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A very fun show, rather sparsely attended, alas. I liked all 3 bands actually, and Reptet did put on a great show. Good to meet you Johnnie! I look forward to listening to the CD as well. Isaak seems pretty crazy...

Looking forward to tonight at Safari Sam's!

On the first point, that is what I meant; sorry for erring on the chronology. It took the steroid era for fans to forgive the strike. In other words, the steroid era made everyone happy again - fans, owners (with more fans = more $), players (more fans = more $), press, etc. On teh second point, sure, fans can reject the accomplishments, but what does that really matter? The seasons are done, we know the stats.

What are people going to do when they decide to acknowledge that virtually every pro football player is on some sort of steroid or other drug? Oh, wait, I think people don't really care. So why do they care about baseball? I think most sports fans don't care if some athletes are using steroids. I think most fans aren't too concerned about the long-term health of athletes either. They see the trade-off as being the massive wealth and sexual access that athletes get. End of story. What baseball should do is legalize steroids but regulate. Each team is allowed 5 juiced players, for example, to even the field across teams, but still allow for big exciting superstars. What do you all think? That would make everyone happy.

Strictly speaking, if we are concerned about the future health of our athletes, we should ban football completely. It seems like all pro football players have incredible physical ailments for the rest of their lives. The simple fact is that baseball players get paid so much in order to be tools for public pleasure, the objects of our desire and disdain, not to live healthy happy lives for the rest of their days. I think professional sports are so completely bastardized now that it doesn't matter if people take steroids. People love watching pumped up players with extreme statistics. People who thrilled to the Sosa-McGwire chase, Clemens incredible later years, Gagne's great years, etc are hypocritical if they are now shocked (Shocked!) over hearing that they were using. The simple fact is, people enjoyed the sport more because the players were using drugs. Heck, they very quickly forgave the strike and attended in larger numbers than ever. Why would anyone (baseball, owners, fans, players) have had any reason to oppose steroids in the late 90s and early 00s? Guess I'm cynical today.

Is there a good compilation (I don't need completion)(and it's probably on Ace) of these British r 'n r acts before they got tamed?

I'm not sure if it matters on the human rights side, but i do think that circumcised men lose sensitivity over time. Unfortunately.

I have the Rhino compilation from at least a decade ago. It serves me all right, but the Ace one seems to be better. A

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I don't think they would be shutting down, nor do I think would they face any issues in Europe - just US distribution. In the US these reissues violate copyright law, and are illegal.

Just want to give denizens of Southern California a early heads up. The Silent movie Theatre now shows more than silent movies, and will be having a jazz film series in Jan-February. They are showing a bit more mainstream - "Jazz on a Summer's Day," "Straight, no Chaser," etc., At Filmforum, which I program, I will be screening films on the more avant side. Thus far it looks like I will screen Ron Mann's Imagine the Sound" on Sunday February 10, which features Cecil Taylor, Paul Bley, Bill Dixon, and Archie Shepp. Still figuring out another for later in February. I've also worked with the folks at the Silent Movie Theatre to arrange a co-presented screening of Shirley Clarke's film "Ornette: Made in America" which should be at the SMT on February 7. More details to come. www.lafilmforum.org www.silentmovietheatre.com

Posted the same in one of the Lonehill threads, and email from Jazz Loft, who seem to be unloading their illegal imports... Classic Jazz Import Blowout!! 40-50% OFF THESE CLASSIC JAZZ IMPORTS. Quanties are limited. First come first serve. Order as many as you like! THESE LABELS ARE ON SALE UNTIL SOLD OUT! QUANTITIES LIMITED TO STOCK ON HAND... Lonehill Jazz Clifford Brown, Art Pepper, Eric Dolphy, Buddy DeFranco, Bill Evans, Art Farmer, Lee Morgan, Gerry Mulligan, Clark Terry, Sarah Vauhan and more! Gambit Cecil Taylor, Chet Baker, Art Blakey, Betty Carter, Donald Byrd, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane and more! Definitive Louis Armstrong, Mildred Bailey, Chet Baker, Gerry Mulligan, Ruby Braff, Count Basie, Thelonious Monk, Coleman Hawkins, Earl Hines, Johnny Hodges and more! Jazz Factory Serge Charloff, Rosemary Clooney, Miles Davis, Lou Donaldson, Art Pepper and more! Was $14.99-29.99 Now $7.99-14.99!

