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Would not Red Menace view Siberia as a similar opportunity?

I daresay that there's a parallel between how we approach one thing we love - music - with how we approach another - our relationships with our spouse/partner. If you can "get comfortable" - or keep the fire burning - with one, the odds of doing so with the other rise greatly, I think. And let's not go there as to using "collecting" as a transference &/or avoidance mechanisms when it comes to relationships. Real passion will be obvious too all. Faded passion, or faked passion, will be obvious to all but the perpetrator.

Definitely not, but watching Gordon spank Nigella with that spoon (or vice-versa...), well....can you say "Pay-Per-View"

When I discovered the music of Monday Michiru, it got me listening - excitedly listening, with a sense of genuine "discovery" that I had lost a loooooong time ago - to a lot of other types of music. It was then I realized just how much I had been buying music to have (as evidenced by the backlog) rather than music to hear. This became irrevocably apparent when I did my taxes and was reviewing my receipts. My buying habits demonstrably & dramatically shifted, and as a result, so did the # of things I could say that I had actually listened to & absorbed upon receipt. That's what it comes down to - are we gathering music we want/need to hear right now, or music we want/need to have, to listen to "at some point"? "Collecting" comes with all levels of intensity, intent, and probably most importantly, focus. Somebody who's got the bug for Hank Mobley and just has to hear it, so when they find something/anything/evrything w/Hank on it they rush right home & play that sucker right away, over and over, until they know it is functioning from a subtle but fundamentally different motivation than somebody who sees Hank's name on a date and says, "Oh look, Hank's on this one, I better pick it up then" and then goes hom and waits a few hours/days/weeks/etc to get to it. Really, save your reciepts for a year (or less, I guess) and then get them out, put then in order, and review them. Reliving the "story" behind each purchase can tell you all you need to know if you can be honest with yourself.

Details, please. We have absolutely no problems watching Nigella here. :wub: :wub:

Ok, but let me warn you - he curses! :o :o

A 12 half-step situation if you want your answer in black & white...

That's one of those concepts that makes less & less sense the longer you think about it....

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The one I saw today was a place in Liverpool called Morgan's(?) ran by a 40-ish MILF-y mom & her two early/mid-20-ish DILF-y daughters. Only one daughter had a clue, as did only one person in the kitchen (& it wasn't the head chef....). There's drama enough when Ramsay busts the bubble of some old eccentric retriee or some once semi-lauded chef, but this one was damn near psychotic. And yet, in the end, they all survived. I just wonder what he had to do off-camera to get them all in line...

I've never even seen Hells Kitchen. Didn't know about it until today. I'm out of touch. Chris, do you get BBC America in NYC? I really think you'd like this show. It's the way that all/most of us would like to talk at our job when we know what's fucked up but "management" is in a terminal case of cranius rectus. I mean, this cat just comes in and lays it down, pulls no punches, and spares no feelings. And yet, as noted above, he cares.

Been watching it on BBC America, and it's coming to Fox in an Amerrican version (same host). LTB & I are both fans. This cat don't fuck around! Don't know how much of it is just for show, but his in-your-face style of telling it like it is is very much to my liking when the recipients act like "aw it's not THAT bad". Can't see him coming to American TV, though, not with this show. WAAAAY too many F-Bombs.

Louie Vega is a pretty interesting cat, I think. Hector Lavoe's nephew, world-class DJ/remixer/etc, very organically brings the two worlds together. Dance music (especially the best of the vintage disco - and yes, there is such a thing as "good disco") has long had a lot of Latin underpinnings, so it's really not that big of a stretch to do what Vega's been doing. Otoh, Latin music has always had a staunchly conservative side to it, so Vega's willingness to break the clave from time to time in the service of a club groove might be seen as pretty radical. But ultimately, who cares? When the results are as consistently interesting to listen to and fun to move to as what Louie Vega's been coming out with, I sure don't!

Goodness gracious...

Well allright! :tup :tup Looks like a little bit of new material & a bunch of remixes. Louie Vega remixes are almost always a treat, so nooooo problem here!

How about "Everything I Needed To Know, I Learned On Organissimo"?

George Duke Duke Jordan George Jordan

Man, you got that right. I don't know what I saw him on, perhaps Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous? He didn't work out, smoked. Really shocked to find out he was still around until recently. Wonder how come?? Pussy!er...I mean, he must have had a strong constitution. Six of one...

I betcha that's why Guy's mail got fouled up.

