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I just ordered this and I'm eagerly awaiting it. Looks like a pretty eclectic session...the combination of Jaki Byard and Ray Nance is too interesting to pass up. Anyway, I love Ray Nance, for me he personifies jazz violin. Soulful, swinging, and personal.

'Crescent' and 'Live at Birdland' are two I was most interested in and already I can see problems going the box route. Thanks for the feedback, I'll just go with the individual CDs, probably starting with Crescent.

I'd like to start exploring Coltrane's impulse recordings--I only have ALS and the Africa Brass sessions. I'm wondering if the best way to go would be to acquire the complete quartet box or the individual CDs instead. The Impulse discography of Trane is confusing (to me at least). Verve has sliced this salami in so many ways I can't figure out sometimes whether a CD is a compilation or a straight reissue. So, the 'complete box' seems to be the most direct route, but then would I be missing out on material from the individual CDs that I would regret missing?

Thanks for recomending this. It arrived last week and it lives up to the superlatives. One of the things that impressed me the most is how good DeFrancesco is at comping behind the band. It's a great band, btw.

Turrentine Disc IV. If pressed I think the Turrentine set might be the one Mosaic I'd take to the proverbial deserted island

I concur with this 100%. If you're conditioned to look for a quick profit, no jazz artist is going to produce 'acceptable' sales. With that mentality, the suit would be better suited for the bubble gum division of the muzak industry. Jazz requires long term vision. If it's 1950 and your only concern is the bottom line for 1951, then signing Phil Harris over Dizzy Gillespie is the right move. Jazz CEOs looking for Phil Harris are in the wrong line of bidness. And they're going to end up saying something insulting to jazz artists, like 'jazz isn't exciting' and 'it will never sell'

This analysis makes so much sense to me! It opens up for me a completely new way of seeing the link between Pres and modern jazz.

I was recently listening to the radio at work (well, the pandora music site) and I heard something that really caught my attention...something sounding familiar but unique. I opened the screen and it was a song from this CD. The first time I had ever heard anything from Elmo Hope...really wonderful stuff. I'm looking forward to picking up the trio/quintet CD.

Right. The guy's entitled to his opinion about jazz. But what really annoys me is that somebody who apparently doesn't care enough to seek out the good stuff is the CEO of Verve. It's like having Dick Cheny in charge of Amnesty International. isnt verve a dinosaur? isnt the music business changing? wont performers be marketing and controlling their own product on the web? i would expect that certain artists might be releasing new concerts or performances even monthly. i would like to think that, if people heard some of the incredible musicians playing today, they would respond favorably. getting jazz into movies and sporting events would seem to be sensible marketing. Verve's a dinosaur, but one with lots of money and potential influence.

According to Alan's jazzmatazz site, "Why Am I Treated So Bad" s scheduled to be released on May 16.

The Bobby Watson (Horizon Reassembled) and Ben Allison (Nuclear Tiger) are probably two of my favorite new releases over the past few years. I guess the only complaint I have about the label is that they don't put out enough material.

Right. The guy's entitled to his opinion about jazz. But what really annoys me is that somebody who apparently doesn't care enough to seek out the good stuff is the CEO of Verve. It's like having Dick Cheny in charge of Amnesty International.

I came across this quote in the May issue of Jazz Times and thought it was kind of bizarre. From Ron Goldstein, CEO of Verve: "I realized three or four years ago that if we stuck with jazz, we would be out of business. I just knew it. It's not that we want to be out of the jazz business. It's just that there is nothing that is coming along that is exciting. There was a blip with Joshua Redman, Nicholas Payton, Christian Mcbride 10 years ago, but it seemed to dry up very quickly" An odd statment, I think. First, nothing against these guys, but is the mid 90s output of Redman et al. the standard by which jazz today should be measured? And it's failing to meet that standard?? What strikes me as odd (even perverse) is that the CEO of Verve, with all of its resources and potential influence, seems so disinterested and out of touch with jazz. "nothing is coming along that is exciting"

With all the love this CD is getting, it's pretty hard to resist. I just ordered it this morning. It's good to see a new release generating some buzz.

