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Actually, more interesting if you listen closely. Very specific decisions being made in terms of timbre, decisions that can get you into a really narcotic zone of a space of sweet clouds with no rough edges. Everything to make you float, nothing to make you hurt. Not everybody likes to float, true. But there are many different types of float for those who do. This one is soft, painless, and floaty as fuck.
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Some kind of opiate. Or alcohol. For people who can do it without worrying about getting it or running out of it or getting public with it.
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Drug music, make no mistake. How is it?
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How many tracks was Rudy using?
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Billy Byers Peter Sellers Édgar Rentería
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Leon Durham Sandy Bull Alfred N. Sack
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MLB 2021: it’s baseball season!
JSngry replied to ghost of miles's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
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Remember him in the 1970s, on Pablo? One with Dizzy, one of his own? He plays tenor just like he plays bassoon!!!!!!
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Clarinets, check out the outchorus, where the unison intonation is less than "perfect" and the instruments reveal themself.
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Michel Pilz Rabbi Yoel of Shotz Lenny Mintz
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Which record is this?
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Anyway, try this...Grant has some kind of tape on him of whatever origin (that's a whole other question, but...the man had "personal problems" do...we don't ask), sells it for dope money, one dude calls and says, yes that Grant has traded a record date for dope money, Parse that very closely. Klein rushes over to the studio, where they're playing the tape they just got (as opposed to made), there's a tune on there that doesn't have a name, so he names it. Grant's tape came in a box that had names on it, but big deal, it's a tape box. Bottom line, there was no actual recording session in a Pittsburgh studio, the studio was booked to review the purchased tape, and this Klein guy is getting all Columbus-y about it. All the mental contortions about dates and contracts and shit, poof, they gone now. Occam's Razor, again.
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It's the head, he turns it around, like you say. But if there was anybody in the room, they'd have stopped it right there Oleo is a different thing, a Giant Steps- ish reharm of the melody, pretty tricky. And that stayed in the can for a good long time. This Work Song is just a fuckup, period. Let It Roll indeed. If there was any notion in the room of doing this as a keeper.
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Verve or somebody paid for a rehearsal/demo tape and this was it? Just how authorative is the discographical source for the unissued session, who says so? The red flag for me is Work Song, that opening, that's not something you let slide if you are going for "releasable", that's "just let it run" shit.
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Gene Ludwig appears courtesy of Joe Fields getting suckered LOL!!!!
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Now having said all that... that's Larry Young and Verve lost their damn tape. Grant had a copy of it (or something like it) and sold it for dope money to a hustler in Pittsburgh, who then waited a while and then sold it to Joe Fields who didn't really give a damn. Nobody set foot in a Pittsburgh studio to make this record. There, try that one on for size!
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The organ can be anything it's player wills it to be! It's got stops and shit! And I don't want to put TOO much credence in a Gene Ludwig Theory, but...he would not be the first player who had a gig style and the some whole other stuff stored away. Ludwig, being a white guy playing hardcore black gigs might well have loved a chance to step out of his Jimmy Smith bag under a shadow of anonymity. You drop that Larry Young shit on a Sonny Story gig???? How much margin of error do you have, even if you're Larry Young? Art AND Commerce, and Sonny Stitt (or, apparently, Grant Green ) could get an organ player who would play the gig. Too bad that nobody asked Ben Dixon if HE was on the date. If not, the issue of who pays the band is easy - Grant gets dope money, the Ludwig people pay their own in whatever manner they did things, the tape gets names written on it, hey, easiest scenario to date. Occam's Razor. And you know, ask yourself this - what's going on that a guy who is a regular visitor to Pittsburgh needs bread to cop, and the guy he calls is Gene Ludwig's manager. What's the deal there? That's not the type of favor you ask just anybody, you need to know in advance what your odds are that you're not going to get completely shut down, or worse. So...there is more to this story than is being told, has to be. Either that, or fraud was perpetrated and hubris is acting up Or maybe not. Either way, it's about time that jazz organ join the Q-Anon age!!!!
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https://youtu.be/aUXnz3ybUf8 What would be a hoot is if neither John Patton, Larry Young, nor Ben Dixon are actually on this record! What if it's Grant doing a dope money date with Gene Ludwig and Randy Geledpie? Or what if that's not even Grant? What if the whole thing was a Gene Ludwig trio date that got sold to Joe Fields? I am ROTFLMFAO thinking about this, because Klein's story reeks of Shady Grady to one degree or another. You just don't tell a story like that, LIKE that, unless you are either senile or covering *something* up. Dead men tell no tales, but live ones best be careful, lest the dead ones start talking.
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Don & Moki Cherry in the NYT
JSngry replied to Joe's topic in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...
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Blue Note Groove Things, imaginary box set
JSngry replied to danasgoodstuff's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Hey, that whole Turrnentine album is an overlooked gem. Anybody who says they don't like, ask them why, and then get the Rorschach out...same thing for somebody who does. But it's nothing but Turrnentine doing what Turrnentine do, and having a blast doing it. -
Rollo Maitland, great name! And you know that #1, Whispering", is the tune they used for " Groovin' High", right? So...mashup maybe some day?
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Yeah, it's surreal...
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Gene Ludwig's manager called? And this guy sold the tape to Joe Fields based on Patton but can't remember who was at the organ? Dude, I have yet to know a manager who doesn't know where the dope is. It's a useful skill set, if not for your client, as a way to leverage favor with Strangers In Town. Gene Ludwig could play, but his name would not get a tape sold to Joe Fields Would you cop to selling a tape with at least one knowingly incorrect player listed? Somebody paid somebody. Dope ain't free. But Gene Ludwig's manager called and knew that Grant need to cop, hey, can we get a record made here? Where was Gene Ludwig On This Day In History? Btw - a while back, I picked up Gene Ludwig's Mainstream album, and liked it pretty well, even though it's pretty overtly Jimmy Smith-is. But that was the marketplace then, and judgements cannot meaningfully be made on such scant and skewed evidence. But this local/dope money scenario...the plot potentially thickens now?
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Omg...Gene Ludwig?
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