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Having listened to Mats live and on record since the late 1990s, I'm positive he can.

sweet. Can't wait. And it is a legit CD, seems like, if it is being released by the Dutch Jazz Archive.

yeah, Mats can do whatever he wants in my opinion. Not all of it do I like but I do respect it & him. I don't think that a Hegelian progressivism towards free music is necessarily realistic, because many of the progenitors of "free jazz" came up in parallel to a lot of post-bop musicians. For example, Bill Dixon was only eight years Dizzy's junior and was five years older than Ornette. I think it is indeed a different branch of the same tree but the latter certainly includes Bostic and Jeep, and I know that Mats internalizes everything he hears whether or not it's beyond obvious from phrase arc to phrase arc.

Borbetomagus - Snuff Jazz - (Agaric, US)

yeah, have you listened to much of his music? Of course he can carry a tune. But the point of his music is not whether he can or can't play melody in the traditional sense. I mean, you don't have to like it to agree that it's music and that he's setting out to do what he wants to do.

yes. I've heard him do beautiful renditions of Lars Gullin compositions on baritone. But honestly, this music is well past the idea that one has to be able to copy the historical standard bearers of capital J-Jazz note for note in order to ensure the validity of their work. If Albert Ayler had been content to be Cleveland's "Little Bird" do you think he would've rewritten the rules of making music? If Bill Dixon had been all right with copying Diz licks, would he have helped to organize the Jazz Composers' Guild and shepherded new directions in improvisation and dance? I don't get bummed out listening to later Spontaneous Music Ensemble CDs thinking "well, yeah, but why didn't John Stevens just stick to that tinka-ting like Phil Seamen?" Sure he could DO the thing but I'd rather hear him be John Stevens.

figure only Johnny Hodges plays Johnny Hodges.

I've been meaning to check out Heron Oblivion. Meg was in Espers back in the day, which was a pretty cool and interesting band at the time.

I'd be fine with Cees See as well; he's an excellent drummer and was later in Manfred Schoof's New Jazz Trio with the late bassist Peter Trunk. Bennink played a number of these kinds of gigs and came by hardbop quite honestly. There's video of him with Johnny Griffin and recordings with him backing people like Dexter Gordon, Sonny Rollins and Don Byas. The Rollins gig from Arnhem (1967) is phenomenal.

If they were completely hammered for those prices I would believe it. I've pissed away more money at a bar...

7+

Uh, I think you might be mistaken. He's pretty all over the map as you can see, not just free jazz and experimental music -- Gil Mellé, JR Monterose, Clifford Jordan... plus a lot of very in-the-pocket Scandinavian jazz.

it's a great set. Have had 2 copies before.

I don't know what Mats' plans are but wouldn't be surprised if it forms the backbone of a Darmstadt-like situation.

nah, I've got about 5k (counted for insurance purposes) and he has way, way more. I'd assume closer to 10k and no, we're not seeing all of it in those photos. those Bells variations and the multiple ICP 001s give me the quakes.

The guy who seems to run the education department had been following Allen's music & writing, and they struck up a conversation which turned into this series. That's how I understand it, anyway. FWIW he's (I assume it's the same person) also had Schaap and Ben Young teach/lecture/play recordings over the years.

So far I haven't noticed any...?

The Morgan doc screened briefly here in NY at Anthology Film Archives; unfortunately for some reason I missed it. Surely it'll be back (the same director did the Ayler film some years ago). I didn't know about the Grant Green documentary.

Not sure where to put this (jazz education?) but mods could move it... Anyway, Allen Lowe is giving a four-part listen and lecture series at JALC here in New York. The first one focused on ragtime, gospel, country and minstrel music and was last night (Feb. 1). The next installation (modern jazz evolution) is at 7 PM on March 1. April and May dates are TBD. Allen is a great, loose and conversational lecturer and the musical examples were stunning. I recommend this series highly. These events are free for all and it occurs at the education room on the 5th floor of the 60th/B'way JALC/Dizzy's building.

huh. Dunno why I couldn't find 45-777 before when I was hunting around.

Yeah, I saw that going around on social media in December. Sad news -- excellent player. There are too many departures going around to keep track.

I keep a lot of weird rare stuff that I don't play a whole lot. Someone needs to... right? The band on that Dempsey looks interesting, and I've never seen it before. Even if it's lame I'd probably buy one to check it out if I saw it.

weird. That's not even in the Prestige 7" catalog on jazzdisco.org. there's an edited version (I think) that came out presumably a bit later: https://www.discogs.com/Miles-Davis-Dig-Its-Only-A-Paper-Moon/release/8501591

I'm not a fan of Salina either and grew up just a couple hours east.

Sorry to hear that. I think I do remember her.