Does anyone know if these are limited to a specific number of copies like the sets? Or is the productin run more open ended?

Thanks for the reminder! I pulled out the 3CD set tonight and cued up 'Moonglow'--wonderful. I had forgotten, incidentally, how good the sound is, generally, on the RCA set. Krupa's bass drum comes through very clearly.

thanks--pm returned.

I'm selling the Complete Teagarden Roulette sessions. The set is slightly used, and like new. It's number 714/5,000. I'm asking 59.00 for it (price INCLUDES first class shipping via the US Postal service). U.S. only please (sorry). Check or money order. If interested send a pm. Thanks.

Me too! Big thumbs up for all the records mentioned. The stuff with Russell & Hawkins is desert island material! Another one I like a lot is "Feeling Good" on Columbia, recorded right near the end of Allen's life. The dufus at AMG dumps on this record, but I'm sorry, he's wrong! Red's singing and playing on this are marvelous. Also, for late Red, I'd recommend "Mr. Allen" on Prestige, reissued as "The Henry Allen Memorial Album". To my knowledge, neither of these has been on CD, but they are worth tracking down on vinyl. I'd like to hear the Columbia album, maybe Mosaic will issue it in their 'singles' series. The 1957 session with Hawkins on RCA is way overdue for a remastering--it's such a fabuous session, but it's so flat-sounding, all the worst characteristics of '80s CD technology. I also love Red Allen's playing with Kid Ory on the Verve sessions in the 50s. I've got the twofer with Newman that Chuck mentioned. I don't listen to it much, not sure why. It's an odd pairing, I'm not sure why they matched up the Joe Newman CD with the Allen. Red Allen is so unique and free. With those weird buzz tones and smears, and the crazy phrasing, he's one of a kind.

This was my experience too, about a year or two ago. I've never ordered from them since. Nothing annoys me more than ordering something supposedly in stock, only to wait, wait, wait...only to finally learn that someone simply didn't update the website

I'm curious if anyone has had the opportunity to hear this yet. A couple of tracks are available here, and they sound intriguing (i've really been digging the sound of the fender lately, for some reason) meaningandmystery The only CD I have of Douglas is the chamber jazz stuff ("Charms...' with the accordian), and it leaves me really cold. The quintet though, with Clarence Penn, looks a lot more interesting.

This is spot on. Why is it that we hash this whole topic over every few months? We see the same shit every time. To expect another Marvin Gaye is like waiting for the next Bird. It ain't gonna happen. Culture evolves, as does the musical continuum. Remember Lincoln Logs? Man they don't make toys like they used to... Culture evolves, but that doesn't mean it progresses. I'm not pining for the past, but I'm sure not gonna say that 21st century America, from a cultural standpoint, has progressed from where it was 30 years ago. I'm hoping for a way forward.

This is where he lost me. Guy Actually, this is the part that makes the most sense to me. I'm not saying melody and harmony are absent from rap (I'm not familiar enough with the genre to catch the nuances, if they're there)--but, all I hear in rap is headache-inducing rhythm. Hard for me to find anything spiritual or transcendent & those are the qualities I'm looking for. OTOH I hear nothing but spirit when I hear Same Cooke. Or Marvin Gaye etc. Of course, as Martin Williams once said, when people hear jazz, they ask "where's the melody?".

How about 'Take Ten' with Jim Hall and Paul Desmond? A nice mix of Bossa stuff plus standards

I sent an e-mail to them a few days ago asking that they do some sort of tribute to Jackie Mac. The next afternoon I happened to catch a Ben Sidran interview with JM on XM that they apparently played as a tribute. I'm not suggesting there's a connection between my e-mail and airing the interview, but I am suggesting you directly e-mail them. If enough people complain... Anyway, I agree, one specially aired interview isn't enough by any stretch.