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I'm curious to hear that one -- love the PJQ record. Let us know how it is... CT
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Got the new-ish Six Organs of Admittance (minimal folk-scraping buffoonery hybrid) and a Jackie*O Motherfucker LP. Oh, and reserved a few good jazz LPs online...
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Those OH MY GOD moments in jazz...
clifford_thornton replied to Uncle Skid's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Ascension blows my mind every time -- thankfully there are two versions of it! Each offers something new that I never noticed every time I listen to it (which is to say often). -
I would think that by this point there would be mention of his passing on his website, but there isn't. I sure hope this is a rumor and just that at present, because a world without Elvin would be kind of a drag. He's just one of those guys you feel that you can count on... not to mention an architect of the d-r-u-m.
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Hmm. I've got the America record but didn't realize the IAI had different music. Will have to hunt that one down. Thanks for the review -- not that I wouldn't already be checking it out, but still, nice to read.
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Ubu, I don't know if "For Mongesi" and "For Johnny" are on CD; I don't believe so. What's the deal with those Ogun discs anyway? Seems like they put out a couple (Ark, BOB in Wilisau) and then stopped. Someone ought to bootleg that Chris McGregor/Blue Notes LP on Polydor, "Very Urgent." I'm sick of looking for it!
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What's the best jazz autograph you have??
clifford_thornton replied to Rooster_Ties's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
Bobby Few signed my copy of his Center of the World record with a big smiley face with its tongue lolling out. Pretty funny. Steve Lacy signed my copy of Moon (before I really grasped the BYG debacle) with the comment, "these guys were gangsters!" -
I was gonna say that my favorite 45 was the Albert Ayler/Ornette Coleman split on ESP (ever seen that one?), but that's off-subject. Always more of an LP fan than a single-fan, but I remember liking those Disney 45 and 33 seven-inches as a kid. I think my first 45 was a Shellac record, probably "The Rude Gesture" or some such. I was suspicious of the medium, but had to have it. Still don't like 45s as much, but what can you do?
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Ubu, I believe mine is on Proper as well, but it has a few alternates. Can't remember which the alternates are, though! Moyake's a mother... think I'll bust it out tonight. C Edit: "The Blessing Light" and "Kay" have alternates on my copy, right after the first takes.
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"Action" is one of my fave Jackie Mc dates. It'll be good to have that one readily available, as well as "Black Fire." But how come they don't wait till the distributors are all out of McMasters to RVG the discs? I mean, I see "Inner Urge" around quite a bit in its previous incarnation.
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Is anyone else here on Friendster?
clifford_thornton replied to Brandon Burke's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
If you want, y'all can add me through Brandon; I really am Clifford (but not "Thornton"). Man, I never thought this would come up on Organissimo, and was always too embarrased to bring it up here. Friendster addict... -
I assume you have the Blue Notes "Township Bop" CD? Pretty great early stuff from McGregor, Nick Moyake and company. Though it does have that McMaster-style repetition of alternate takes...
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Patty is like the vocal version of Albert Ayler. She uses simple folk-song themes as a basis for extended vocal technique, expanding and intensifying through repetition. "Black is the Color" is the infamous side-long tour de force from her first LP, though I really like the College Tour record a lot. Cheers, *CT*
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I assume you've got the Jeanne Lee-Ran Blake duo on RCA? I'd add Patty Waters to this selection; of course her ESPs are great but the vocal rendition of "Lonely Woman" she does on Marzette Watts' Savoy LP is stunning. And hit that Sheila Jordan thread if you haven't already. I love "Portrait of Sheila" but it is, surprisingly, one of the most hated by girlfriends. Mine, anyway.
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What about the Bill Dixon and Tony Oxley duo? That is supposed to be pretty interesting, though I don't have it...
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I was trying to think of good records for making out a/o sex... and what I can experiment with as far as cool records that won't ruin the mood. The old standbys were Tom Rapp, Bert Jansch, et al. though Archie Shepp's "Black Gipsy" has been used more than once. Last night, Prince Lasha "Insight" and Howard Riley's "The Day Will Come" worked wonders. One of these days, "Luna Surface" will forever be changed for me...
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What's the worst song of all time?
clifford_thornton replied to Aggie87's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Yeah, there's some rotten stuff on that list, but for me this is really really annoying: 29. Breakfast at Tiffany's ... Deep Blue Something ... 1995 They always played it in the college cafeteria in '95, on repeat or so it seems. Now, of course, I'll have it in my head until I put on some Kenneth Terroade. -
Is there any session issued in more configurations than this Cecil set? I feel like I see a new version every day... would love to have the Roling cover; mine's got the drawing of Nefertiti [sigh].
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Has anybody else got that new AMM disc, "At the Roundhouse"? It's the Gare-Prevost duo performing in '72 at the International Carnival of Experimental Sound. Great stuff; I don't have the Matchless LP, so this is my first exposure to the duo incarnation of the group. I know it's not supposed to be a 'free jazz' record, but tenor/drums duos are such loaded things... anyway, pretty sweet.
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Artists you wished recorded more.
clifford_thornton replied to Hardbopjazz's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Giuseppi Logan Ric Colbeck Frank Smith George Khan Lowell Davidson -
I bet it is good (Gustafsson w/o Vandermark: ), but why do they look like Coldplay?!?
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I believe you can still get "Patterns" on that old Conn CD. I see that fucker all the time! If it's OOP, I'll find one for $12 and send it your way. Now "Oblique" I'd like to see. That is one rare LP, that's for sure. Safe to say that "Happenings" has no normal issue at the moment, either...
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That Montmartre set is great (i.e., the Revenant/Black Lion/Arista-Freedom/Speigeli-Freedom/Fontana/Debut [am I missing any issue?] recordings). Better every time I listen to them over the years. They just SWIIIINNNG... But yeah, it's a far cry from this to "Nailed" or some of the other recent-ish stuff. I've really, since that Ayler box came out, begun to not only appreciate but LOVE Jimmy Lyons' playing. Not just his playing, but his whole b-a-g. He's an amazing player independently of Cecil, but in a lot of ways very similar to Cecil. "Student Studies" is a nice set, rawer and less focused than the BNs of the same year. I prefer the Shandar set, "Nuits de la Fondation Maeght," but it's uh, another one of those 'relentless' things. Sam Rivers, Jimmy Lyons, Cyrille and Cecil... Any opinions of "Akisakila" (Lyons-Cecil-Cyrille from '73)? Or should I just assume it's good and that I do need a fifteenth Cecil LP from 1956-1973.
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No, because Lacy and Braxton didn't release 95% of their records named after some predecessor. Joe Harriott is _all right_. Vandermark is _all right_. So I guess that one makes sense... I've seen Vandermark blow hard, and it's good. But I've seen/heard a lot more of his shit fall flat, so that affects my opinion of him a little below the meridian.