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Up for air, and to see if Mr. Dorham's daughter is still reading this board? And, while we're at it, what recordings between '66 - '72 with Dorham on them are you most fond of?

Where should one start with McIntyre on Steeplechase? Any particular favorites?

Good news — Capra Black is now available (again) on disc, as a German import. Dusty Groove is currently stocking it, in addition to Cecil Payne's Zodiac. Now if only Charles Brackeen's Rhythm X would make it out as a re-reissue on disc.

Maybe I am a dreamer. I did e-mail Cuscuna about a year ago, however, regarding this very topic. He replied that he'd love to do it, and would — given the go-ahead from Universal, who owns the rights to most (if not all) of this stuff. Some of it was actually recorded at that place ... what's it called ... some studio in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey. Never heard of it.

Very exciting news. If this one can come out, perhaps the complete New York Art Quartet recordings (with the ESP aside) can come out. Note that Andrew plays curved soprano on the Chained session. There's actually a photo of him with this horn in the Wolff book. The tray insert photos from Passing Ships and Grass Roots, which are actually the same photo, are also, I'm pretty sure, from the Chained session. It will be very interesting to hear how Andrew approached the saxophone. Didn't he start off as a saxophone player? It will also be very interesting to hear Robin Kenyatta play Andrew's music. Man, I hope this one truly does come out.

Seamus Blake.

This has always been a personal favorite: West Coast Hot Carter's on alto more than clarinet here, but he sounds fine on both horns. The amazing thing to me about the Carter/Bradford session here is how strong a band this quartet was. The "rhythm" section of Bruz Freeman (Von's brother) on drums and Tom Williamson on bass has got to be one of the most savagely under-documented and under-recognized duos in the history of the music. These guys can play. This group's inevitable comparison to Ornette Coleman's quartet seems both fair and unfair. Sure, these guys knew (and recorded with) Ornette, but they were also making their own music, which was particularly distinctive when Carter picked up the clarinet. There's also a fine dedication album to Carter by François Houle: In the Vernacular Some beautiful music here, including a previously unrecorded Carter composition.

Cuscuna, in an e-mail, said: "2005." This one, along with The Big Beat. I tried to push Tippin' the Scales, with the King cover, but no response on that one. He also made some mention about possibly reissuing Elmo Hope's Blue Note stuff as an RVG. Now that would be great!

... which was last night! I've seen Douglas once before, but this show seemed an unusually inspired outing. The audience seemed strangely subdued, but this didn't seem to bother the band. One thing above all — Douglas's chops are getting better and better. For those that think he rides too heavily on his use of nuance and "feeling," watch out. Last night he exhibited all sorts of playing: some clearly articulated pyrotechnic 16th note runs, some Rex Stewart smearing, and that gorgeous sound. He also seemed to be in a damn good mood: "You know what I love about Eugene? That green Victorian house on the hillside. Have you been to it?" That struck me as hilarious. ... and all in a Wayne Shorter thread!

Is it "Capricorian" or Capricornian? Finally, my favorite Rivers Blue Note on disc! The Mosaic version of this album is like going to the dentist. Some of Freddie Hubbard's most inspired playing in my book. Just listened to the Young session on the Mosaic yesterday. Will probably make the "upgrade" on that one — a fine date, with Eddie Gale more than making up for any of the stock licks Spaulding throws out there. Nice to see a change from the usual Morgan and Mobley picks.

Blue Spirits is a wonderful album, and probably the first to pick up of the two. The session with Joe Henderson is especially fine. Also, the bonus track "The Melting Pot," with Hosea Taylor on alto saxophone (let's see if that discographical error gets corrected this time around), is perhaps the best track on the disc. Very inspired playing there.

I know another trumpet player who would fit into that line above ... Dick Collins! Two fine albums for RCA. Haven't heard that Prestige comp yet.

Jeff, Returned the PM. Thanks! Laton Bluerein, What other TOCJ's were in that series? Do you happen to have a list? Hard to believe that Fischer title has been floating around (though in scant numbers, I'm sure) all these years. That geocities link above has some other interesting titles, too — namely TKCB 70387:

Was this ever issued on compact disc? On a random search, I found a listing for it here.

