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so so so so fucking bad, man... worth it for comic/superlative value at least. THEE worst nomimally dead song ever? otherwise, yeah, the box is worthwhile. It's so so so fucking bad, but even more so for me is Way to Go Home (Bralove/Hunter/Welnick) - 6:27 The last show I saw I got one of these. Though a longshot I thought if I stared at Vinnie long enough & hard enough, maybe I could make his head explode and the damn song would end. Didn't work, but it was worth a try.

It's appeared on 2 DVDs (View From The Vault 1 & 3.) You can also get those shows as CDs though the DVD is a better value (especially if they have them at Deepdiscountdvd.) I don't think they're intentionally avoiding it, it's just the way things have worked out. Part of it may have to do with the nature of the Dick Pick's series, which relies on 2-track master tapes whereas the Vault series uses multi-track tapes. Most "Touch of Greys" are from the multi-track era and there's usually only one Vault release each year. The other problem is in the early '80s the band briefly used cassettes rather than reels, so shows from that period aren't up to snuff for release. I can no longer remember when the cassette era ended, but it is close to when the earlier versions were played. However there have been a few Dick's from the '80s & '90s...I don't know if they were mixed down multi-tracks or 2-track to begin with. Mixing down multi-tracks seems like a shame, but I seem to recall they've done it before (DP 15 Englishtown.) For the most part though if you've heard one version you've heard 'em all. I guess you could say about a few other songs as well (though not many.)

Not on anything that's been officially released. He played with the Dead on at least 2 dates: 9-22-93 at Madison Square Garden and 2-26-95 at the Oakland Coliseum. I haven't heard them myself, but I recall reading posts by a guy who is a big Murray (and Dead) fan who found them somewhat disappointing. YMMV. --------------- 9-22-93 MSG Set 1 Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower > New Minglewood Blues ; Ramble On Rose ; When I Paint My Masterpiece ; Bird Song (1) Set 2 Easy Answers (1) ; Lazy River Road (1) ; Estimated Prophet (1) > Dark Star (1) > Drums (1) > Space (1) > Wharf Rat (1) > Throwing Stones (2) > Turn On Your Lovelight (2) Encore I Fought The Law Comments (1) with David Murray. (2) with David Murray and James Cotton. -------------------- 2-26-95 Oakland Set 1 Good Times ; West L.A. Fadeaway ; Queen Jane Approximately ; Lazy River Road ; Mama Tried > Mexicali Blues ; Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Iko Iko ; Samson And Delilah ; Ship Of Fools > Estimated Prophet* > Eyes Of The World* > Drums* > Space* > I Need A Miracle* > Days Between* > Not Fade Away* Encore Box Of Rain * w/ David Murray

Oh, don't mind if I do. Aside from #28, the other post-20 DPs I'm especially fond of include: DP 22 - Feb 22 & 23, 1968 from Kings Beach Bowl in Lake Tahoe is pretty wild & wooly. You get a Dark Star>China Cat>Eleven, a combo that didn't last long. I think the posters for the show say "Trip & Ski." They sound like the baddest bar band at this stage. It is rough stuff but fun, and the sound quality, while good is just a shade below the norm for the series. If you like DP 11 you'll love DP 23 (Sept. 17, '72 Baltimore.) Instead of a Dark Star you get a monstrous Other One. Another great Fall '72 show. Keep 'em comin'! I don't own the pick but I have all the shows that comprise it - DP 31 (Aug 4-6, '74) has some terrific music on 4 discs. The most famous section has a Playin'>Scarlet>Playin' (36 minutes), but there's plenty more delicious stuff. As usual for '74 the China > Rider and WRS are divine. Highly recommended. The one that still surprises me is DP 20, which is not quite 2 complete shows from Sept 25 & 28 '76. The "Orange Tango Jam" on disc 4 is unlike anything I've heard Jerry do. '76 has its share of duds (not these shows), but what makes it interesting is that they mixed up the song order in a way they never really did again, and though it didn't really they brought bad "Cosmic Charlie." I've played this pick more often than I ever imagined. DP 29 is 2 shows from the glorious month of May 1977 (19th & the 21.) The 19th might be the best show from '77. If not it's up there. They toss in a little filler too, namely a "Dancin'" from 10/17 that just goes & goes. 6 discs at a nice price from a month when they were really ON.

You can still get it where you get your Dick's Picks at the Grateful Dead store. Well, I was hoping to find it cheaper. It's something like $75 there, but I do recall it being in the $50s or so at Media Play and Best Buy. Yeah, the Dead store is always more expensive for things like that. Amazon has a few used copies in the $50 range (before shipping.) It does seem like they're not putting out new copies of this. Awhile back I thought I heard another similar sort of songs-across-eras box was in the works, though there were never any hard confirmations from reliable sources. We are getting the Grateful Dead Movie on DVD in early November though with a bonus disc.

