ghost of miles

WHAT 2-CD Erskine Hawkins set? See, you really are from the dark side, B! Repent, repent! I'll think of you, brother, when I say my prayers this week, and will make a donation to the JFK campaign in your name. :rsmile:

I've got the Miles box--is that the only place where you can find those sides with Lee? One of the many things I like about this board is its general love and respect for Konitz. Lately I've been wanting to start a thread about his big-band recordings, because I'm thinking about doing a show based around them. I have nearly all of the later Thornhill recordings, and the Kenton CD SKETCHES ON STANDARDS, which contains four very good LK solos--any other suggestions? In the Cadence catalogue there are listings for two big-band dates with which I'm not familiar.

You mean the crap version of "Just the Way You Are"? Yeah, I'd been pleasantly surprised by the CD up to that point, and then that came along... I suppose I've never warmed up to Krall because her albums have always struck me as the epitome of stylized jazz--a certain "mood" or tone or feeling that isn't really a feeling, but a sort of aesthetic pose. As a singer and a musican she doesn't lack for technique, but she's always come off to me as music for a middlebrow HBO 90's noir flick... That's why I'm so curious to hear this new record, which sounds as if it's informed by some pretty heavy real-life experience, and which also has the hand of Mr. Costello in it.

You beat me to it, Mule. I get the L.A. Weekly via e-mail and was going to post this today as well. Their music writing is often quite good.

Joe, I'm ordering the UK version because it contains an extra track, "I'll Never Be the Same," a song I've always liked, and that had been running through my head a couple of days before I read the ICE article. Your remarks go along with my hunch (believe me, I've never been a Krall fan before, even if LIVE IN PARIS softened me just a bit in her favor). Weird irony: her mother died of myeloma cancer, the same cancer that hit my mom, and my original post in this thread pre-dated my mother's quite sudden, unexpected death by three days. So, unfortunately, the album may have much more resonance for me now. Sometimes I think that artists who get ridiculous hype end up getting undercredited as well. Perhaps Krall will prove to be one of those artists.

Read Sherri Tucker's SWING SHIFT instead.

Do any of you guys have misgivings about Bonds' probable breaking of the record? Should it be marked with a "supplemental" asterisk? Seriously, though, where does baseball--where do all professional sports, in fact--draw the line when it comes to performance enhancement?

I remember watching it too, Chrome! I saw the Saturday afternoon game when he tied the record, and the Monday night game (correct?) when he broke it. I was 8 then--remember the "Oh Henry" candybar ads? But how long till Barry "Booster" Bonds overtakes him? Aaron played briefly for an Indianapolis team called the Clowns before signing with the Braves. I'm thinking about proposing an article about it to our state's historical magazine. It would be cool if I could interview Aaron himself for the piece!

BFrank, I've wanted to do that Hammett walking tour for years. I love SF--maybe the wife & I should come out & try to hook up with the Moose for a go at it. Is the grill where Spade eats still open? I know it was in the early 1980s... Speaking of Moose, I read Mildred Pierce for the first time last year and really liked it. Cain doesn't always get his due, IMO... Sonic Youth titled an instrumental after the book on their 1990 album GOO. Just finished John le Carre's THE HONOURABLE SCHOOLBOY and am currently reading Lewis Erenberg's SWINGIN' THE DREAM: BIG BAND JAZZ AND THE REBIRTH OF AMERICAN CULTURE.

"Poor Eric" has been a great favorite of mine ever since I picked up the McLean Mosaic--I'm sure it sounds even better on the new RVG. A local CD store has been having a jazz blow-out sale, so I picked up a few Fantasy titles yesterday (still living in fear of what will happen to the catalogue once the company finds a buyer): Blue Mitchell, BIG SIX Roy Haynes, WE THREE Coleman Hawkins, THE HAWK FLIES HIGH Mark Murphy, THAT'S HOW I LOVE THE BLUES

I'm holding off till the Herman set comes out--then I'm binging by buying it and the four most recent Selects.

