Guy Berger

Dan, I just like this music and it's hard for me to express exactly why. I really Coltrane's saxophone tone during this period, and the intellectual density/rigor of his playing. (That intellectual density/rigor is something I don't hear in some other free jazz saxophonists.) I like his playing with the Tyner/Garrison/Jones rhythm section on the 1965 quartet recordings (they only got better) and his rapport with Rashied Ali. Though I'll don't feel a direct connection to the spirituality expressed in the music, I do completely sense the passion behind it. When I first discovered this music I listened to it ALL THE TIME. These days, I'll put it on the stereo whenever I feel like it. Guy

Yup. That's a huge range of music that Trane packed into these two and a half years. A range that most artists don't produce in their entire careers. I hear less "fury" in the '66 recordings than in the late '65 recordings. Guy

Maybe I'm misreading you Slide, but in case you didn't know -- the Onion doesn't print real articles. Some staff member had a ffun time writing this one! Guy

I hate to deprive Allen of income, but the 2nd CD (a bootleg, I believe) is probably available online for free. Guy

Though Jesus was also Jewish, I don't think he wore plaid. Assessments of his hipness probably belong in the politics forum. Guy

I decided to give them away via Craig's List. DAMN, I can't believe the number of responses I got!! Guy

I am moving out of New Haven in the next few days and do not intend to keep my furniture. Is it ethical for me just to leave it on the sidewalk in front of my apartment building? I'm sure somebody will pick it up over the next week. Guy

Really? I've never heard anybody suggest this. Guy

Is anybody on this board a Harper's subscriber? I am looking for an article from their archives (November 1982, written by PJ O'Rourke). You would have my deep gratitude. Thanks Guy

Maybe I'm much more jaded than the rest of you, but this doesn't have much of an effect on my opinion of NBA officiating. Guy

Not a crazy thought... It'd be awesome if it's Chuck. Guy

I'm guessing this isn't available on CD? I may have to look for an MP3 copy. How does the music compare to Kloss's two albums w/Corea/Holland/DeJohnette? Guy

Yikes. If I came across as some sort of Jarrett "fanboy" that was definitely not my intent. To summarize: 1) I have no problem if someone dislikes Jarrett's music. Different strokes and all. I personally don't like all of it, as I'm sure you can find out if you comb the archives. 2) I have no interest in defending Jarrett the person. He's a putz. 3) I do think that people's opinions of his music are affected by extramusical factors (as you can see from this thread) -- his obnoxious personality, his pretentious blatherings, his financial success, his occasionally cult-like followers, etc. That's completely human, but it needs to be acknowledged. 4) I also think that blanket "objective" dismissals of his work, dismissals of his contribution to his music (ie "group X works in spite of his playing"), or the even stronger suggestion that he's an (artistic) phony are BS. (The obvious implication of these arguments is that the many people who seem to genuinely love his music are 'wrong'.) 5) Many of the "objective" criticisms directed against his music could easily be directed at other more "politically correct" pianists or musicians. (For example, Jarrett vs. Herbie's gospellisms. Or Jarrett vs. Byard on the eclectic nature of their playing.) 6) Hopefully if any other musician came under unfair criticism on this board, I'd act in exactly the same way. Guy

Interesting. I'm obviously biased as I've only listened to the British version, but judging by the tracklist I think the US version is inferior. All IMHO, of course. Guy

First, I agree with almost all of what Clem's being saying in this thread. Second (and this is taking the thread way off-topic), I think Clem's quote above brings up an interesting topic (economics of race vs. class in the US) that I actually did some casual reading about after an online discussion. It's way outside the scope of this thread, but if you are interested in what I "discovered" then I'll be glad to PM you, with the upfront disclaimer that I'm pretty much a dilettante when it comes to this research/literature. Guy

I miss Phil Hartman. Cooking with the Anal-Retentive Chef

Damn. MG, when I saw you had posted in this thread, I was hoping to read your ecstatic review of the collected works of Winston Churchill. Guy

David, I said this a few posts back, but I think you are mis-characterizing the bulk of the contributions to this thread. Guy

Please, cite one incident when that has happened (the Washington thing). I seriously doubt it. PC hysteria has gotten out of hand in some cases, but I seriously doubt that any school has expunged Washington, Jefferson, or any other slave-holding founder. This smacks of Right-Wing hysteria. After some SERIOUS googling, I managed to find this: link edit: I see Ray beat me to it. There's also this: less north Virginia schools named after individuals Not something that I find to be particularly alarming. FWIW, here at Yale there's been some controversy over Calhoun College. (I think it's fair to say that Calhoun is a far more controversial historical figure than George Washington.) Guy

Find a computer with an internet connection. Guy

Haven't seen that one. Guy

Interesting. I think that in retrospect, they were wrong. Guy

Go see a doctor! Guy