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I'm confused. I thought Billy was related to Norah Jones???

And while this thread may have arguably strayed into politics, Chris' original Brokeback thread was clearly politically-intentioned from the beginning. Even then i wouldn't have bothered to move it, but it was still very clearly political.

Why do you consider the political forum a "hidden hole?" It's the second most trafficked forum on this site.

Agreed. But there's a bit of the ol' chicken-egg paradox thing going on as well. It's great when some small label legitimately releases some long-lost album by some relatively obscure jazz musician, hoping that they might be able to sell a thousand copies or two. Boo on the pirates then. But if no one is willing to risk a legit release - and let's face it, cost is a prohibative factor when it comes to these obscure releases, especially domestically - what then? Is it then acceptable for Lonehill (or whomever) to release something "illegitimately?" My point above, even though I botched the example, is when is it okay (or is it never?) for the preservation of an artist's musical heritage to trump financial considerations? Now I don't for a minute believe that Lonehill is doing this out of any sense of altruism, but there's nevertheless something admirable out of a label keeping an artist's work in print who might otherwise be forgotten to history because of limited commercial prospects.

http://www.magnebit.com/vsoprecords/vsop/vsop04.htm Okay, bad example!

My thoughts exactly. Same here. Allen summed it perfectly and expressed it better than I would have... And again.. just look at the coverage of west coast jazz they have, THe Candoli's, Stu Williamson, Don Fagerquist, Childers, Ferguson..... and that's just some of the trumpet players.... If the " legit" companies served these up at reasonable prices, I'm sure most of us would go there. I'm not actually familiar with Lonehill, but for them and their ilk, financial recompense aside, I do have to laud them for rescuing many relatively unknown artists from obscurity. Some things, after all, are (or should be) more valuable than money. Really now, are there any legit and/or U.S. labels that would ever release a Don Fagerquist album on CD?

One can't make any conclusions on global warming based on a warmer-than-average winter or two; as someone above said, this is a long-term (as in hundreds/thousands of years) thing. If next year was suddenly a bad winter, would everyone say that the whole global warming concern is over? There's also little doubt among scientists that global warming is occuring; the question is whether it's a natural occurance, the result of industrialization, or some combination of the two.

I agree that Miles was a trumpeter.

I prefer a more elitist definition. If I say it's music, it's music dammit, and the rest of you can sod off.

I think they should give just one lifetime award per show and all the performers should have to fight for it.

I will refute that argument with but two words: Kenny G.

Seriously, though, there are some significant privacy concerns about all this. It's incredibly useful, for example, to use GPS location on a cell phone to find someone lost in the woods, but on the other hand do you really want the government (or even one's wife!) knowing where you are at every moment?

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/12/sprint-...babys-gps-info/

But a songbird isn't really singing - or making music. What it's doing is communicating - "talking" if you will - and it's only we who ascribe it as being "music" since its (usually) pleasant and organized sounds are "musical" to our cultural sensibilities. A bird's singing is really no different from a dog's barking, but aside from a few annoying Christmas songs few would consider barking to be musical. I think proclaiming "organized sound" with no modifiers toward intent to be "music" is too broad a definition to be useful.

If it's the Stuttgart show that I have Lon - from a German radio rebroadcast - the sound is stunning. My favorite of the European tour.

Safe choice maybe, but was glad to hear about U2's win. Thought Bomb was one of the better mainstream albums of last year.

Impressive! Thanks for the 411.

Hey Allen, I know you're a modest guy and all that - - but could you tell those of us who know nothing about this set and your book a bit about what it's all about? Obviously (very) early jazz, but it sounds like your book has been published before, in full, and this is just an excerpt? This one may be a bit too "early" for my tastes, but the later volumes sound intriguing...

Great price! It's $221 on iTunes...

Hmmm. See what you mean about everything being a bit, uh, pricey. $85 for a t-shirt? For that price it better come with a free lap dance. And not from Horace either.

Believe it or not, but I can finally see the site... but only from home. For whatever reason my computer at work keeps redirecting me to the Verve site...

Now that would have made a fine Super Bowl spot!

I'm the same way, Allan, re: her albums - wonderful music but a bit too, I dunno, precious for my tastes in some ways - but I saw her live last summer at UCLA and her band does put on a fine show. Ms. Schneider herself is an absolute delight; very personable, witty, and charming on stage. I've been very tempted to go tonight, but the family's been a bit under the weather this week...

Good show; not great as a few parts were a bit too "noisy" for my tastes, but overall i really enjoyed it. It was actually somewhat difficult to recognize Hill's compositions since some of the arrangements were so extreme - and no piano of course. Most of the numbers were played as "suites" consisting of 2 or 3 different tunes arranged together. Some were quite brilliant - such as the one that included a snippet of Rumproller - others not so much. But it was an invigorating set overall, and it's so refreshing to see an artist's work tackled in a manner that's both unconventional and reverent. I think Andrew would be proud.

I love this set too, but be warned that there's a fair amount of repetition each night.