Dan Gould

A slow, lazy Sunday morning and you need to "up" this thread a scant 30 minutes after your last post? What are you afraid of exactly, Patricia? That the film will remind people of the ugliness of that day, and suddenly there will be an upswing in support for the war on terrorism? No one said that the airing of the TV film was "free" - only that it originally had a major corporate sponsor, who got spots aired at the beginning and end, and multiple "billboard" mentions during the broadcast. So it wasn't broadcast at a loss as a public service, and therefore your suggestion that admission to the movie theatre should also be free is misplaced. Furthermore, if you bothered to read what Ray has posted, and what has been reported in the media, the motion picture was made at a relatively meager cost and with "NO" concern by the studio whether that money is recouped. So in fact, the film was not made "to make money".

It should be noted that the first time that movie ran, iirc, there were NO commercial interruptions. Obviously that is not something that can be sustained subsequently. In fact, what is truly exploitative is the way the cable channel is exploiting the premier weekend of the major motion picture to show their film again. THAT is exploitation. They ought to have found another major sponsor and shown it again without commercials, to avoid the very thing you complain about.

It was undoubtedly a patriotic attempt to prevent a fourth terrorist act - they may not have known the target but they knew the outcome. That's why they acted, and it wasn't a purely self-centered act to save their own lives but also to save lives they knew were at stake somewhere on the ground. Yes, they probably had some blind hope they could land the plane but the odds of that were a 1 million to 1. The odds of overpowering the hijackers were about 40 to 4, a damn sight better. Nobody is bestowing sainthood. But they should be recognized for the way in which they died and why.

Ray makes good points but I am still not prepared to see a dramatization of these events. I think this movie is going up against some strong gut reactions against seeing these events dramatized - it will be interesting whether word of mouth can overcome that.

Looking through a list of 45s, I saw "Bad Luck" and wondered if this was in fact renamed. Either way, its cool, since I don't have the Vintage Years box anyway.

Thanks Jack. For what its worth, the B.B. King Reader has it as a given that B.B. recorded once more for the Biharis in 1965, and specifically mentions that he didn't want to record new material and share composer credits. Since the Ace reissues, and the book, came after the discography, maybe they found new info to confirm the '65 session? But regardless, I'm glad that "Bad Breaks" is in fact new and unissued on CD. I was also glad to discover that in a couple of cases, the 45s that I bought had "issued" tunes on the Crown series which turned out to be different performances, confirmed in the Crown liners. Best example is "You're Gonna Miss Me" which on the 45 is taken at a much brighter tempo than the Crown LP take. This leaves me with my next question, probably best answered by studying all of the reissue liners to see if there are any clues: Leaving aside attempts to "spruce up" old recordings with ill-advised over-dubs, are there any other worthy singles that are different from the Crown reissued takes?

Well, rather than springing for the Vintage box, which would be about 98% duplicative of what I already have, I ended up finding some mint Kent 45s to cover some of the tunes from that '65 session. In searching the shop's database, I found one that I decided to spring for, as I could find no such title in the Ace catalog: Its Kent 470, "Bad Breaks"/"Growing Old". I know that "Growing Old" appeared on King of the Blues, but after my experience with Twisting with B.B. King, can anyone reassure me that "Bad Breaks" is not one of those old tunes that were re-named? Thanks!

If it does, I'll look at my new avatar and think happy thoughts.

Glad the forum is back up, but if I were you, Jim, I'd be raising holy hell about them failing to do what was promised - and what I am sure they have been billing for. Now, to see what avatar I was using and how much I've lost ...

Yeah, I know ... its tunes like "Something" and "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You" that still gives me pause though.

A copy is up right now at $7 and there are three copies available as "buy it now" ranging from $10-13.

It has not been issued on CD to my knowledge, but I have seen it several times on ebay. I wouldn't be surprised it if it is up in an ebay seller's store as a buy-it-now. I've thought about this one before but have always been turned off by the definite appearance of "commercialness".

Thank you all!

In the meantime, could someone tell me what "IIRC" stands for? its the one web-shortcut I've never been able to figure out.

I was just repeating the preferred name that one of our European friends gave them.

I can't remember if I posted this earlier in the thread, but I got the J.J. album last year from the Andorran pirates and highly recommend it.

Thanks for posting the article, Chris. A very nice profile.

The lack of an update does have me wondering if it is something serious ...

No doubt, one of the great jazz photographers. RIP.

I have a burn from a board member. Nothing special. Edit: If you respect Jim's opinion more than mine, then by all means, go find a copy!

I hope there are others that people can add to this thread, but I had to share this perfectly great cover that whoever put out those Vanguard reissue comps weren't smart enough to leave well enough alone. I ask you, could there be a more perfect combination of album title, artist, and photo? I think not. If anyone can add other covers "lost" in the reissue program, please do.

D'oh! Obviously the clues were there. Excellent work Aric. Indeed. I guess he deserves a except for the fact that he's freaking out over the bird flu thing and going into hiding.

I would think there is no possible better way to get rid of them than on ebay, unless you are unconcerned by what you get for them and have a local dealer that will give you about a nickel per 45. Seriously, if you aren't concerned about getting a lot for them, why not just throw up the whole list as a single lot and set a reasonable opening bid on it? If there are 'good' items in there, I'll bet there are collectors who'll bid on a huge lot just to get a handful of discs.

Now this is the first message from the good "lady" that actually sounds like Aric. Here's one more test: 'contemporaryladySF": WHY was Aric once so enamored of Hank Mobley?