Anybody else catch the Bloomington show? I thought it was great... Here's the set-list: 1. I Love You (Cole Porter) 2. Watermelon Man 3. Dolphin Dance--extended suite 4. Canteloupe Island Encore: 5. Maiden Voyage All of the pieces very extended, by the way. For me, the star of the evening was Terri Lynne Carrington. What an amazing drummer! She and Scott Colley worked very well together. It was heartening to see a jazz audience that was so diverse in age, pretty much from teenagers to people in their 70s. Some of the younger fans got on my nerves after awhile, because they kept yelling "'Chameleon! Canteloupe Island!'" etc., etc. (In response to a shouted request for "Rockit," Hancock reached into the piano and plucked it for a few moments on the piano strings.) Gary Thomas had some fine moments, but seemed a bit lone-wolfish at times. However, I think this might have been in response to the one disturbing moment of the evening. It came during Hancock's long, relaxed, chatty monologue with the audience before the quartet had started to play. He introduced Thomas as an "educator" (said with just a hint of smiling disdain), and then said, "I'm suprised Gary didn't bring a cup out with him. I know the place where he teaches needs more funding, so I thought he'd be roaming up and down the aisles here with a cup, asking for money." Frankly, it was kind of humiliating for Thomas. He gave a sheepish smile but looked pissed off the rest of the night. Either Herbie was making a very ill-advised joke, or he was engaging in some perversion of a Miles tactic, riling up a band-member (but didn't Miles do it privately? Whispering to Cannonball & Coltrane about the other, etc.?) It was the one unpleasant aspect of an otherwise very enjoyable evening.

Is that a bottle-opener or a bubble-blower? Or both?! Fun for Dad and the kids!

I might follow the path of "burn-before-you-return!"

John, I was going off the original album liner notes, which are printed (in small type) near the back of the booklet. The descriptions therein seem to indicate two different songs. I will listen to both tracks again tonight when I get home and re-check the liners. I also like both versions (one has a slower, moodier feel to it), but they strike me as very much the same song, and the titles were sequenced only one track apart on the original LP. That's why I find it difficult to believe, in this instance, that they are the two different songs that they're supposed to be. Perhaps Rhino's response to Hans will clarify matters. Believe me, I hope I'm wrong--I don't want to have to return the CD all over again!

he he I missed this the first time through, what time is the party? S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y, NIGHT! After the flood, evidently!

So your tracks #5 and #7 are different songs, Lon, and not different takes of "Baby Please?" Yes, everything else about the CD is indeed fantastic! I need to pick up the second Specialty CD--already have POET OF THE BLUES.

Judging from this thread, I'd say Lon, Joe, and Jim have all got it, so I'll be curious to find out if their copies have the same defect.

They pressed only 2500 copies--wonder how many of them have this problem? Say they all do. Does that mean Rhino has to re-do the whole run?

I think it's #1959. Good suggestion about the ICE--I used to read that column all the time. Thanks.

Kulu, I didn't even listen to the first CD--never opened it because it had the wrong jacket/liners, so I don't know. I thought perhaps "Never Say Naw" was simply an earlier version of "Baby Please," but a quick glance at the original album notes in the back of the booklet seems to confirm that they are indeed two separate songs. I'm still trying to decide whether to even contact Rhino about it, since I've already thrown out the return label (surely lightning wouldn't strike twice, etc.--I'll never do that again). I probably will, but I'm very frustrated with them right now.

Friday: swap identities with father for wacky Disney-esque hijinks. Saturday: party with Bay City Rollers. Sunday: attend church/Irish riot.

All right, frustration continues. I got the replacement CD, with the correct jacket/liners, and immediately put it in my player. Soundin' great, yeah, yeah, I recycled the cardboard and tore up the return label.... Later I discover that track #5, which is supposed to be "Never Say Naw," appears to be an alternate take of track #7, "Baby Please." Has anybody else experienced this problem with this CD? Does anybody have a correct copy that they'd be willing to CD-R in exchange for a copy of my "rarity," with this mysterious alternate take? I have the utmost respect for the Handmade series, but right now it's living up to its name in a different manner of speaking.

Got this recently, Johnny, and will be featuring it sometime next month along with ALL MUSIC--another covert Organissimo board show! I'll post a link when I know the exact date; right now I'm leaning towards April 21.

Rooster, just found out I'm going to get to see Herbie's quartet here in Bloomington, the night before the Columbia concert. Ain't we a lucky pair?