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Why?

Definitely Jean Carn singing. I'll see if I can find the tune on the Dough & Jean Carn CD's over the weekend if I get a chance. Those Carn CD's on Black Jazz are four great CD's by the way. I really want to know what that tune is!

Yep. No need to buy cassettes by the case any more. Hell, no real need to buy blanks by the spindle either.

In all seriousness, I think they'd have a laptop and would know how to use it. Of course, the realm of in-some-form-digital musical production is still in its infancy, contrasted to Trane's world of wholly analog music-making being quite advanced (to the point of almost having completed it's true "evolution"), so we're sort of comparing apples to pears here...but still, I think that's your answer. Lots of peoples not gonna want to hear that, or even conceive of that, but there it is anyway.

You mean the Bread guy? Time to vacate, then!

If that...

Ornette music w/o Trane I can imagine...post-Ayler...not so sure...maybe, maybe not. The whole question of "what if", though, is really kind of, uh...feigned potency in the face of true impotency. I mena, what if Christopher Columbus had been born a dog? What if Alexander The Great had discovered electricity? What if? What if? What if? What might have happened if? I mean, c'mon...there's real things that have happened, still need to be dealt with, haven't been (not particularly), and don't show any signs of going to be dealt with. Like - after all and everything, do we really need "tunes" any more? As one of many options, yeah, great things, sometimes. But lord have mercy, if that's all we've learned after all these years, if all we can do is still play little ditties with recurrent structures that smile, sigh, or cry in predicted intervals, if we go there not just because we want to , but because that's all we volunteer to have at our mental, emotional, and spiritual disposal, then... Let's play this one, then - what if the 20th Century had never happened? Yeah, let's play that one.

Yeah, how would Coltrane make post-Coltrane music in a world where he had never existed until it was time to do that?

Was he seasick at the time?

A lot of great music happened in that "void," for sure (and I'm not referring completely to the BYG/expatriate axis). Would the AACM or the lofts have become what they are/were if Coltrane were around? Probably not. And for that, we should be thankful. Coltrane's death "made room" on the overall landscape, room that was put to good use and might not otherwise have been there. OTOH, Louis Armstrong stayed alive until 1970, Ellington until 1974. Anybody really think that if they had both died in, say, 1950, that Trane wouldn't have more or less gone where he went anyway? What if Bix would have lived? What if Lester Young would've been sober? What if Bird would've joined the Army? What if Charlie Christian had played violin? After a while, it's time to make sense of what did happen, not try to figure how how what happened might not have happened "if" and/or ""if only". I'll say it again - what happened after Trane died was very much inspired by him, but was not things that he himself would likely have fit into particularly well. It was a good time to go, and as fate would have it, he went.

Or, he could have stayed dead and not made the trip.

It has now become written/spoken/official.

Purple label here too. Pulled it out of a treasure City cutout bin for about a buck 9-tee 9.

Trane got lucky that way.

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"Where was he going?" is probably not the right question. "Had he already been there" is more like it, and with Interstellar Space, I think the answer is a pretty obvious "yes, he had been". I mean, that's the whole thing right there, everything he had learned about life and music (if you care to make that distinction in this case) came together, end of story. Stellar Regions, well...historically it's invaluable, but...and Expression (the tenor pieces, anyway) is like beautiful exit music at a funeral, which is essentially what it is. After Interstellar Space, there was really no place left for "John Coltrane" to go musically forward that would still let him be "John Coltrane". Plenty of relevant, innovative and important things happened after he passed, but can you even begin to imagine Trane in any of them? I can't. And if something was going to happen, but didn't then...what difference does it make, ultimately? When peoples need to stay alive, they either find it or die trying. So if something really needed to happen....it probably did. Just my opinion of course, but I'm adamant in it.

I've had it since about 1975 and I've never even once though about hating it. It's got VAN GELDER in the dead wax ya' know...

Give it away. Give it all away. For the children!!!

Enough drama. Somebody who cares just create a poll, eh?

Looks like there needs to be a legislation to determine this mater of taste. It's a serious matter, and if there's not a "general consensus" on record, then there needs to be. So, somebody either create a poll or have Jim directly input the final answer, ok? Might have been a more tasteful way to have broached the subject, however.

That's really good news then!

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Kenny G used to play tenor...played it a lot with with Lorber (he was a lot less annoying then...I don't have a reflexive dislike for Jeff Lorber's work, nor a predisposition to like it either, but of his entire "ilk" of the time, his was a more obviously "jazz-based" music than anybody's, and Mr. Gorelick played it shallowly but pleasantly, which is 50% better that what he now does...but oh well about that) & on his very earliest, pre-"stardom" records. Knew about Ron with Gil, not with Dizzy.