You can still get it where you get your Dick's Picks at the Grateful Dead store. I'll 2nd your rec on #28, though for '73 #14 is still my favorite. And honest, it's only a coincidence that Donna being away on those nights is why I love it so! Though with '73 I've bought 'em all, even shows I already had on CD-R. *edited to shrink the quote box*

I saw them a little over a dozen times in the late '80s thru the early '90s. During that time I was content to have about 8 albums and just a few tapes which were radio comps that I made. I never found the band of that era to be worth following (though some of the extra curricular stuff was interesting.) I remember thinking that people who collected hundreds of tapes to be kinda sad as it seemed like that was all they ever listened to. Something really strange happened to me when I gave up cigarettes about 5 years ago. There must have been some sort of massive physiological change as somehow instead of nicotine I started craving Jerry's guitar. Around the same time I had bought a CD burner and I replaced one addiction with another. I now have something like 900 hours of unreleased live Dead (mostly from '72-'74 & '77), about 20 Dick's Picks and all of the pre-Brent era Vault releases. Oh, lets not forget the DVDs. The trading experience was a lot of fun as there are so many friendly & sharing people in the community and in a way I think it's kind of a shame that now so many people miss out on that and just download shows. Although the shows on the servers are in such amazing editions thanks to folks who get ahold of the original reels and put in a lot of time on workstations. Many of the shows I picked up just 3 years ago now circulate without any cassette generation. It really is hilarious how some shows (such as 8-27-72) have been "reissued" more than Blue Train. Like many I prefer the 1 drummer era. Those muscular Fall '72 "Other Ones", the delightfully weird & spacey jams of '73, and those "Weather Report Suites" of '74 that float along so beautifully. And like Bev I love the cowboy songs from that era as they still put their heart into 'em then. Although there are times when I crave the more primitive sounds of '68 & '69, or that sunshine sound of '77. Or early '78, or Fall '79... heck, sometimes even '90. Oddly enough it was when I finally had more Dead than I needed that my jazz obsession began. And now instead of trading CDRs of shows I'm spending much more money buying jazz discs. And couldn't be happier!

I always liked "Confusing Warblers" as a band name. Yup, in Borders and the like you can usually find the raptor guide. For those who don't know it's the different coloration through the first few years of some hawks and eagles that make identification difficult. That and morphs. But if you really want to know what kind of gull you saw, you'll probably have to order the specialty guide online. And request a DNA sample from the gull in question, just to be sure. And it might just oblige on your head.

As far as bird guides there are so many good books to choose from nowadays. It used to be one just picked either the East or West version of Peterson (I have both.) One disadvantage of the Peterson guides is that the map for where the bird can be found is in the back of the book. So you may find yourself endlessly flipping back and forth to see if the bird in the book that you thought you saw even lives in your area. A better alternative might be the National Geographic guide, which includes birds from all over the US and includes the map near the drawing and description of the bird. I'm not all that keen on the "regular" Audubon guide with photos of birds. It's set up so that the text & map are in a different location than the photo of the bird. Also, even though I've taken plenty of pictures of birds, I think a drawing works better in showing what a bird looks like, especially in pointing out the key details that differentiate it from a similar species. Although it's too big to carry into the field, the Sibley Guide To Birds is extremely good. It cost around $35 and it may be more than want. It covers the entire US and has lots of extra drawings of each species (such as including illustrations of juveniles and sub-species.) It might be the Mosaic of bird guides. There is also put a smaller Sibley Field guide version (East & West separately) that I haven't inspected. Finally, there's the Stokes Guide, which also divides the country between East & West, uses photos and puts all the info on the same page. It uses a color tab index and is arranged a bit differently than other guides. Some people like their system, others don't. Anyway, try 'em out in the store and see what works best for you. And it's OK to own more than one guide. Yeah, l like birds.

That happened to me with my Blue Mitchell. Check your receipt. It'll have a number.

Must be the exclamation points! What sayest thou, Mr. Killowatt? There was a watt-er lot of voltage in your post JSngry. He must be too shocked to reply. When a Texan starts talkin' like Shakespeare, I'm shocked all right!

Though I think RVGs are a bargain, after filling out a spreadsheet I see you might be on to something. Or to rephrase it, a long disc that's priced higher might be a better bargain than a short RVG, at least in terms of valuing art by the pound (or in this case, minute.) Just a few examples: A 70 minute disc at $16.89 is equal to a 50 minute disc at $11.89. (24¢ a minute.) The same goes for the above if the 70 minute disc is $11.48 and the 50 minute is $7.99. (16¢ a minute.) A 57 min. disc at $14.99 is equal to a 35 min. disc at $9.00. (26¢ a minute.) I'll stop there as otherwise it looks like music appreciation by an accountant from a phone company. But suffice to say a long more expensive disc like a Conn is probably a better bargain than a short RVG. As long as you like the extra cuts that is. A couple of short RVGs that jump out at me are Go! and Bud! Short but oh so sweet, and I would have happily paid more if that's what it took.

The small town of Jacksonville near Medford is host to the Britt Festival. Oh look, Kenny G. is coming soon! It's a wonderful outdoor venue and they do a pretty good job of booking talent. It probably helps as it's a day away for a tour from the Bay Area. That pocket of Southern Oregon has a surprising amount of culture as nearby Ashland hosts a Shakespeare Festival. Shorter was in Portland in February, Eugene in May, & now the Britt in June. I hope he doesn't get sick of us, cause he's nice to have around.

