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8, I think...I'll check when I get home.

Relative to their own work, compared to what came before and after, I think so, yeah. And understandably so. They were tired. Who wouldn't be?

The rock era of 1964-1970(?) was due mainly to the fact that the industry didn't have a clue what the kids were up to and didn't dare try to control for fear of mssing out on the next big thing. For all the off-the-wall brilliance that found its way onto way during those years, there's stories to be be told of innumerable quantities of pure nothing that sat beside it on store shelves. It seemed like damn near anything and everybody could get some kind of a deal with somebody. And why not? People who had careers befre Beatlemania, like the Beach boys, fell prey to the old ways. Nut post-Beatlemania, for a few years, there were no rules. Now The Beatles did hit a lull going in 1965. Beatlemania was over, the singles came out one at a time, other bands & styles were peeping up, but...The Beatles had made such a huge impact here - and across the world - in 1964 that they became the de facto face of the "youth revolution", which was what the industry was trying to get a grip on. So whatever the Beatles did, it was ok. So that means that a mediocre album like Beatles For Sale could be turned into two less than stellar albums in the states, a movie that was ok but nowhere near the masterpiece its predecessor was could be allowed a free pass, and becuase they kept putting out some really great singles and becuase youth all over the world were riding the still-cresting wave that Beatlmania had triggered, 1965 turned out ok for The Beatles. 1966 could have been the year they lost it, but instead, they bumped it up a notch or two, as did the world. And itr wasn't just rock either...I've heard it posited that The Beatles and the Coltrane quartet were riding parallel paths in paralle dimensions. Kinda out there in one way, but not in another...

And so it is....8 PM - 6 AM, obviously. That's nuts enough.

It's ok, you can be there while the rest of us are here. When you get tired, just say the world.

That's just as a recording band. Let's not forget that by 1962 they were already well on their way to becoming a well-seasoned club band, with all the seasoning and appreciation of nuance that either brings to the for or else totally numbs among those who get there. Reminds me of a club I went to in Birmingham, Alabama...I was playing the Hilton in a "show band", hours ran from 9-1. Across the alley was a basement club that had a live band all night. Their hours? 8 PM - 6 PM. Yeah, a 10 hour gig (with, I'm told, an hour off for dinner). These guys must've known every pop song imaginable...somebody yelled out "Play me some Tams!!!" Well hell, all I knew by the Tams was "What Kind Of Fool Do You Think I Am?" These mutherphukkers did 20 minutes of Tams material w/o missing a beat. The Beatles had developed a similar "encyclopedic" sense of their musical world, and unlike the band in Birmingham (as far as I could tell) they had three guys who had the impulse to take it all in and, not just put it back out, but re-form it and put it back out. I'm of the mind that they had the advantage of being "veterans" in the real world before they were seen as "rookies" in the marketplace. All I'm saying is that, yeah, the arc was incredible, but it's not like they were starting from scratch in 1962. That's just when the arc went public. It had begun long before that.

Now I'm here, which means you're there. How's it goin'?

I'm not here. If I was here, you'd be there, and you're not, you're here. Adapt or die.

Same song, differnt show:

Welcome to The Wonderful World Of Prime Brian Wilson!

Download what you can't buy (or realistically hope to ever be able to buy) from Mosaic, Nessa, and a few others. Live a good life and put money where it can do the most good for those about whom you really care. That, and get a gig as a supervisor at an EMI pressing plant.

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I like Dale Fielder's work well enough, and god knows I love Hank Mobley, but...no. In any number of ways, no.

Chicago roots, yes (although I've been told by esteemed member Ed Rhodes - who was definitely there - that I overstate the degree, so in deference to somebody whose opinion I fully respect, let's say some Chicago roots, and let me throw in my still-held opinion that Charles Stepney was the "crystallizing element" for that band), but direct, connect-the-dots AACM roots...not among the key figures, but....both Henry Threadgill & Roscoe Mitchell openly express their admiration for Don Myrick: http://www.jayepurplewolf.com/EARTHWINDFIR...henixhorns.html Is this site accurate in stating that Myrick was a founding member of the AACM?

Now, "self, taut", that's another matter entirely...

Besides, the " the teenage idol/teenage angst thing" is not what makes this a cool record, at least not in my estimation.

Yeah, but emotionally he was a hot LA rock/pop session musician doing some tours with the Beach Boys. You do the math.

Outcome?

For real, Vista on a new system w/all new software is not at all unpleasant. Quite the opposite, actually. Office 2007 is a treat too. I've had no backwards compatibility issues with files themselves, and haven't even tried to use any software. But then, I don't usually do that anyway. Seems like there's always something for any new OS that will do it there as well as the old stuff did for its OS, at least for what I've needed over the years. But as an "upgrade" on top of a previous installation with older software? Ooooohhhh....yours is but one of many unhappy endings to that story.... Honestly, I got vista on my new machine because Dell was charging significantly more to put XP on, plus they were aiming that gambit mainly at gamers, of which I am not one. But I have been quite happy with it. The ease w/which I was disabel to stop that nasty virus was the coup de grace for me. Nasty ass malware totally taking over your system? AV protection totally disabled? No problem - just find the new folder in the start menu & drag it to the Recycle Bin (pretty Mac-like too, I guess, which is why I think I'll end up with a Mac when I get the urge to just totally "let go" of my computer "comfort zone", I think they got the "if it seems logical, do it" thing pretty much down to an art-science)! The online directions for removing that bug from an XP system were considerably more complicated (but still useful for final cleanup). I really liked XP. But I like Vista more, at least coming to it as I have.

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You better be ready to buy a Mac next time then...

YEAH!

Michael, however, took note of where they went wrong and vowed not to make the same mistakes himself.

You've never smelled really good burning poo.