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This is true for some older jazz fans whom I know too. I mentioned the Three Sounds to my aunt who is a lifelong jazz fan, and she had never heard of them. Perhaps Blue Note didn't sell them into Europe, and perhaps concentrated on other audiences?

Thanks! Shannon Jackson & The Decoding Society – Nasty (Moers, 1981)

Weldon Irvine - Sinbad (RCA)

Max Roach, Herb Geller, Walter Benton, Joe Maini, Clifford Brown– Best Coast Jazz I’m not sure I know who Joe Maini and Walter Benton were.

I liked the first track most. But even then it’s nothing that we haven’t heard before. The later tracks are just jam standard with quite a lot of audible mistakes.

Strata. Edited.

Maulawi – Orotunds Recent ish reissue of an obscure Strata thing. Not really digging it. I feel like there are hundreds of records that I would have reissued before this one.

I think it is streamable. I don't own it. Those MPSs are out of my price range for the most part.

Another set that I'd have just classed as "jazz", even if electric. The dividing line makes little sense sometimes, I guess.

You're quite right. My error.

Ah ha! Thank you.

On yeah. Mr Hands is actually a good record. I forgot that one. Magic Windows I don't know.

Mind meld. I think that MPS and SABA, as well as having some of the first examples of jazz rock or fusion, also consistently put out some of my favourite fusion records.

We picked a few matches. Some others I will definitely look into.

What are the Herbie's from the 1980s that you like? I love Steps' first few, but would have never have used the F word for them.

Some others that I like: Association PC - Erna Morenta Attila Zoller and Masahiko Sato - A Path Through Haze Charlie Mariano - Helen 12 Trees Rolf and Joachim Kuhn - Transfiguration Eddy Louis's - Our Kind of Sabi George Duke - The Aura Will Prevail Martial Solal - Nothing But Piano Oscar Peterson - Walking the Line Braxton, Hampel and Lee - Familie Hannibal Marvin Peterson - Hannibal John Tchicai - Afrodisiaca Yosuke Yamashita - Chiasma Kenny Clarke / Francy Boland Big Band - Sax No End Smoke - Everything Solal, Konitz, Scofield and Pedersen - Four Keys Volker Kriegel - Spectrum It is hard to think of any other label that could have released that range of records.

It was actually this record that made me think about starting this thread.

He's not alone. A lot of the interviewees in that book are very very bitter. But I think that Griffin comes across and the angriest.

Thanks. These are all good suggestions. I find that as soon as Allan Holdsworth or whoever starts doodling away I just lose interest.

Johnny Griffin – Lady Heavy Bottom's Waltz (Vogue, 1969) I was largely drawn to this, to which I am listening for the first time, by the funny title. It's from 1969, so about the time that Griffin gave the very angry interview that is in Notes and Tones. Interesting to hear the kind of music that he was making at that time, which is almost self-consciously of the previous generation. It must have been a miserable time to be a straight ahead jazz musician at the top of his or her craft.

What are your views on it? I don't think his name has come up. He's not on any Swedish records I have listened to. I don't follow. I tried Googling "Jazz on Jupiter" but just got the manga series Cowboy Bebop.

I think that there are a couple of threads about recent reissues of MPS and SABA material, but nothing concentrated on the labels themselves. Surely some of the most interesting labels in terms of variety of output. They cover fusion, free jazz and straight bop, and often the strange bits in-between. Lots of records by both US and European artists. So, what are your thoughts on the labels and what for you are the stand out releases on MPS and SABA?

I was so obsessed with Sings as a student. Burton Green scraping away.

Black and Blue has been one of my biggest discoveries of this year, courtesy of this board. What a label.

Great stuff. Art house brassiere. “The Twist?! The Surf!”.