Well, my biggest "problem" with a lot of "these type" records isn't as much with the arrangements or concision or production or anything like that. It's with the feeling I get that the main player(s) is/are just ain't feeling it, that they're faking it, or worse, not even trying to fake it, but are just playing ready-made gestures. And that is death to me. Or sometimes I feel that the arrangements/production do get in the way, not so much because they're bad or inappropriate, but just because the player(s) aren't comfortable playing within that type structure & thise type confines. It's a seperate craft, that is, and as a result, a different art. Now, Fathead has certainly been more than at-home all sorts of contexts & at all levels of "commerciality (my god, the one chorus obligatto - not even a solo - behind Donny Hathaway on "I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know" ranks right there with Prez behind Billie, and no, I do not exaggerate), so I guess my expectations were more the former - that Fathead just came to "make a record" on these dates, and not "to play". He's done it before, doncha' know. And frankly, none of the older guys who "were there" talk about those the way they do some of his other dates form all eras/styles (I remember talking w/Roger Boykin - who is not one to give even faint praise to routine effort - about Fathead, and when I mentioned that thing w/Donny, man, I though he was gonna cream his jeans. And yes, this time I do exaggerate. But only slightly.) So, ya' know, I just kinda thoght, "ehhhhhh......" and let 'em go. But I'm heartened to hear that this is not the case with these albums, and I will be looking for this CD. Because a good Fathead side is something I'll never turn down! (and btw - I know very well the audience about which you refer. They were the parents & older siblings of a lot of my peers, friends, and bandmates in my younger days, and I got to know quite a few of them pretty well. Although actually, the parents were ususally hipper. Had a college roomate whose dad came to visit one time & noticed a Lester Young side out. Next thing I know, this cat is reliving a JATP show he saw back in the day, act by act, tune by tune. And this guy wasn't a player or nothing, he was a school teacher. But he liked his King Curits sides too, indeed he did.)

Erich Bulling. Thanks. Not a familiar name to me. I see on AMG that he's done mostly Pop work. Would it be fair to say that this album might be geared more towards a pop audience than a jazz one? Which would be ok with me, actually, because A) I often feel that Ella hits the mark more often as a "pop singer" than as a "jazz singer" (although there's no absolutes either way on that one for me); & B) Doing Jobim "that way" has led to results ranging from sublime to horrific. I'd like to hear sometimes how this one comes out.

Can't wait to say to my spouse, Honey, i'm gone licking my balls Try it. She'll feel guilty and do it for you!

Not at all familiar w/this one. Who's the arranger?

I must be in the wrong forum then. Wellsir, it took me many, many years to realize that, but now that I have.... Too late to turn back now!

Yeah, that's what I'm getting, and I think it's pretty...lame. Wimpy. Pussified. And dare I say cowardly? To say nothing of dangerous? Fight your own battles. If others come to your support, beautiful. Welcome them with grace (and, if need be, cunning). But if they don't, well, there you go, suck it up and do it yourself. It's only a chat forum, not a Cosmic Clash Between Good And Evil To Determine The Future Of Humankind And Their Music, dig? I mean, I'll get into it over shit that matters to me (most recently w/Allen Lowe over latter-day Max Roach), but geez, do you think I lose sleep over it, much less plot "revenge" by starting a "Why Does Stoopid Ass Allen Lowe Not Like The Loadstar?" type thread? Face it - some people hear like Clem, some tolerate him, some don't care one way or the other, some are on a case-by-case basis w/thim, and some people don't like him. Same as, I'd imaging, with every other "poster of personality" here, there, and/or everywhere. So what are you looking for, somebody to step up and say, "Dammit Clem, stop fucking w/Alfie, he's RIGHT you know!" If somebody actually does that, hey, bonus points for you, but, damn man, how lame is it to solicit that type shit, especially in a dedicated thread? Very lame, I think. Sorry, but.....yo. It just is. You're in effect saying that Clem is a bully and you're too weak to handle him. If Clem was a Big Bad World Recognized Expert and you were an Object Of International Sympathy For Being Born With One Brain Lobe Who Neverhteless Functions With Remarkable Skill, I'd be on your side all the way. But he's not and you're not. You're both just two guys who know what they like and why they like it. And it bugs you that you can't get this motherfucker who is your "equal" to back down/off. So rather than figure out a way to handle it yourself - one way or the other - you come looking for others to fight for/with you & hopefully talk enough smack about your nemesis to bring him down to size. Sorry, dude, but that is so not cool. If I was the predatorial type (of any sort), I'd get a whiff of this and think EASY PREY. And I would be right, I'm afraid. Do you want to be easy prey?