Guy Berger

From the Pink Floyd thread: What else would you call this? I would call it asking for a recommendation, much like one would ask for a recommendation about the latest RVGs or a particular artist. Guy

Who was Miles following on Agharta and Pangaea? Guy

Well, I should have expressed myself more clearly - the last point you're making is exactly what I meant. ← There's no horse-trading going on in the Pink Floyd thread -- that's why I was surprised when Kevin mentioned it in this context. Guy

Could it be because it's about boots, i.e. illegal recordings? ← Are we going to ban discussion of illegal recordings? BTW, at least some of these recordings aren't illegal -- they're BBC broadcasts from the 70s. Guy ← So BBC broadcasts can magically become legal recordings for sale? Interesting what you learn in Grad School. ← The guy said "illegal recordings", I assumed he was talking about a dude in the audience surreptitiously recording the music. Not sure where the "sale" part is coming in -- nobody is selling anything. Guy

Speaking for myself, I've discussed plenty of unofficial recordings on this board -- the Miles Davis Lost Quintet stuff, the Miles from 1967 and 1971, the Coltrane Half Note music, the Coltrane 11/4/63 Stuttgart gig, etc. The recent Wayne Shorter thread discussed recordings from that tour, most of which are unofficial. I think it's a real shame (and a little strange) if we say that this music is off-limits for discussion. Guy

Could it be because it's about boots, i.e. illegal recordings? ← Are we going to ban discussion of illegal recordings? BTW, at least some of these recordings aren't illegal -- they're BBC broadcasts from the 70s. Guy

The discussion in the Floyd thread is completely innocuous -- I asked for recommendations on the best unofficial Floyd recordings and other people responded. There's no trading going on, at least as far as I know. I have no idea why Kevin B thinks it's relevant to this thread. Guy

I agree if we're talking about his work as a leader. I'd put Our Thing in 2nd place, and Jim Sangrey's assessments of MFJ and Page One seem on target to me. I've never gone crazy over In'n'Out (unless we're talking about the burgers) -- it's very good, something about that session sounds a little weird to me, as if the musicians aren't all on the same page. BUT... overall I think Joe's best work on BN was as a sideman. Guy

It's gonna rock... I can't wait until the John McDonough review. Guy

Oh sorry, you're illegally downloading boots... that makes it all right then. I forgot that any music downloaded is automatically perfectly legal. ← yaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn Floyd releases this material officially, I buy it. Until then, this is a victimless crime. Unrelated, but (re: earlier comment) the Floyd bootleg I was listening to earlier has EXCELLENT sound. A terrific version of "Echoes", and two different performances of the unreleased "Embryo". Guy

Clandy -- I didn't mean to offend. My issue is with that one line by McDonough, which to me, conveyed his conservative spin (I mean, this dude makes Crouch and Wynton seem open-minded) -- that we can ignore Miles's recordings between 196x-1975 (I didn't even think of BoTC or the Prestige records, but same comment for those). Guy

Sometimes the "real stuff" doesn't exist for the music in question -- live Floyd from the early 70s, for example. Guy

Awesome, thanks a lot. I assume we are talking about this one. Have you heard the second disc? Has anybody heard of the boots with "The Man & the Journey"? Guy

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Jesus... my condolences for all Londoners, and Brits in general. Guy

Just wanted to bump this up because I've been really digging a lot of Haden's work from the 70s (w/Ornette, Keith, and Paul Motian) recently. I love this guy's playing! Guy

Any particular favorites? I'm trying to decide which to download. Guy ← there is one called "atom heart mother goes on the road" which i was listening to this past week which is very nice. good sound quality-which seems to not often be the case with pink floyd boots. if you find that one, download it and check it out. ← Thanks dude -- I think disc 1 of the following is what you are talking about? LOOKS TASTY! Guy

Any particular favorites? I'm trying to decide which to download. Guy

Thanks for posting that article, Bev -- very interesting. (I totally forgot about the kitchen-implement album -- I wonder if the band would still be together if they'd decided to take that path... Anyway, I found this (scroll down):

SUCKERS!!

Mazal tov, Barak

The Live8 performance has given me a Floyd itch as well. I already own all the albums ('cept the recent live Wall -- no interest; need to pick up the Zabriskie Point soundtrack) but I ripped Dark Side and Meddle onto the iPod and am now downloading the 1970-71 BBC sessions. Anybody have a recommendation for good Floyd downloads from DaD? I'm not interested in every Floyd bootleg ever recorded, just in the best stuff. Bonus points for especially good versions of "Echoes" or interesting jamming. By the way, upthread GregK complained about the lack of a decent-sounding "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" -- there's a studio version on Relics. Much calmer than on Ummagumma. Guy

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Is this dude's name really Gruntfest? Is it accurate? Guy

What about the wilder parts of "A Saucerful of Secrets"? Guy