clifford_thornton

Athearn is the way to go. I'm down to Atlas. Yes, the EMD demo SD-24 is really nice-looking. They do an excellent job. I haven't modeled trains since High School - used to be very into the Rock Island and Missouri Pacific.

And you ain't "dogshit" !

Anybody heard Joe Giardullo's Red Morocco (Rogue Art, 2007) ? One of only two large ensemble recordings by this very interesting saxophonist (he's got some great solo discs). Listening to it right now.

I have his head in my freezer. There, I've said it and I don't care WHO knows! Well, you ARE a trombone player...

Congratulations, aloc!

Athearn is the way to go.

Well, not to sound petty, but have you listened to any of the people he trumpets? I know Chuck and Larry are way keyed-in to the Chicago scene(s), and I've heard probably only a smidgen of recent vanguard music of that area comparatively. That said, I think they're quite right. As I and others have said, if you really like music, you'll wade into it deeply.

I think you're taking Clem's posts a lot more personally than you need to. He does make one think. (edit: for Alexander)

I mean, I'm just pointing out that if one digs, even in the crap-bin that is NPR, one can still find "decent" stuff. I mean, yeah, four bits on J Redman is not excused by a lil' bit on Dave Burrell, but I'm just sayin'... Didn't know that FD was her husband or that he wrote anything about the America catalog. My pick is the Emergency LP, but...

Roswell Rudd Dave Burrell Iggy Redux Not my favorite band, but... Not Bad...

Yeah, thas' where I'm at too. Shit.

I know NOTHING about the kind of electronic beat music you listen to. But didn't Squarepusher use like Evan Parker on one of its discs?

see --> HERE which drastically warps the retail, 'institutional' perception of shit v. shinola... not even techno Warp. Yeah, I mean that on uh, paper, looks shall we say, "thin." And I feel two sentiments here, myself: "so what, NPR is irrelevant" and "damn, the Houston jazz concert series will use this to base their programming for the next five years." I think Atavistic either did or will reissue the Big Black tape on DVD among a few others. I think I may have lucked out on seeing a few of these (SY, Flaming Lips) in my high school days, but Topeka was NOT Lawrence. "Long Stockings (for Barbara Ess)" - CT

I understand that you like these pressings, but clearly that gouge in that picture is not a minor flaw and all of the problems people are having with these $50 pressings is bad for business. Jee-zus.

And oh yeah, what does NPR have to do with ANYTHING? (except that Kevin Whitehead talked about John Tchicai once)

But DUDE - first, all that punk shit you're talking about has a direct analog in the DIY-jazz-underground of the very period you're talking about. Why do you think people like Thurston Moore were so inspired by Arthur Jones and Frank Lowe and Ak-Ba and all that? And there were/are a lot of cats self-producing raw underground improvised music in the wake of the "OG" shit - look through the North Country Distribution pages to get a snippet of at least some of that. It's not thee mainstream (never was), and by the same token I don't think most people who bought Nebraska ever heard of Alan Vega. And Elektra always put out better white-kid protest music than ESP. There's a great photo that Atavistic used on the inner of the Dieter Scherf reissue - it's got a pic of the trio sitting in their broken-down VW tour van. They jam econo! I mean, most current "indie" is utter pap, so the issues of content-driven marketing that you're talking about really go to both the highest and lowest level. You just gotta sift to find the good stuff (and it is there). The same "type" of person who digs a little bit deeper than the Replacements will likely dig deeper than Dave Douglas. Sometimes they are a person who digs deeply in both genres. Brad Mehldau does Tom Rapp - CT

I give Empty Cage an 8. I mean, I don't even mention shit below a 7.

Ghetto Music's cover is beyond soulful, man. That's some druid shit right there!

Wow, I missed this as well. Happy Belated. Or should I say: Happy Belated!!!!

Mention was made earlier of Orpheum leading to Fantasy's buyout, but I thought ABC was in there for a little while there. How did that come about?

I'm with you, man, and I don't think anybody like Sangry, Nessa, Allen would disagree. In fact, there's a little talk about this in another thread about the '75 Down Beat poll winners. Sangry mentioned something about the Disney-World phenomenon, wherein "everybody's welcome." That is both excellent and in some ways problematic - as the cream doesn't rise to the top nearly as easily, if at all. You still gotta fish around there, but damned if I haven't found some fresh cream and even some good yogurt while I'm at it.

Alan Shorter - Parabolic - (Verve Polydor UK) Not spun this in awhile...

This one is a hell of a lot more civil than, like, the OP thread or even the KV thread.

Perhaps this might be part of the "problem"? Yes, perhaps. Perspective can be a "problem," but somebody's always going to have it (hopefully). But doesn't perspective have little to do with the "industry" as we're talking about it here?