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Hey Thom- I gotta listen to this more, did check it out quickly the other day and nothing was immediately obvious to me, well, except our friend from a few miles north...

Haven't posted here in a long time but I have been checking out some Black Jazz stuff online and found this old thread. Here's a question for the Black Jazz experts here, because it's killing me... if you go to the website (http://www.blackjazz.com/) and listen to "Black Jazz Radio," what are the first three tunes on the first track? I know the site is dead and everything, but you would think they would have listed the names of the tunes playing here so one could then buy the CD. I have been going through all the sound samples on the site trying to figure out what these are and it's driving me crazy. Anyone know? Particularly wondering about the first one...thought it was from one of the Doug Carn albums but I can't find it. Thanks!! Tim

Some great recommendations here! I will add... Steve Lacy/Roswell Rudd Quartet - School Days Another one I really like is Ron Carter - Etudes but that may be a bit too straight ahead for you judging from your tastes and other recommendations in the thread.

Here's my group...we play a lot of music that is completely improvised, but some of the things are based on loose structures: http://www.myspace.com/equaltime For anyone who lives in the Northeast, we are playing at the Barley Pub in Dover, NH Sunday night May 17 @ 8pm!

And Who's Crazy! Happy Birthday Ornette!

Money. I thought money made the world go round. Seems to me it just makes it stop.

Am I correct that the Chicago Jazz Festival has not been broadcast on the radio for several years now? I was there in 2005 and would love to hear some of it again, particularly the AACM Great Black Music Ensemble set. But it seems they no longer put this on the air anymore. Why?

I too am a big fan of Farrah's two Strata East LPs. But I don't really know anything else about him. First Impressions is not really a rarity, you can buy it here on LP: http://www.vinyl.com/product_id/LPSEAS7412 Also Dusty Groove appears to have Japanese import CDs of both Strata East records. They also have La Dee La La, which I haven't heard, but I'm curious about that one. I also love the Milton Suggs sound. Apart from these and the Byron Morris LP, the only other recording with him that I know of is this one:

AVANT COAST Creative Music Series begins Friday February 23, 8pm SPECIAL EVENT!! CHARLIE KOHLHASE / MATT LANGLEY / LUTHER GRAY and THOM KEITH / TIM WEBB Charlie Kohlhase - saxophones, Matt Langley - saxophones, Luther Gray - drums. Thom Keith - saxophones, Tim Webb - bass. LOTUS RISING DANCE STUDIO is located on the bottom floor of The Mills at Salmon Falls (artist studios), 1 Front Street, Rollinsford, NH $8 admission at door. See www.avantcoast.com or call 603-205-6144 for more info. The premiere event of the AVANT COAST Creative Music Series at Lotus Rising Dance Studio in Rollinsford, NH. This is also the premiere performance of the Kohlhase/Langley/Gray group. Come and experience some vibrant, challenging, and thrilling music in a pleasant, smoke-free, listening environment. Other upcoming events: 3/16- Tim O'Dell & Tatsu Aoki @ 11 Pleasant St Arts Ctr, Brunswick, ME 3/30- O'Dell/Langley Quartet & TBA @ Lotus Rising Studio, Rollinsford, NH Stay tuned to avantcoast.com for the latest news! And check out our new MP3 jukebox... www.avantcoast.com

Can someone explain to me, or point me to a resource that explains, exactly how Crouch went from drumming with David Murray, etc...to becoming the ultra-conservative, anti-avant garde critic that he is now? I missed a big piece of the puzzle in there somewhere. What the heck happened?

Wow, that looks great...I didn't know anything about this. Gotta add that to the list. I love his trio disc on ESP with Henry Grimes and Tom Price.

Thought some of you might like to know about these two upcoming shows in Maine: Trumpter EDDIE GALE & trombonist DICK GRIFFIN bring avant-garde sounds to New England EDDIE GALE & DICK GRIFFIN with EQUAL TIME Monday, October 2nd - 7:30pm Railroad Square Cinema 17 Railroad Square Waterville, ME (just 15 mins from Augusta and 1 hr from Bangor) $10 admission at door Tuesday, October 3rd - 7:30pm Studio AC at the Wentworth-Dennett School 78 Government Street Kittery, ME (just 1 hr from Boston and 45 mins from Portland) $10 admission at door For more information on both shows: www.avantcoast.com avantcoast@yahoo.com 603-205-6144 Please join us for this RARE New England appearance of groundbreaking musicians EDDIE GALE and DICK GRIFFIN. In addition to his many recordings as a leader for Blue Note, Mapleshade, and others, trumpeter EDDIE GALE has performed and recorded with Sun Ra, Cecil Taylor, and Larry Young. Trombonist DICK GRIFFIN has several recordings under his own leadership, and his other recording credits include Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Abdullah Ibrahim, and McCoy Tyner. These shows pair these living legends with northeast-based creative improvising group EQUAL TIME (Thom Keith-saxes, Mike Walsh-drums, and Tim Webb-bass). Presented by the Maine Jazz Alliance and Avant Coast. Don't miss out!

Thanks, everybody, I've got to save my pennies for that set. I'll look for the Charlie Christian stuff too...

Harold- tenor sax & flute, Bobby Hutcherson- vibes, Joe Sample- piano, Buster Williams- bass, Donald Bailey- drums & harmonica And I agree with the poster above who said that this is a bit behind the Hutcherson Blue Note albums...I don't agree with Dusty Groove about that...however, it's still one of my favorites. Just different. It does have a very different vibe to it than the Hutcherson LPs.

