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Yeah, there is that...and it's unfortunate. But there's almost by definition a connection between " communication" and "manipulation"...if you want to manipulate me to buy a record, fair enough. If you want to manipulate me to consider a broader worldview, thank you for caring. But if you want to manipulate me for the purpose of overt prosthelization..advertise it as such, like Gospel or some such. To be fair, I haven't noticed anything like that at the casual fan level that I've been at for quite a while now. And I've know a few people that joined and did just fine. But there are the others... What any of that has to do with Chick Cores, I don't know, and I don't know if I should care. But...

Yeah, although it was surely due in part to label synergy, the Burton/Jarrett record was from 197 0 and was pretty popular. 1970!

We're having power outages here so I'm having to post on my cell phone exclusively. so what's happening is is that anybody that I started to quote on this thing the quote doesn't go away on until it ends up being posted. I'll clean it up when the power comes back on and the PC is back up. All I was thinking about commenting on was your comment that the chick was like the "last" type of whatever it was you said he was I think that's the monster bleeding not true. One of the last yes but there's still others around.

Oh, it's easy to have 2022 opinions about Corea's and Jarrett's differences and arcs, REAL easy. It was also easy in 1972, but it looked a WHOLE lot different then. A lot can happen over 50 years!

I'm very curious about all the unreleased Sonny Rollins in the RCA vaults, but don't know if I want to hear it. Maybe yes, maybe no.

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That one shows as being recorded March 23 and April 12, 13, and 20, 1972 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_(Airto_album) RTF did there's ever so slightly earlier, 2 & 3 February 1972 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Forever_(Chick_Corea_album) Also on that album, Keith JArrett and his soon to be standard "Lucky Southern"...a standard that he himself never recorded outside of this record?!?!?! You look at tat record and it's personnel...you can trace it back to, basically, Miles & Duke Pearson, almost everybody on there. Don't know that it's my favorite Airto record of that period (that's probably Fingers), but...impossible to overlook it and the audience it has drawn, then and now. It's kinda funny that in 1972, Keith was actually the more overtly populist performer. Chick, still re-orienting himself towards "communication", Keith making taht duet record with Gary Burton (which actually was pretty popular, as I recall), and writing stuff like this:

Looks like they used the same cover art, just in different colors, until the John Cage records. https://www.discogs.com/label/50041-Dial-Records-3

Well, I got a shipping notice, so it's in stock. But it doesn't actually ship until tomorrow, so wtf? shipping notice, loosely applied language here...notice of intent to ship is more like it.

What I have not yet heard of is this movie(?). I see that it's on some variant of HBO? The assassination of Fred Hampton was a key turning point in the unfortunate redirection of certain dynamics. Americans need to know this story and what came from it, because where we are now has not occurred in a historical void.

Right. so they are not making money on a potential asset, which is not the same as actually losing money. 0 = 0.

Still haven't seen one in the flesh, but hopefully I got this order placed in time...won't believe it until it gets here, though.

Should be Booker Little, but kinda looks like/dressed more like Miles? But no record of Miles being there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monterey_Jazz_Festival 1958 Mort Sahl, Master of Ceremonies, Ernestine Anderson with Gerald Wiggins, Louis Armstrong and His All-Stars, Burt Bales & the Dixie All-Stars, Betty Bennett, Dave Brubeck Quartet, Benny Carter, George Coleman, Buddy DeFranco, Art Farmer, Med Flory Band, Jimmy Giuffre Three with Bob Brookmeyer and Jim Hall, Dizzy Gillespie, Claude Gilroy Quintet, Virgil Gonsalves Sextet, Billie Holiday, Milt Jackson, Harry James Orchestra, John Lewis, Mel Lewis-Bill Holman Quintet, Booker Little, Shelly Manne, Mastersounds with Wes Montgomery, Lizzie Miles, Buddy Montgomery and Monk Montgomery, Modern Jazz Quartet, Monterey Jazz Festival Symphony conducted by Gregory Millar, Brew Moore & Dickie Mills Quintet, Gerry Mulligan, Max Roach, Sonny Rollins, Rudi Salvini Band, Grace Stock, Jake Stock & the Abalone Stompers, Cal Tjader Sextet, Leroy Vinnegar Quartet with Teddy Edwards, Ed Zubov Band

Can you write that off? As either a cost or a loss? I remember during the last last recession, I was expressing sorrow about stock decline-loss to an investing friend of mine and they told me not to worry, they wouldn't have actually lost money until they sold their stock at a lower price than they bought it, and with what they had, they weren't going to sell it any time soon, it was going to be back up, eventually. and it was!

