Dan Gould

Seems appropriate. BTW, when do y'all think I should start soliciting interest in Blindfold Test #2? I'm thinking that at the earliest, initial discussion of test #2 can overlap the end of the post-revelation discussion of #1. Should I plan on shipping my disc when Tony announces the answers, so by the time people receive and absorb test #2, test #1 will be wrapping up? If we do it that way, I would say that I can start collecting names and addresses pretty much anytime. (For those who are taking test #1, just need names, I've kept addresses on file.)

Jim R, all I can say is, I'm pleased that the elements of my guesses for #2 and #9 were accurate, as skimpy as they were. And knowing that I've only recently even heard the principles of track 9, I don't feel bad at all. One more question I'll propose to the panel-I realize that this is not a "personally administered" test, but is it supposed to be "open book"? I didn't think we were supposed to deeply investigate and audition tracks to figure things out, (and I don't know if everyone is doing this) and post our impressions/guesses. Not saying its the wrong thing, just not the approach I thought we were taking. On second thought, what the hell do I know? Do what you want!

Joe, the deal is that we will discuss here, and in about two weeks, Tony will post the answers in a new thread (so that people who want to post their impressions/guesses in this thread without seeing the answers can. ****** Well, Jim, I never liked puzzles so I took your clue, went to AMG and it took one click after that to figure it all out. Oh well ... didn't give me a eureka moment, just let me learn what it is you're talking about.

Well, for what its worth, your "clues" are p*ssing me off cause they ain't helpin' ! The thing about this thread, to me, is that people shouldn't be reading others in order to get clues or risk "ruining" the surprise. You get the disc, you listen a few times, you post your comments. Scroll past others comments, or read them carefully, but when you listen, you should jot down notes and then simply report your own impressions, regardless of what others have said ahead of you.

Rooster, may I ask when you're supposed to reveal your knowledge then? What is the point of keeping it to yourself? I've never seen a real blindfold test subject say "I know who it is but I'm not going to say." Or, "I know who it is, but if I reveal it, I'd have to kill you."

OK, now I'm confused. If we know who it is, we just say that we know? Yo no comprendo. I thought the idea is to put out the answer, known or guessed. Not to wait til Tony announces the answers and then say, "yup, that's who I knew it was." I mean, I think everyone has the integrity to post their own comments, not wait til they get the opinions of others and then use them as a crib sheet. So, Jim, please, don't hold your cards so dang close to your chest! I call. What you got?

It used to be that the start of College Football got me revved up on the Seminoles but that is a thing of the past. We'll be lucky to win the ACC, when the conference crown used to be gift-wrapped by late October. We do have a lot of returning starters on Defense and good RBs, but Rix is the worst QB in many years and he's lost the receiving targets he had. I'll be happy if the Noles: somehow win the ACC; Beat the Gators; Anyone other than the Hurricanes win it all I think the latter two are more likely than the first one.

And I thought I'd be the first Oh well, unlike Rooster, this disc pretty much threw me, big time. I've listened a couple of times, and my evaluations haven't changed, so here goes. Hope everyone else does better than I did: 1. Solo guitar track-sounds like an old recording but I have little to no clue. The obvious "name" would be Charlie Christian but really that's just a name to throw out. It was just OK-2.5 stars. 2. Goin for some bop here, I'm thinking JJ on trombone. Liked this one a bit more, 3.5 stars. 3. This tune was familiar to me but I couldn't place it. The altoist I thought of was Stitt. Also 3.5 stars. 4. Weird tune! Goes from pastoral to bordering on frantic, nary the slightest clue. 3 stars. 5. On this bopper, on the second pass, I started to wonder if this was '50s era Hank though I surely couldn't place it. 3.5 stars. 6. The piano trio tune was pretty, though not my cup of tea necessarily. After all I am the former GHF. 3 stars. 7. I dug tune number seven with the latin tinge. Maybe Jackie Mac or his descendants? I don't think its Jackie because the tone wasn't quite as sharp. 3.5 stars. 8. Hey, finally a tune I recognize! "How High The Moon". Unfortunately, jazz violin ain't my bag. The obvious "name" would be Grappelli but who knows? 2.5 stars. 9. I'm guessing this one was a 70s or later recording. Other than that, nary a clue and also not my bag especially. 2.5 stars. 10. The big band cut-was it Lovano on tenor? Pretty good-3 stars. 11. My notes say "no clue" "really no clue" so I'll summarize by saying "no clue". I did like it though-3.5 stars. 12. My first instinct said that this is one of Bobby Hutcherson's "HAAG" dates (Half-Assed Avante Guard for those unfamiliar with the Lon-coined expression) but then I started to wonder whether its from one of the more progressive Blue Note artists of the last few years-you know, the guy's Rooster likes Oh yeah, 2.5 stars. 13. Once again, nary a clue, three stars for the performance. 14. On first listen, I thought I recognized it as a Monk tune, and to whatever credit I deserve, on second listen, I grabbed the "Town Hall" recording and immediately ID'd it as "Little Rootie Tootie". Not Monk though. That's the artist I'm identifying-the universe of Not Monk. I figure I got a pretty good shot at being right. 3 stars. So, like I said, very tough, some tunes were good, some tunes less so, but none made me want to set the CD back and listen again.