This is an interesting thread. There's no way around it, recording in a studio is tough. Or I should say CAN be tough. It can also be a challenge that you have some fun with, spit in its face and completely let loose. But you need to remind yourself to get into that mindset and it can be hard. More often, you get focused on all the wrong things...everything but the music. There are so many things that try to distract you. I've also tried to record some of my live gigs and have had a tough time with this too. Probably because I don't have someone else do it, I hit the record button myself before we start playing. And that's a bitch because if I'm in the wrong mental space all I'm aware of is that every "bad" note I hit is now on tape! Another funny story related to this, since the original question was: How do you get comfortable in the studio?...I did a recording session on electric bass and played the whole thing half-lying down on a couch in the control room. I always thought feel of the resulting album was pretty relaxed and solid...I was certainly happier with it than some others I did around the same time, and everyone at the session wondered if it had to do with that couch! We joked that instead of endorsing bass strings or amplifiers I should start endorsing furniture.

The image didn't come through for me...is it this one? (see below)

I could go for a Harold Land or Elmo Hope set myself. By the way, is it just me or is the Concord website a pain in the ass? I wish they had left the old OJC site active. It wasn't as slick or modern or whatever, but it was certainly easier to navigate and find the stuff you want. I have no interest in most of the stuff Concord offers apart from the OJC releases, but I guess that's just me...

Never thought I would be interested in Benny Goodman (and please don't take that as a slam if you're a Benny Goodman fan, I'm just trying to open my mind a little here...), but I recently saw old footage of Benny Goodman's Quartet with Lionel Hampton, Teddy Wilson, and Gene Krupa and was completely blown away. It seems to me that this stuff has been issued in many different forms...where is the best place to start? I found this recording: Original Benny Goodman Trio and Quartet Sessions, Vol. 1: After You've Gone on RCA/Bluebird, which looks great, but I want to be sure I'm not missing something...is there a better one to start with? I'm sure someone here will know a lot more about this than I do. Thanks, Tim

Hey everybody, I posted about this quite a while ago here, but hopefully nobody will mind the repeat... I have a website called Northeast Jazz Scene that is dedicated to promoting awareness of jazz in Massachusetts, Maine and New Hampshire. If you live in the area, please check it out at www.nejazzscene.com. We've got up-to-date gig listings, free MP3s, venue listings, a forum, jazz radio guide, photo gallery and more. There are a lot of incredible jazz musicians in the northeast, but as is the case all across the country, fewer and fewer people are coming out to see the shows. Please do what you can to support live music!! Thanks, Tim

Wow, this looks really interesting. Went to the website and saw issue no. 586 with Stanley on the cover. There's a full discography in there? I may have figure out how to order this...too bad the magazine is in French, I won't be able to read the interview...but I assume the discography will be easy enough to figure out. Thanks! Tim

Here's the blurb on "The Peace-Maker" from dustygroove.com, just for more info... A fantastically beautiful record that stands as the first meeting between Bobby Hutcherson and Harold Land -- an album that's possibly even better than the more famous Blue Note work by the pair! This is one of those "once in a lifetime" jazz sessions -- filled with magical interplay that's made the record a favorite with collectors for years, and done with a sound that's as lyrically graceful as it is soulful and righteous! Hutcherson's vibes are at their warmest 60s mode, but still have some of the angularity of his more modern sides for Blue Note -- but Land is the real discovery here -- as he steps out with a fluidity that surpasses any of his earlier hardbop albums, a flowing exploratory style expressed on both flute and tenor -- with a mode that's years ahead of its time, and sounds a lot more like work on labels like Strata East or Muse from the 70s. Tracks are nearly all originals by Land, and are the kind of thoughtful jazz compositions that show up on a rare few records from the 60s -- all of them are great, and sparkle with creativity and a subdued sense of righteousness. Titles include "One For Nini", "Angel Dance", "The Peace Maker", "40 Love", "Stylin", and "The Aquarian".

Chuck, coming from you that carries a lot of weight! Thanks!

Thanks, I will check it out, and the other one you mentioned too. Tarik caught my eye because of Blackwell and Malachi Favors, and also because of the price (6.99)!

Yeah, the performance on that Enja disc is killer...same group except Hal Galper replaces Stanley Cowell. And yes, there are a number of phenomenal performances of the group from Europe in 1969 and 1970. Most have Cowell, a couple have Galper on piano. The holy grail for me would be finding some video of this group! I don't know if it exists, but I feel like there's a chance, since they performed quite a bit in Europe and so much of it was well documented. The Europeans certainly did a better job of taping and broadcasting this kind of stuff. Here's something I've wondered about, though...there was a TV program called "Mixed Bag" on WGBH-TV in Boston in the late sixties and I think Bobby Hutcherson did one of these programs...don't know if Harold was involved or not. I've looked around for info on this show but found nothing. Does anyone know whether any of that footage still exists?

I love the group on this disc...Hutcherson sounds amazing as always, Buster Williams' bass and Donald Bailey's drumming are splashy and a bit loose...groovin'. I don't honestly know much about Joe Sample but I like his piano playing on this a lot. And Harold's playing at this point was going through big changes...obviously much more modern than the bop stuff from the 50s and early 60s, but he's not yet at the point he was at on Hutcherson records like Medina and Total Eclipse. The tunes on The Peace-Maker are generally blues-based, so it's not nearly as abstract as those two Hutcherson records I mentioned simply because of that. But the playing is energetic! Definitely very 60s sounding in some ways, although it also reminds me of the 70s Strata-East label style a bit. So it is kind of looking ahead and backwards at the same time. Nice tunes by Harold. "The Aquarian" is one of my favorites. And the title track is beautiful, in my opinion.