Wasn't sure what to expect, and still not sure what I really got, but it was a mostly satisfying listen, although there were a few spots when it sounded like French cafe music, which is not something that I really enjoy, except no, it wasn't, it was just John Lewis playing Bach with some weird rhythm section thing going on. But that was only in a few places, and since it wasn't actually French cafe music (no accordion!), I just dealt with it. Overall, mostly satisfying. John Lewis had this stealth thing going on that you disregard at your own peril.

Full Mantis is on Amazon Prime. Just watch it, never mind what you think it's going to be about, just watch it. My wife, who does not at all like anything resembling "energy music" or "free jazz" was hooked about 10-15 minutes into it. She got deep into it. It's that kind of a thing.

How do you actually lose potential income? otoh, you can leverage just a dime or two to make income and then keep making income off of money you don't really have until you actually do have some money, so I guess anything's possible, as long as the bill never really comes due, in which case, you might well be fucked.

That alarm clock indeed told me that it was time to wake up...

Wow, I had forgotten about that one! Dick Meza came as a surprise to me when I found it, because I had only known him from a few Fania records. Obviously more to him than just that one thing. But THIS now begs the question - when was the title "Rio" given to it? Because here it's just called "Wayne Shorter's Bossa Nova".

You should play it on a lower-quality hi-fi. I do! so the dude lives in NC now, for real? How long has he lived there? He has family there or what? He's still delivering strong like a mofo. Tarheel asskicking in motion, then. And seriously, I did not bother to look at personnel or anything today, Amazon dropped it off, I put it right in, and I'm thinking, wow, this is really reminiscent of the Chambers/Bobby records, whoever is playing vibes is really getting it RIGHT. Retro but right. And then I looked at the actual record to see who the vibist was, and OMG, it's Joe Chambers himself, not retro, REAL DEAL. Has anybody covered Wayne's "Rio" since The Procrastinator"? Inspired choice! Inspired record, period. Strong.

Superb!

OMG, this is a really good record. Basically a bassist, a keyboardist, and Joe Chambers on everything else - vibes, drums, percussion. Yes there is overdubbing, and no, it's not in the least bit obvious. Joe Chambers remains a master musician with something meaningful to say. And as a bandleader, his tempos and the pockets that spring from them...catch them while you can, ladies and gentlemen, when they're gone, they're gone, they ain't making any more.

I am not the "target"for this product... sorry...

Yes, a good record, and I still recall it as a welcome respite from all the over-composed (imo) bombast (again, imo) that he got into starting with Romantic Warrior...i lost a lot of patience with him after all that, although the things that weren't that (including the Echoes Of An Era record with Chaka Khan & Joe Henderson, an unlikely GOOD record) still caught my ear. The Trio Music records, the ongoing duets with Burton, the list goes on, they were all like, ok, where has THIS guy been? It was like he had two minds, one for pure music, one for pure spectacle, and damned if I could figure out when he was bothering to make a difference. But you know, some people earn that right (or probably more accurately, recognize that right within themself), and he was one of them.

I was disappointed in the charts, seemed to have a bit of a sameness to them. Mulligan developed way past this, I think. Even when he breaks up the lines a little bit, there's not variety in the instrumentation. I guess he conducted this date, so, hey, if that's what he wanted....my hopes were for more/different/better than this. Oh well. All the soloists seem to be "connecting the dots", like good studio players should (I guess). Put me in mind of a pinball game, the ball rolls to one cadence/bumper, bounces of on to the next one, gotta flip it up every so often. And Jimmy Cleveland...oh my god, this is the first time I've heard him be as annoying as a lot of other people often found him to be...I thought it was Frank Rosolino until I looked at the notes, just...manic. The big drag for me, though, was the charts. Evans writing for Thornhill this ain't.