording industry was the beginning of the end for those who love spontaneous and live improvised music. I think it has something to do with the apparent ease of which modern pop music is contrived. I mean, you have stuff like American Idol and situations where people who don't study (either academically or by getting tons of playing/ear experience) get these huge record contracts. I think people have just lost alot of respect for musicians in general because of it. Of course I haven't researched any of these assertions in any way, it's just an opinion I've developed from what I've observed.