Hardbopjazz

Thanks Mike.

402 my best.

I don't see it listed on Mike Fitzgerald's web site. I see two other Trip recordings of Lee Morgan there.

Anyone know what is on this album? Is it material from other albums? I have never heard of it before, and wonder if it's music I've never heard of Lee Morgan.

I can't agree with you more. Had gas not been so immersed in politics we would have had other sources. I remember Jimmy Carter starting the Federal program to find alternative sources of engry, in order to decrease our dependency on foreign sources. Ronald Regan expanded on it when he took office. But when Bush the first took office, he killed the program.

Never happen. I had to cut back on CD buying because the price of gas has risen too high.

Yet one more leaves us. RIP. Thanks for the music you left behind.

By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer Sat Aug 13,12:51 PM ET CORTE MADERA, Calif. - Politicians and automakers say a car that can both reduce greenhouse gases and free America from its reliance on foreign oil is years or even decades away. Ron Gremban says such a car is parked in his garage. It looks like a typical Toyota Prius hybrid, but in the trunk sits an 80-miles-per-gallon secret — a stack of 18 brick-sized batteries that boosts the car's high mileage with an extra electrical charge so it can burn even less fuel. Gremban, an electrical engineer and committed environmentalist, spent several months and $3,000 tinkering with his car. Like all hybrids, his Prius increases fuel efficiency by harnessing small amounts of electricity generated during braking and coasting. The extra batteries let him store extra power by plugging the car into a wall outlet at his home in this San Francisco suburb — all for about a quarter. He's part of a small but growing movement. "Plug-in" hybrids aren't yet cost-efficient, but some of the dozen known experimental models have gotten up to 250 mpg. They have support not only from environmentalists but also from conservative foreign policy hawks who insist Americans fuel terrorism through their gas guzzling. And while the technology has existed for three decades, automakers are beginning to take notice, too. So far, DaimlerChrysler AG is the only company that has committed to building its own plug-in hybrids, quietly pledging to make up to 40 vans for U.S. companies. But Toyota Motor Corp. officials who initially frowned on people altering their cars now say they may be able to learn from them. "They're like the hot rodders of yesterday who did everything to soup up their cars. It was all about horsepower and bling-bling, lots of chrome and accessories," said Cindy Knight, a Toyota spokeswoman. "Maybe the hot rodders of tomorrow are the people who want to get in there and see what they can do about increasing fuel economy." The extra batteries let Gremban drive for 20 miles with a 50-50 mix of gas and electricity. Even after the car runs out of power from the batteries and switches to the standard hybrid mode, it gets the typical Prius fuel efficiency of around 45 mpg. As long as Gremban doesn't drive too far in a day, he says, he gets 80 mpg. "The value of plug-in hybrids is they can dramatically reduce gasoline usage for the first few miles every day," Gremban said. "The average for people's usage of a car is somewhere around 30 to 40 miles per day. During that kind of driving, the plug-in hybrid can make a dramatic difference." Backers of plug-in hybrids acknowledge that the electricity to boost their cars generally comes from fossil fuels that create greenhouse gases, but they say that process still produces far less pollution than oil. They also note that electricity could be generated cleanly from solar power. Gremban rigged his car to promote the nonprofit CalCars Initiative, a San Francisco Bay area-based volunteer effort that argues automakers could mass produce plug-in hybrids at a reasonable price. But Toyota and other car companies say they are worried about the cost, convenience and safety of plug-in hybrids — and note that consumers haven't embraced all-electric cars because of the inconvenience of recharging them like giant cell phones. Automakers have spent millions of dollars telling motorists that hybrids don't need to be plugged in, and don't want to confuse the message. Nonetheless, plug-in hybrids are starting to get the backing of prominent hawks like former CIA director James Woolsey and Frank Gaffney, President Reagan's undersecretary of defense. They have joined Set America Free, a group that wants the government to spend $12 billion over four years on plug-in hybrids, alternative fuels and other measures to reduce foreign oil dependence. Gaffney, who heads the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy, said Americans would embrace plug-ins if they understood arguments from him and others who say gasoline contributes to oil-rich Middle Eastern governments that support terrorism. "The more we are consuming oil that either comes from places that are bent on our destruction or helping those who are ... the more we are enabling those who are trying to kill us," Gaffney said. DaimlerChrysler spokesman Nick Cappa said plug-in hybrids are ideal for companies with fleets of vehicles that can be recharged at a central location at night. He declined to name the companies buying the vehicles and said he did not know the vehicles' mileage or cost, or when they would be available. Others are modifying hybrids, too. Monrovia-based Energy CS has converted two Priuses to get up to 230 mpg by using powerful lithium ion batteries. It is forming a new company, EDrive Systems, that will convert hybrids to plug-ins for about $12,000 starting next year, company vice president Greg Hanssen said. University of California, Davis engineering professor Andy Frank built a plug-in hybrid from the ground up in 1972 and has since built seven others, one of which gets up to 250 mpg. They were converted from non-hybrids, including a Ford Taurus and Chevrolet Suburban. Frank has spent $150,000 to $250,000 in research costs on each car, but believes automakers could mass-produce them by adding just $6,000 to each vehicle's price tag. Instead, Frank said, automakers promise hydrogen-powered vehicles hailed by President Bush and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, even though hydrogen's backers acknowledge the cars won't be widely available for years and would require a vast infrastructure of new fueling stations. "They'd rather work on something that won't be in their lifetime, and that's this hydrogen economy stuff," Frank said. "They pick this kind of target to get the public off their back, essentially." ___ On the Net: CalCars Initiative: http://calcars.org