Actually, I think Bertrand or Mike Fitzgerald has spoken of someone who might be working on one, or was that Morgan? Anyway, there's some info from a Jazztimes article that had some interesting comments from Don Sickler, the liners to A Slice of the Top have some info too, and there was also a DB interview, I want to say it was in the late 70s but maybe it was earlier than that? To my understanding, Hank's health deteriorated a great deal, in particular he had lung problems that limited his ability to play and probably limited his playing when he could. On top of that his addictions did get the better of him as time wore on. One story that Sickler tells is sad, that he would kick the drugs but had to compensate with alcohol, but when he was clean, he was smart and incisive and showed sparks of his old playing. (Hope I got all that right, none of it is in front of me right now. But a good indication of Hank's deterioration is in the picture that accompanied the Tete Montoliu CD where he appears on one, CD only, bonus cut. Hank looks significantly older and grayer than he had at the start of the decade.

Does anyone know what the "book" is for this one in this condition? Is it supposed to go for more than a thousand bucks? Its interesting that its taken so many bids to get to this point, and its still below the reserve. I would think that if there's a similarity between book value and the reserve, someone would have bid it by now. Maybe Atomic Records wants too much for it?

I think they were considered co-leaders but when it came out on Dorn's label I found it under Walton.

Was that before or after he slugged the Clemson player?

metres and centimetres? Dots and commas? I wouldn't be so quick to presume normalcy, my friend!

Jazz may move away from the blues but I feel that if it goes too far away it will stop being jazz. Jazz comes from the blues. But in the end, modern jazz has little allure for me, so where it "goes" is not really of that much concern, frankly. That may mark me as living in the past, but for me, there's lots and lots of good music back there!

Now that I remember what BMI is, there t'ain't no way I'm calculating it, let alone sharing it!

Damn, I knew I'd forgotten one ...

Since it seems like quite a few of us are fighting the battle of the bulge, which is it that gets you in trouble the most? What's your favorite? For me I tend to fall on the sweets side, though not so much candy as ice cream-especially Baskin Robbins Peanut butter chocolate.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the inaugural Organissimo Blindfold Test has left the building! Fortunately for all concerned, Dr. J. provided enough $$ that no further assistance will be needed, unless there are latecomers inspired by this announcement. Daniel A. still needs to provide me his mailing address. Just in case I somehow missed someone, the following members have discs en route: Peter Johnson JSangrey relyles pryan Rooster Ties JimR. Noj b3-er Jim Dye Jazzmoose couw Brad Gary Initial discussion will go in this thread. After approximately two weeks, Dr. J. will post the answers in a new thread "Blindfold Test #1 - Answers and Further Discussion" so that people who are slow to take the "test" can still post without inadvertently finding out the answers. Use or B3-er, perhaps we need a new Forum for the Blindfold Tests?

My one ironclad requrement is the least possible illumination (usually augmented with a pillow over my head anyway). I do a lot of shifting and I've also begun to snore on occasion, and my wife is a light sleeper to begin with, so she's the one who suffers. I, on the other hand, could easily sleep through a nuclear holocaust.

Well, y'all know my opinion.

Be interesting to see what these go for. I noticed a funky cover of "Grant's First Stand" in there.

I'll bet many of you got this e-mail today: *************** Blue Note Records New Release Update ******************************** Rudy Van Gelder reissues ********************* All titles in the RVG Edition are remastered in 24 bit by legendary engineer Rudy Van Gelder. New RVGs include Art Blakey- Indestructible; Dexter Gordon- Our Man In Paris; Grant Green- Grantstand; Horace Silver- Horace Silver Trio; Sonny Rollins- Volume 1 and John Coltrane- Blue Trane. Upcoming RVGs include Joe Henderson- Mode or Joe; Jackie McLean- Let Freedom Ring; Lee Morgan- Search For The New Land; Bud Powell- The Scene Changes and Wayne Shorter- Adam’s Apple. Click The Link for audio samples or to view or purchase all titles in the RVG Edition http://www.BlueNote.com/RVG ******************* One of my pet peeves is people calling Blue Trane but what can you do when the label itself makes the same mistake? Really sad.

Sure, John, send Paul in search of a CD that it took me two months and the gracious help of a couple of European board members before I tracked it down! Me and Greg kissing and making up might be easier to engineer! (Actually its a great suggestion, just not an easy one to find, which is a real shame.)

Paul, Billy recorded a great deal with the Cedar Walton Trio as well as with Eastern Rebellion. One of my favorite live jazz memories is seeing in person why he was called "Smilin' Billy". He truly lit up the stage! I'll have to check, but in Art Taylor's book Notes and Tones doesn't Billy talk about his belief that the drums are like a woman and should be made love to?

Thanks for the info, guys. When I realized Jim has a copy I tried to contact the seller to cancel the order but I doubt I caught him in time, so now I'll have a decision to make, whether to send the LP back when it arrives or go ahead and open it. I don't know-somehow the idea of minute long tracks isn't all that appealing. But maybe I can turn it around on ebay and actually clear some cash out of it.