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I have almost all of the Three Sunds recordings on Blue Note except this and one other. Does anyone have an opinion of this session? Is it worth getting?
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Usually WKCR has these broadcasts on the artists' birthdays. Trane's birthday is in Sept. It will be worth tuning into to this.
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Standards you DON'T get sick of
Hardbopjazz replied to ghost of miles's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Beautiful tune, but it's hard to listen to anyone play it after Clifford Brown's version. You can't say that about Lee Morgan's version on "The Gigolo". I think it is the best version of that tune erver recorded, at least in my opinion. Not sure how that follows from the Clifford Brown comment, plus "The Gigolo" is not a standard, and has not been recorded by many artists, afaik. Are you thinking of "Just a gigolo"? Jim, I am referring to "You go to my head" from "The Gigolo". -
She'll most likely either back down or not agree.
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Standards you DON'T get sick of
Hardbopjazz replied to ghost of miles's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Beautiful tune, but it's hard to listen to anyone play it after Clifford Brown's version. You can't say that about Lee Morgan's version on "The Gigolo". I think it is the best version of that tune erver recorded, at least in my opinion. -
Standards you DON'T get sick of
Hardbopjazz replied to ghost of miles's topic in Miscellaneous Music
The Very Thought of You You go to my head -
Because, they will then go and sell it at a higher price. If they were to keep it for themselves, I cool with that. I know someone who did buy a large collection from an estate sale at a real low price, and he went and so most of it on ebay for a lot more.
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What is the opinion of the members on this board..
Hardbopjazz replied to Jazz Groove's topic in Miscellaneous Music
This site has been great. I've found a lot of stuff. I am right now downloading a Louis Armstrong show from 1954. -
How many of our wives, if we were to up and die tomorrow, would know what to price our jazz collection at? Would someone going through the estate sale water at the mouth, knowing he’s going to make a kill? My wife said to me last Friday, "I bet if you sold your 2000 plus CD’s you could get about $200.00". My Mosaics would get me more then $2000 alone. My albums, many OOP, would also get me about $2000.00. I hope I live long enough so I don't have to worry about this. How to educate her on the value of music collection? This all came about when I saw in the local town paper where I live, an estate sale the next town over for a Nathanial Washington. The six-line blab in the paper said there were records and CD’s being sold. With a name like Nathanial Washington, got me thinking I could find something good there. As blunt as this made seem, this is where you can find some gems. Well anyway, I never made it to the sale.
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Rare auction spotlights African American treasures Original Duke Ellington scores, for sale in a rare auction, show his creative process BY KARIN LIPSON STAFF WRITER February 26, 2004 Auction consultant and musician Wyatt H. Day got a phone call that left him stunned: The caller owned some original musical scores by jazz legend Duke Ellington and wanted to put them up for sale. "My mouth hung open," Day recalled. "This is the kind of stuff that you just don't see." When he did see them - arrangements for brass and reeds, handwritten by Ellington in pencil, jotted with instructions to his band members and, in one case, signed with a distinctive flourish - Day's excitement level jumped a few more octaves: "It was like handling a Mozart score," he said recently. Maybe Mozart jamming at the Cotton Club, the jazz nightspot where the suave Ellington and his orchestra held sway, first in Harlem and later downtown, starting in 1927. At least three of the scores, which will be auctioned Thursday at the Swann Galleries in Manhattan, were created for the Cotton Club. That swank nightclub figured large in the early Ellington sound, said the scores' consigner, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "They were the house band at one of the most popular clubs in Harlem, where the elite would go," he said. "So they became very famous very quickly, and also Duke had the opportunity to try out different arrangements with the orchestra." Although it was seen as the Carnegie Hall of nightspots, the Cotton Club was hardly demure. "There was drinking, debauchery, music - it was heaven," the scores' owner said. "It was where everybody wanted to be." Gift from son A musician himself, the consigner said he got the scores as a gift from Ellington's son, Mercer, with whom he worked closely as a musical assistant. They range from a reworking of Harold Arlen's "Stormy Weather," which Ellington recorded in 1933, to the classic Ellington hit "I Got It Bad and That Ain't Good" (1941). Offered in six lots estimated to sell for $2,000 to $6,000 apiece - and presented as the first original Ellington scores ever to go up for auction - they're part of a sale of African- Americana organized by Day. In an event that includes boldly colorful movie posters featuring Lena Horne and Paul Robeson and a pastel by Harlem Renaissance artist Aaron Douglas, Ellington's slightly smudged, penciled scores may not be the most visually arresting material up for grabs. They are, after all, just notes on a lined page, mostly quick sketches to be fleshed out later. (Was it haste that led Ellington to spell his song title "I got it Bab" instead of "Bad"?) For Ellington lovers and other jazz buffs, however, the scores provide windows into the mind of an American icon. "You can put him up there," said