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Well, besides the energy side there is the gospel and blues-drenched lyrical cry to Ayler's playing, as with Ornette, but qualitatively somewhat different. I wouldn't say that necessarily applies to Parker, but it's another angle to consider Ayler's overall influence by, not just the intensity.

Well, Tyler was a close associate of Ayler's.

More than maybe. Definitely, and acknowledged by Trane. Good list of Ayler-influenced players. One major disciple you left out was David S. Ware.

Imagine if Wardell had lived...

I think he was referring to his ballad style that he developed while with Duke, when he worked alongside Hodges, rather than his earlier style. But in that case he's a tenor in the Bechet lineage via Hodges.

I absolutely love Gonsalves, so I find it sad that he's most remembered for an overlong grandstanding solo string of blues cliches that Duke made him repeat for years.

Jim Neely (in Memphis I prefer Neely's Interstate to Corky's) Jim McNeely John McNeil (I see him on the street in our neighborhood a couple of times a week)

Similarity in tone. Probably the only major tenor players not out of Prez who had a softer tone than the Hawkins school, no?

I hope they don't have to learn that interminable overrated solo from Newport.

Ill-gotten copyrights should not be honored, IMO.

This can be said for a number of players, including Harold Land and James Moody. I once saw a concert where Moody played pure bebop alto and modal Trane tenor.

I'd say Ayler because Byas, Webster & Berry are pretty much extensions of the Hawkins tradition and Ayler was pretty much sui generis.

They were angry way before Shepp! If that's angry, Lockjaw was one of my favorite angry tenors.

Too bad about Walkin' but I do agree with Lon that the DVD from the new box has better picture and sound than I have ever seen before on this material. Sweden is definitley better on both compared to the versions I've seen before. Karlsruhe is a tad better on picture and more better on sound than my bootleg.

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I believe Phil Schaap has unearthed a hitherto unknown take of Teddy Reig saying, "Hold it!"

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Marian McPartland, for another. I don't really know any post-Rollins Eager, but I just don't hear much Rollins in Dexter's approach at any time, and that diagram is from what was pretty much his lost years.

Is that Gitler's diagram? I doubt Rollins was an influence on Dexter Gordon! Or Allen Eager for that matter. Interesting to see the Gray influence on Frank Foster noted--I hear so much Wardell in early Foster. I also think Prez should be noted as an influence on '50s Mobley.

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Yeah, I saw Buck Clayton when he was still playing trumpet at a midtown New Orleans-style restaurant called Crawdaddy. And the one time I saw Jo Jones was in '77 at the West End. Allen, did you go to the piano places on Bleecker? Frank Kimbrough told me he used to play at the Surf Maid. I don't remember him, but I did see Joanne Brackeen and Jill McManus there, and lots of the great but virtually unknown Lance Hayward at the Village Corner. In those days you could sit at the bar at the The Top of the Gate all night for no cover (for the likes of Mingus and Blakey) and get buybacks every third or fourth drink. Thankfully, one could drink at 18 back then. And, boy did I drink.