Yes the discs have the original covers and original notes. Time Out is the same 20 bit version from '97. The extra notes by Brubeck are from November 1996. Time Further Out has a 1996 copyright date. I don't see the bit rate mentioned, but the added notes by Brubeck are from August 1996. So I'm fairly certain this is the same version that predates the box. It has a smaller not-quite-as-bright yellow sticker on it by the way. Countdown: Time In Outer Space is 24 bit with mastering by Mark Wilder. It includes a short extra paragraph by Brubeck following the original notes where he adds a correction. Time Changes is 24 bit and mastered by Darcy M. Proper. In addition to the original notes are a couple of paragraphs by Brubeck from 2003. Time In is 24 bit by Darcy M. Proper. Along with the original notes is a page and a little bit more by Brubeck from 2003.

I'm beyond the initial stage as I've had it for a few months. Love the music, love the sound quality. Rather than a true box though I think of it more as a budget priced collection of 5 albums. But that's OK by me, as it helps save another $20 or so to go towards a real box set.

I picked the J.J. Johnson because that's the one I just ordered. I own the Hodges and it sounds fantastic, both in terms of the music and the mastering. But if you're in the mood for Sonny, I'd say get that one. Especially as you intend to own them all eventually.

Ah, what a voice, what artist. I can't find the exact quote, but I recall seeing him on a talk show years & years ago, maybe it was Johnny Carson. Somehow it came up that Ray contributed to a charity that sought a cure deafness. The host (had to be Johnny) noted that he thought it was interesting that a blind man would give to a deaf charity. Ray said something along the lines of "being blind is no big deal. But if I was deaf? A life without music?!"

More than 21 years ago I briefly thought Louis & Neil Armstrong were one & the same person. I thought it was really cool that an astronaut would get to play trumpet on the moon. My parents helped straighten me that they were different people. I've owned some Miles and a token Coltrane & Monk for 11 to 20. And 6 to 10 years ago I had stretches where I'd go months playing Miles and little else. For it to be more than Miles, and seriously so, I'd say fewer than 3 years. Though I'm so bad about judging the passage of time it might be 3 to 5 years. As far as spending a lot more money, about as long as I've been reading this board. So I answered 3 to 5. What was the question again?

Then you haven't noticed who did the mastering.

Mobley disc 4. Arrived today. I had intended to start with disc 1 but you how these things look alike if in your excitement you forget to read the fine print. Once the music started no way I was going to stop it & put in disc 1!

Shhhhhhhh. Uh, yeah, I have a notify me list that's probably close to 40 discs. I figure some people here must use it, as oftentimes by the time I check the "notify me" e-mail the disc is gone. I've gotten many discs that I've wanted at good prices though, and sometimes things I didn't know I wanted till I shopped around (like Konitz Meets Mulligan.) If you're patient OOP discs will pop up. I picked up a couple of Motians from the site through the notify me feature that I had inputted over a year ago. Eek, my order history is 3 pages long, so yes, I like the place and it can be addictive!

13. If I don't it buy it it might be a sign that I suffer from low self-esteem, so I'd better buy it lest some happy pill prescription cut into my CD budget. 14. Well, it's not like I have a caviar, cognac & cocaine habit. This is much cheaper. 15. I'm supporting the arts. What a wonderful good citizen I am. Dang, I should have added the Reece select to my Mobley (finally!) and Moncur order!

... which was last night! I've seen Douglas once before, but this show seemed an unusually inspired outing. The audience seemed strangely subdued, but this didn't seem to bother the band. One thing above all — Douglas's chops are getting better and better. For those that think he rides too heavily on his use of nuance and "feeling," watch out. Last night he exhibited all sorts of playing: some clearly articulated pyrotechnic 16th note runs, some Rex Stewart smearing, and that gorgeous sound. He also seemed to be in a damn good mood: "You know what I love about Eugene? That green Victorian house on the hillside. Have you been to it?" That struck me as hilarious. ... and all in a Wayne Shorter thread! I just missed seeing him at the used bookstore he mentioned (Smith Family.) Drat! It would have been fun to walk up to him and say "Excuse me, are you Elvis Costello?" As with Shorter once again I delighted at the interplay between keyboards & drums. I knew about Uri Cane's talents but Clarence Penn was something else to watch. So many subtle tricks with the different sticks and his hands. He was also the best dressed member of the band. Eugene is known for being a very casual town, and it's really struck me at the show how many jazz musicians wear very comfortable clothes nowadays. (And I don't blame them one bit.) I don't think some of these fellas could have handled the suit & tie days. I think the crowd was even smaller than last year's "Freak In" show. A couple of friends of mine got free upgrades on their balcony seats and ended up in the 4th row. I hope the small turnout doesn't dissuade him from returning, though as he's been here (I think) 4 times in 3 years maybe he'll keep coming back.

Willie Nelson, Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison & Bob Wills! Hmm, that would have made for an interesting group. And the inspiration for one of my favorite albums - Jack Johnson.