How does your spouse or other half feel about you hanging here? My wife wonder why I bother.

From Reuters. Reuters - Thu Aug 11, 4:31 PM ET The U.S. rock band The Rolling Stones perform at the Phoenix Concert Theatre in Toronto, Canada, August 10, 2005. The group played four cuts from the upcoming Virgin album. Other surprises included 'Emotional Rescue', 'She's So Cold,' and standards such as 'Brown Sugar' and 'Jumpin' Jack Flash.'

Could the guy be David Byrne of the talking heads.

I read the other day, on their way are fuel cell cars getting 170 miles per gallon. Hopefully we can all weather the storm till then. My wife asked me, why am I spending about 20 dollars more a week for gas to get to work. Then I realized, I'm the one that fills up her her car when it need gas. She wasn't aware how much the pirce has jumped.

Shit, I want a horse.

Man that's cheesy.

That has to be illegal, no question about it.

Dinner sounds like the correct choice.

This list could strech all the way to the moon. There's so much that hasn't made it to CD's.

You wouldn't have a image of that cover? I would like to see it.

So where does Definitive Records get their sources from in order to make a release on their label? I doubt, in the case of the Ike CD, Blue Note said, "here are the masters, have fun." Are they making their releases from older issued CD's, or from records that are in mint condition?

Does anyone here own Jackie McLean's Monuments? How bad is it really? If you have it, do you listen to it?

Well, it's the first and most likely the only one I would buy.

I broke down and bought Ike Quebec's Swing Hi Swing Lo on Definitive records. It is no longer available on Blue Note, or I would have bought it from them. Anyone know if this is a legit label?

Well I found the CD. I fell behind the receiver. I moved it out of the cabinet and there it was. Must have been there for months.

I too store alphabetical by artist. Don't know if I might have not put it back the last time I listen to it.

Last week I felt like listening to Jackie McLean's "One Step Beyond". I went to my room where I store all my CD's, and I could not find it. It's been 8 days now. I looked high and low. Now should I search for it on line and buy it again, or keep looking around my house? How many of you have lost or misplaced as CD? Did yiu go out and buy it again? If so, did the original one turn up at some point?