Got this email: Classic Jazz Import Blowout!! 40-50% OFF THESE CLASSIC JAZZ IMPORTS. Quanties are limited. First come first serve. Order as many as you like! THESE LABELS ARE ON SALE UNTIL SOLD OUT! QUANTITIES LIMITED TO STOCK ON HAND... Lonehill Jazz Clifford Brown, Art Pepper, Eric Dolphy, Buddy DeFranco, Bill Evans, Art Farmer, Lee Morgan, Gerry Mulligan, Clark Terry, Sarah Vauhan and more! Gambit Cecil Taylor, Chet Baker, Art Blakey, Betty Carter, Donald Byrd, Ornette Coleman, John Coltrane and more! Definitive Louis Armstrong, Mildred Bailey, Chet Baker, Gerry Mulligan, Ruby Braff, Count Basie, Thelonious Monk, Coleman Hawkins, Earl Hines, Johnny Hodges and more! Jazz Factory Serge Charloff, Rosemary Clooney, Miles Davis, Lou Donaldson, Art Pepper and more! Was $14.99-29.99 Now $7.99-14.99! This implies to me that someone is cracking down, and that Jazz Loft at least won't be carrying the illegal labels anymore.

Use some extra for some studio time for Organissimo to record a few more tunes...

I donated $20, which I had been remiss in doing. A minuscule amount given the amount of time I spend on this marvelous board. I hope a solution can be found that will allow it to continue while giving Jim the space and time he needs. As a volunteer director of a non-profit, I can appreciate the number of hours that it claims. People do simply get burned out. I wonder why this board is better than AAJ or JC, but it just is. Thank you Jim for creating such a great place to hang out.

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=1659 Did anyone here see the performance of this score in September 2003? Might try to arrange its performance in Los Angeles.

No sign of those In Newport albums for me in my searches on Your Music today. Also noticed that the Billie Holiday Columbia sets that were in my cart are now gone, so Columbia must have pulled them.

It looks like they all just closed an hour ago - ah well, and most for $10-15 for 4 or 5 books. Ah, well, I woudl have gone for one or two of those lots.

up because i still think this is in my top three of favorite jazz LPs

up for the heck of it

guess no one has it.

It was a lovely ride, but it seems like no one is contributing any more (myself included). Is it dead, or maybe just resting until 2008?

