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I've been curious about this one, may have to give it a try. I absolutely LOVE the stuff he did with Hutcherson (and esp. the Hutcherson/Land group) in the late 60s.

Got another question here about the Ranelin/Harrison record "A Message from the Tribe"...does anyone here have the current LP reissue of this? I have been assuming that it sounds the same as the CD version(s) but maybe I'm wrong about that. Anybody have this?

Great! Thanks for that...didn't even think that would be anywhere online.

Thanks! Hmmm...I may just get the CD, it's certainly easier to find & probably cheaper than the vinyl at this point. Thanks for checking that, I really appreciate it.

There was some sort of server/database problem a few years ago that resulted everyone's post count being lessened. Your smaller tally is likely related to that. Gotcha. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity!

I've been a member here since 2004, and I haven't posted a whole lot, but definitely a lot more than 26 times. I've had long periods of inactivity though...does a person's post count reset to zero or something if they are not active for a while? Just curious.

There's also a Japanese mini-LP version of this on CD...I suppose that would probably have the lead sheet if in fact it's an accurate replica. It's amazing how much confusion there is on the web between these two albums...I keep finding the cover for one combined with the track listing for the other Impact, plus links that lead to the wrong album, etc... Had Mr. Tolliver known about the internet in the 70s he probably would have come up with a different title for one of them.

Hi, just a quick question for anyone who might have this CD... First off, there are actually two totally different Tolliver albums called "Impact"...one on Strata-East with a big band, and another on Enja with a quartet, which is the one I'm concerned with (pictured here: http://www.enjarecords.com/cd.php?nr=ENJ-2109 ). My question is: the original LP of this record contained lead sheets for one or more of the tunes (I know this not because I have it, but because I saw one on ebay)...does the CD reissue have the lead sheet(s) too? I know they would be tiny, but it's been done before (see: Steve Swallow - The Real Book). Thanks in advance for any help with this!

Just a quick tip for those seeking out the Black Jazz CDs...I see that some of them are now fetching Big $$$ since they are no longer available from the Black Jazz site, but most if not all are available new through HMV Japan and if you buy a bunch of them it's worth the shipping. In fact, I just bought The Awakening's "Hear, Sense, and Feel" and they had it on special for 1000 yen (about 11 bucks + shipping). Most of the others are more like $22 + shipping. But Doug Carn's "Revelation" is $53 on Amazon vs. the ~$22 I paid for it.

Oh man...awesome! Thanks for sharing the info. That's so funny, I don't know any Dee Dee Bridgewater at all but for some reason she popped up on my radar screen last week and I thought to myself I gotta check her out... Now I definitely do. It's actually not the echo-y distant sound that bothers me at all...I can hear that and I dig it. What they did to the CDs was apply way too much noise reduction-- and I mean A LOT...I can't always detect NR but in this case they absolutely butchered it. It sounds like some guy got his new wav editor program and set the noise reducer to KILL. It not only took out every last bit of hiss, it took a good chunk of music with it. The cymbals sound like MP3 compression gone horribly wrong if you know what I mean. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this here, but I would love to get even a burnt CD of the LP if someone were willing to do that. This album is so friggin good I just gotta hear it the way it's supposed to sound.

The Japanese CD of this just arrived in my mailbox today & I'm looking forward to listening to it!

Gotcha...I have a copy of that one so I don't have an LP to look at. I always assumed it was a very limited self-released pressing of some sort.

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Definitely Jean Carn singing. I'll see if I can find the tune on the Dough & Jean Carn CD's over the weekend if I get a chance. Those Carn CD's on Black Jazz are four great CD's by the way. I really want to know what that tune is! You & me both! Hey, I have another unrelated question, but still on-topic for the thread (since it is Black Jazz AND Tribe Records)... Does anyone here have the original vinyl of the Ranelin/Harrison album "A Message From The Tribe"? Man...I just discovered that record and it is AMAZING. But the sound quality on the two available CDs (Scorpio Music and P-Vine) is absolutely horrendous. I'm wondering whether it's worth tracking down the original LP for the $500 or so it goes for (!!!).

YES! Is that an ESP date though? I didn't know that. Do they own the tapes?

Yeah, you guys are right...I can't come up with anything else. Wonder what that first tune is...? Whatever it is, I like it.

Ha...now that I listen to more of that "Black Jazz Radio" it's obvious that they are putting all sorts of stuff in there. Sorry for the wild goose chase guys, I guess my question was a bit premature... :blush2:

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Thanks guys! I really appreciate the help. I guess this would explain why I couldn't figure out what albums these tunes were coming from...! I am totally new to the Black Jazz stuff but I'm liking what I'm hearing as I go through the samples on the site. Well, I'll look up Doug & Jean Carn and see if maybe that first one is from another album NOT on Black Jazz...? And will look up that Crusaders tune too. Thanks again!

Hey Thom- I gotta listen to this more, did check it out quickly the other day and nothing was immediately obvious to me, well, except our friend from a few miles north...

Haven't posted here in a long time but I have been checking out some Black Jazz stuff online and found this old thread. Here's a question for the Black Jazz experts here, because it's killing me... if you go to the website (http://www.blackjazz.com/) and listen to "Black Jazz Radio," what are the first three tunes on the first track? I know the site is dead and everything, but you would think they would have listed the names of the tunes playing here so one could then buy the CD. I have been going through all the sound samples on the site trying to figure out what these are and it's driving me crazy. Anyone know? Particularly wondering about the first one...thought it was from one of the Doug Carn albums but I can't find it. Thanks!! Tim

Some great recommendations here! I will add... Steve Lacy/Roswell Rudd Quartet - School Days Another one I really like is Ron Carter - Etudes but that may be a bit too straight ahead for you judging from your tastes and other recommendations in the thread.

Here's my group...we play a lot of music that is completely improvised, but some of the things are based on loose structures: http://www.myspace.com/equaltime For anyone who lives in the Northeast, we are playing at the Barley Pub in Dover, NH Sunday night May 17 @ 8pm!

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