JSngry

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Produced by Jackie Mills and tom Wolf? Do tell!

You and me both. HATE having to flip back and forth, or even worse, going back and reading the footnotes after finishing the book and trying to remember why they're there.

I have almost 100% doubt that it's " one of the last untold stories of jazz", I mean, the real "untold stories" of jazz are probably many and will probably never be told because they sprang from a world that no longer exists (and the narrative has long ago been established to an institutional benefit that did not and will not yield in time to have them told in full), but It's a story I'd very much like to hear - and will hear- if it's from an author who can be trusted. Do we trust this Phillip Clark guy to just tell the story without advocating for anything other than the story itself?

Well, if you're looking at solo fruits, sure. But if you're looking at a fruit salad, context. The dude predated the invention of bebop and outlived its usefulness. Who among us here today can make a claim like that? And if we perchance can, what stories we must have seen and lived, and not just in one world. I mean, Kirk Douglas weren't no village grandmother in Czxitabolia. The guy got out in the world. Out and around.

If memory serves, there was a switch in cane sourcing, perhaps due to some environmental change, perhaps also for financial reasons. Supply/Demand/Etc. Also, the cutting process got really sketchy, probably due to machine tooling, possibly just a decline in quality control.. Used to be even the most basic, cheapest box of reeds would mostly be well-centered, evenly cut. Nowadays...good luck on that. Last time I was buying reeds regularly, their were "premium" brands that had a much more consistent cut, but still...premium prices. The first consideration (cane sourcing) can be researched to a more definite conclusion. The second, maybe not. But the results speak for themselves. So, theories is all they are.

Yeah, I ain't buying too many more new LPs going forth. That horse done left the barn, I don't care how many times it limps back home, I'll feed it and keep it dry, because after all, what kind of a human would do otherwise to such a noble specimen of god's glorious majesty? But I'll not be saddling it up and giving it a good (and honest!) days work, like we used to do back in the days before we had robots and laser beams

He was born about four years before Charlie Parker and outlived him by more damn near 65 years. Think about that.

35+ years later, the industry is possibly, finally grasping this most obvious of facts. Of course, only after getting that first surge of sunami-like revenue of novelty money. Geniuses!

If not already, then now!

I think they made the music just fine (usually). But George Butler did not know how to produce a record down to a really good mix like Creed Taylor (or for that matter, the Mizells) did. So the records did not really add anything to the music, which is kinda like...don't do that, ok? Just don't do that, if only becuase people will listen to damn near anything once, more than once if it's a hit. But if you want them to listen to it later and later and later, no. You gotta have some combination of good (or better) music and a good (or better) record But as far as playing...this is just fine, as far as "that type of thing" goes. But here it is all these years later, and what the record does is show that Wade Marcus was not David Van DePitte (but few were), George Butler was for damn sure no Creed Taylor, Lou Donaldson had long ago figured out that no matter what, he could make a record for somebody and get paid well enough to keep on keeping on, and that c'mon people, nobody's asking for greatness all the time, but at least get it right, ok? At least get the motherfucker mixed right enough that you don't have to notice anything else if you don't want to. George Butler - BOO! I mean, a good mix, and this would be ok every once in a while or so.

Same here w/the Ardittis (and now am pretty much willing to pick up anything I find by them...when it's affordable to). Just picked up the Pacificas, looking forward to settling in with them soon. The Carter quartets are definitely things to go all in for the long haul with, imo.

Oh HELL yeah! Fania never used Chombo (afaik) and that is to their eternal discredit. Chombo was one of those guys that if you don't get "it", you might not get it. He's not the only one, but damn, CHOMBO!!!! and Charlie Palmieri...overlooked at one's own risk, imo.

True, but it's a risk that is sometimes recorded to a certain extent, especially if "serious jazz" is not a deal-breaker. etc. Face it - it's Lou Donaldson. At some point long before these records, he had learned to to get the gig, play the gig, and keep the gig. That's what most of his records are, and I'm fine with that. The guy is all about professionalism, and god bless him for that. He'd have been better off making these type of records with Kudu, but they already had Hank Crawford. AND Grover.

Maybe some PR angle to the list, or some of it anyway. Hawk was known to have, shall we say, "ambiguous" feelings about Prez, depending on who he was talking to and why. And there's the time he told somebody that the only one of his "peers" that he thought could really play was Chu Berry. With that in mind, I'd have to think that the only guy on that list that he probably had a wholehearted respect for was Don Byas. Gotta say that the image of Hawk burning up the engine in his car trying to high-tail it to a Henderson gig because he had stayed all night into the morning trying in vain to best Ben & Prez at an after-hours jam in Kansas City is perhaps one of favorite mental images in all of life, especially in jazz. Those guys were warriors in every sense of the word.

Sam Donahue sneaking a bit of The Lockjaw Code:

Dex already on the radar in 1941!

The 70s were very good for Esther Phillips. And she was good for them!

Kudu had some great stuff, but only if you don't look for the jazz quotient that you'd look for in CTI (he said, fully aware of the possibility of the irony therein). But no matter - Esther Phillips?

Ah, but Hank recorded for Kudu, which was the same thing, only very different! And speaking of Kudu...Esther Phillips?

Surprise!!!