I'm calling (pretty much out of fun) the Japanese edition that you have the "definitive" edition, though I've never actually heard that version, simply based on my positive experience with other discs from that (Japanese AMCY Atlantic) series — most notably the eponymous Warne Marsh album. Sounds amazing. (This series also contains what I consider to be the best sounding version of Giant Steps, outside of original vinyl.) I don't think Koch reissued the Fruscella, but I would love to be wrong! The only other reissue of this album that I know of (and the one I've heard) is the European edition, reissued in a digipack. Jack Millman, Tony Fruscella, Phil Sunkel. Who will be discussed next? And what saxophonists would most closely allign with these trumpet players?

Tony, you're in for a huge treat. To respond to your question first — I actually don't think there's too much similarity between 1961 and Free Fall, as the latter seems to intentionally abandon almost all of the sonorities the former created. Both are wonderful, but, at least for me, relatively separate sound worlds. Or, to put it another way, Free Fall is one step further down the evolutionary path Giuffre's music was taking at the time. If only this band had had the financial/commercial success it needed to stay together! When I first heard Fusion and Thesis ("1961"), these were the only albums I listened to for about two months. Dig in and enjoy! Then, of course, you'll want the recent two-fer on hat. My how I wish Giuffre's two subsequent 60's trios (with Don Friedman and Barre Phillips, then with Richard Davis and Joe Chambers) had been locked up in a studio, forced to record hours and hours of music.

The Vogue/Blue Note session is available on compact disc, albeit for a hefty price here.

Wonderful! I'm very patient. Strange, I was just listening to a bit of Fruscella before I made this Sunkel post. I'm still looking for the "definitive" edition (AMCY 1184) of Tony Fruscella, but I'm fairly certain it's out-of-print. That album is a gem. It seems so many of the artists I'm currently interested in (George Russell, Hal McKusick, Manny Albam, et al.) are on Universal's "do not reissue in order to cause fans pain" list. I hold out hope for the Japanese market though! In the mean time, any more words on Sunkel are welcome. Or, for that matter, those Decca Jazz Studio / Jazz Lab recordings! I'm exploring this area of the music with a lot of enthusiasm lately.

Sunkel, going by AMG, only made two albums — both on ABC Paramount. I've heard neither, but would really like to read/hear more about them. Were they ever issued on compact disc at any time? I would gladly reimburse/compensate/reciprocate to hear this long out-of-print music burned onto disc.

Yes, I do hear this, but for some reason I always hear "Swing Spring" as using "pedal point" harmony rather than "modal" writing, though the two might not really be all that different. Maybe someone more musically versed could explain.

Wait! I'd order this one directly from Hiroshi Tanno or Ray Mizutani. Cecil Taylor: Live at The Cafe Montmartre (TKCB 70310) 2 CD's. Same thing as "Nefertiti" — and this edition has great remastering, along with all the alternates.

General rule of thumb: keep the current thread going! What the heck if it takes lots of wild turns and U-turns (even though I sometimes do feel like I'm derailing another poster's thread). But, after all, keep in mind — when considering posting a new topic — those two words: Comical Rodent. How did it achieve its colossal stature on this very board? Just imagine ( ) if the lowly "Jack Millman" thread were to build up to the skyscraper proportions that are Brötzmann and Hanno — all the while discussing obscure West Coast stuff! Only 1,783 more posts more to go in this thread! C'mon fellas!

"Jazz Workshop," "Jazz Studio" and "Jazz Lab"? Yes, here's the Cohn "Jazz Workshop" album: Haven't heard it, but I did at one time own the Byers "Jazz Workshop" album ... and sold it! Probably shouldn't have, but alas. Had a memorable Phil Woods (on clarinet) solo, if memory serves.

Damn, you've got me jones-ing to hear these! I wonder when Universal will get around to reissuing these "Jazz Studio" dates. Ah, probably 2005. Yeah, that's right, just around the corner, a handful of months. (At least, in consolation, I can play the few RCA Joe Newman albums I have! )

Wow, that would be a very interesting Mosaic. I wonder if the idea has ever crossed Cuscuna's mind. Even a Mosaic Select, if we're talking only 4 discs, would be great. Tell us more, Garth and Guy. I know all those musicians except David Amram. And ... George Barrow led one of these sessions? On tenor? I only know Barrow through sideman work. Have any of these sessions, outside of the Millman, been reissued on disc? (By Fresh Sounds, I'm guessing?) It never ceases to amaze me that there's always some hidden nook in the jazz world to explore.