Hi all, This Sunday Los Angeles Filmforum presents two documentaries about Los Angeles jazz legends Ernie Andrews and Clora Bryant. It appears that both Clora Bryant and Ernie Andrews will be present! ----- Sunday, November 18, 7:00 pm At the Spielberg Theatre at the Egyptian Theatre 6712 Hollywood Blvd. at Las Palmas www.lafilmforum.org Los Angeles Filmforum presents "Trumpetistically, Clora Bryant" and "Ernie Andrews: Blues for Central Avenue" In association with the Getty Research Institute's Côte à Côte: Art and Jazz in France and California. http://www.getty.edu/visit/events/cote_a_cote.html We're delighted to host these portraits of the musicians Clora Bryant and Ernie Andrews, essential players in the jazz scene of Los Angeles. For its first public screening in Los Angeles in many years, we are delighted to screen "Ernie Andrews: Blues for Central Avenue" (1987, 50 min, screening on DVCam) Produced and directed by Lois Shelton With Ernie Andrews, Dolores Andrews, Buddy Collette, Harry (Sweets) Edison and others. Followed by "Trumpetistically, Clora Bryant" by Zeinabu irene Davis (2004, 55 min., DVcam) LA Weekly review of "Ernie Andrews; Blues for Central Avenue": "Beautifully produced, directed and edited by Lois Shelton, Ernie Andrews: Blues for Central Avenue is a crucial document about L.A., as well as a touching portrait of the man. Ernie Andrews is a superb Jazz singer who, 40 years ago, was one of the lights of the Central Avenue scene. In those days, L.A.'s Central Avenue was a match for New York's 52nd Street and New Orleans' Latin Quarter as the hottest jazz and party scene in the country -- hard to believe considering the city as we know it now. The racism that still divides L.A. was much more blatant then. Shelton shows us some headlines of the times ("Court Reviews Right of Negroes To Live in Their Own Homes," "White Policeman Jails Man for Walking With Negro Friend"). It was a racism that finally spelled doom for the scene. "Against this backdrop we see the life and friends of Singer Ernie Andrews. Andrews is, if anything, a better singer now than he was then --the fullness and control of his voice can be breathtaking -- and the film lets us hear him at length. But its heart is the contrast between the strong man singing and the worn, wounded man speaking. Here we see "history" not as a word or a doctrine, but as something a man must breathe and which, like polluted air, scars you from the inside out. When Andrews says, "We got what we wanted, but we wrecked what we loved," he seems to be speaking from the heart of what America has meant -- though he cops no pleas and takes the burden of his fate squarely on himself. His dignity and, above all, his art, make this documentary shine." -- Michael Ventura, LA Weekly AWARDS: CINE Gold Eagle; First place Anthropos festival, USC; Silver medal, Houston International Film Festival; Honorable Mention, Prized Pieces. BROADCAST HISTORY: 1987-89: KCET; WNET; Discovery Channel; The Learning Channel. Followed by "Trumpetistically, Clora Bryant" by Zeinabu irene Davis (2004, 55 min., DVcam) Zeinabu Irene Davis's new film "Trumpetistically, Clora Bryant" portrays the life and work of "trumpetiste" Clora Bryant, a largely unrecognized force in the Los Angeles and Central Avenue jazz scenes. "The odds were stacked against Clora Bryant: she was a woman; she was black; and she was playing a "man's instrument" - the trumpet. Yet she paved her way onto the Los Angeles jazz scene during the 1940s and 50s, and became known as a skilled trumpet player, performing with Dizzy Gillespie, Louis Armstrong, Cab Calloway, Billie Holiday and Ella Fitzgerald. A multi-faceted cinematic portrait, the film pays homage to the career of a courageous woman." ˆ Berenice Reynaud "Zeinabu irene Davis's films explore and celebrate the black female body and female experiences not treated by mainstream cinema." ˆ Literature Film Quarterly Clora Bryant One of the last living musicians of the Be-Bop jazz era is a 75-year old woman who mentors the next generation of jazz players. Clora Bryant toured with Billie Holiday, and she is the only woman trumpet player who ever recorded with Dizzy Gillespie and played with Charlie Parker. Though she was honored last May at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., Bryant has never become well known to the general public. Despite a heart attack and quadruple bypass surgery in 1996 that left her unable to play her trumpet, Bryant continues to exert her influence on the world of jazz. She still sings and lectures on jazz history at several Los Angeles-area colleges. She also mentors several young female jazz musicians, encouraging, inspiring and teaching them. Bryant says the younger generation needs to learn from older players, as she did from greats like Duke Ellington, Count Basie, and Louis Armstrong. "When I grew up there were legends everywhere, and now the legends don't make themselves available to young people anymore∑these days people just get in their limos and away they go, and it hurts my heart." ------------ -------- Tickets are $9 general;, $6 students, seniors over 65. Free for Filmforum members. Cash and checks only! ****Tickets only available at the door, CASH AND CHECK ONLY, but we will take reservations through the email address until Saturday night, and hold all reservations until 6:45 pm.*** Filmforum is selling memberships! They get you into shows for free! $50 single/$75 double. Again, cash or check only. Inquire at the door, or send us an email at lafilmforum@yahoo.com Parking validation at the Hollywood & Highland parking complex. Park four hours for $2 with validation. Free street parking also generally available. The theatre is two blocks from the Metro Red Line station at Hollywood & Highland. **For full and up-to-date information, please visit our website at www.lafilmforum.org or email us at lafilmforum@yahoo.com ** ***For a complete listing of alternative films in Los Angeles, check www.filmradar.com Los Angeles Filmforum is the city's longest-running organization dedicated to weekly screenings of experimental film, documentaries, and video art. This is our 31st year! Filmforum is also raising funds. Sponsor a whole season for only $5000, or become a member for $50, or anything in between. We're also looking for a Sony DSR-11 video deck, which plays mini-DV and DV-Cam, PAL and NTSC tapes. Filmforum is a 501©3 non-profit organization which means your fiscal donations are fully tax deductible. Coming Soon to Filmforum: December 2 - Films by Robert Nelson, part 1 - at the Echo Park Film Center December 9 - The Documentaries of Jessica Yu - at the Egyptian Theatre December 16 - Films by Robert Nelson, part 2 - at the Egyptian Theatre

Although I think that I can guarantee that I won't be going to a McDonald's while in Amsterdam.

Thanks! That would be really nice to see one of two of those shows. David Murray hasn't been in LA for some time. Not familiar with YARON HERMAN TRIO nor WOLFERT BREDERODE QUARTET. Can anyone here provide input?