Monk Rowe, director of the Hamilton College Jazz Archive of videotapes in Clinton, N.Y. "If you're going to name American composers, you can name Aaron Copland, and you can name [Leonard] Bernstein, and you can name Duke Ellington and [George] Gershwin." To jazz historians such as Rowe, the scores ("Oh, wow!" he said on learning of them) help illuminate Ellington's combination of creative genius, canny management and bonding with fellow musicians. Such scores let us "see his thinking process," Rowe said. "Ellington was famous for writing for individuals, not just instruments." Unusual for seeking out players with a distinctive sound, rather than mere technical prowess, Ellington wrote to their strengths, incorporating their styles in his music and allowing them ample solo time. Many band members stayed with Ellington for years, even decades. There they are, woven right into these scores: "Cooty ad lib," Ellington writes, a notation to trumpeter Cootie Williams; or "Bridge to Rab," referring to saxophonist Johnny "Rabbit" Hodges. Instructions to sax players Harry Carney and Ben Webster, trombonist "Tricky Sam" Nanton and clarinetist Barney Bigard also pepper the manuscripts. Smithsonian's trove Though the scores may be rare on the open market, such Ellingtonia abounds in the Smithsonian Institution's Duke Ellington Collection. "We have 200,000 pages of documents, half of it unpublished music" composed or arranged by Ellington and his bandmates, said John Edward Hasse, an Ellington expert who is curator of American music at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. With its trove of Ellington scores, the Smithsonian material "would probably duplicate these things," said Day, of Swann Galleries. "Just like a writer, [a composer] wouldn't just scribble it out. There would probably be different treatments of the same tune." And, of course, recordings. "Ellington is probably one of the most well-recorded artists in the history of jazz," said Dan Morgenstern, director of the Institute of Jazz Studies at Rutgers University. The interplay between manuscript and recording is important, Day agreed. In fact, it's pretty much the point. "We knew what he sounds like. This is what it looks like." Hear daily radio features commemorating African-Americans at www.newsday .com/entertainment.
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Musical instruments you could do without in jazz.
Hardbopjazz replied to connoisseur series500's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I would have say bagpipes. But... Sonny Rollins used bagpipes during his 1974 European tour. Can't image someone soloing on bagpipes. http://montreuxsounds.com/ SONNY ROLLINS Jul 6, 1974 Congrés Montreux Sonny Rollins (ts) Rufus Harley (bagpipes) Stanely Cowell (p) Bob Cranshaw (B) Masuo (g) Mtume (congas, perc) David Lee (dr) 1. The Cutting Edge (06:35) 2. A House Is Not A Home (05:57) 3. Direct Line (06:45) 4. Swing Low Sweet Chariot (19:30) 5. Alfie's Theme (10:52) 6. To A Wild Rose (08:25) 7. Don't Stop The Carnival (Calypso Everywhere) (05:35) 8. Sonnymoon For Two (19:03) -
Thanks Jazzbo. I was listening to some Miles Davis from the Cellar Door and didn't know the location was.
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Whom do you think did the best linner notes?
Hardbopjazz replied to Hardbopjazz's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I have to add Phil Schapp to the list, even though he is better known as a jazz historian. I like the work he did on the Bird Verve box set. -
Can anyone tell me this?
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I have to say Orrin Keepnews. I always enjoy reading his linner notes.
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If you were doing a album, who do you want playing
Hardbopjazz posted a topic in Miscellaneous Music
If you were doing an album, who would you want playing behind you? I play Piano, so I would choose as my backup Drums, I have to say Art Blakey. Trumpet, a toss up between Brownie or Morgan. Bass, Paul Chambers Tenor, Mobley. -
I've seen Lou 5 times. I never seen Jimmy Smith or Ray Charles. Avery Fisher Hall is where they are at. If the acoustics are as you say, I'll go see Smith. Plus t is a lot less money then Avery Fisher Hall. $27.5 compared to $75 per ticket. Lou is not like the past? What is it, his age? He always was swinging when I've seen him.
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I been on many forums and I am in the process of setting one up for the industry I am in. This forum is by far the best in terms of ease. I am working with a package called WowBB. Don't like all that much. But I only began to test it. What one does this forum use?
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How about Wes with the Modern Jazz Quartet? Wes did play with them and was offered to come join the band full time. He turned it down because he didn't want to away from his wife and kids for too long. Was this ever recorded?
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Somebody on the BNBB said a collector had offered a copy of the tape (it's about 45 minutes, supposedly) to him for $2500. He declined.
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I would say it is a safe bet, that the most sacred and sort after recording by any of us jazz archeologist, is finding a the recording of John Coltrane and Wes Montgomery. I can't think of any other legendary teaming that I which would surface. Any others come to mind?
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Any ideas? He's still alive, but I've never hear anything about this b3er.
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Does anyone know if Sonny Rollins will be playing the NY area this year? I known he doesn't do many shows anymore.
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Where they be playing? I am going for training in April in Atlanta.
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