analogak Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Yeah, it's not too bad. Not piano though. Ra plays wurlitzer, moog, celeste, and something called a "Rokiscord". Now that was one beautiful, crazy SoB. are you confusing purple night and night of the purple moon in your comments? purple night has a weird ghostly sound to it. purple moon does not. but sun ra plays wurlitzer, etc on purple moon. purple night is mostly piano heavy with a little synth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 $22.99 at Dusty: Disco 3000 Thanks. I thought that was bonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Does anyone know if Disco 3000 is OOP already? I was at CDnow and some seller has it listed at $998...$998??? That's gotta be a mistake or this cd is now rarer than a fist full of original El Saturns. Honest Jon's got it too: http://new.honestjons.com/shop.php?pid=31551 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Does anyone know if Disco 3000 is OOP already? I was at CDnow and some seller has it listed at $998...$998??? That's gotta be a mistake or this cd is now rarer than a fist full of original El Saturns. Honest Jon's got it too: http://new.honestjons.com/shop.php?pid=31551 Thanks Sidewinder and Jostber. I was getting concerned that it was OOP already. After last week's haul of Sun Ra cd's, I'm trying to space (or spread) out my purchases. As someone said above, Sun Ra reissues have been through the roof this last year or so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Should be no problem getting the 'Disco 3000' CDs. In fact I may pay a visit to Honest Jon's this weekend to pick one up on CD (have the LP). That high-priced offering must have been for an original LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Was just wondering...does anybody know if there are any more unreleased sessions from the early to mid 60's?? I recently heard the unreleased 'Secrets of the Sun' ('62 I believe) and it blew my mind - it makes you wonder if there are anymore amazing sessions like this from that kind of transitional period (my personal favourite era, if I had to choose) Secrets of the Sun is one you mentioned, and What's New and Out There A Minute (which has been on CD in the past and may be from the same sessions as Secrets of the Sun) come to mind. Edited February 21, 2008 by blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Has anybody listened to all four of the Lost Reels CDs? How good are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 It's more than four cds. . . several are two cd sets, and if you had ordered directly from Transparency at the time you got extras too (interview and dvd discs). I like them, with one exception, the "lecture" disc that is the second disc of the first volume. Others really like that lecture, it weirded me out. But the music on these I like. Sound is very good to good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabgrass Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 It's more than four cds. . . several are two cd sets, and if you had ordered directly from Transparency at the time you got extras too (interview and dvd discs). I like them, with one exception, the "lecture" disc that is the second disc of the first volume. Others really like that lecture, it weirded me out. But the music on these I like. Sound is very good to good. Are you talking about the "Live from Soundscape" CD on Disc Union that has a second CD with a lecture called "Sun Ra Talks On 'The Possibility Of Altered Destiny'"? I have that and the music is good, but I think he gets "further out" during the lecture. I tried to transcribe it once, but never finished. Here's what I had when I gave up... Sun Ra speaks on the Possibility of Altered Destiny (1979) I'm talking about equations for a long time now the world has dwelt on faith, beliefs... possibly dreams and the truth and the kind of world you got today is a world that's based on those particular things... how do you like it? you have to judge the tree by the fruit, you see and whatever people have been basing things on it come out to be exactly what it is like Iran, and the students over there and they're only products of what older people talking you see cause they really don't know anything except things they have dealt with in schools and so they're products of the schools and they're products of religion they're not really the products of themselves cause they just got here on the planet so really, they don't have any right to express themselves on anything except through older people somewhere along the way the older people, or so-called older people made the mistake of not preparing the way for the so-called younger people and the kind of world you got today is facing imminent destruction by beings from other spheres because the universe is very delicate, you see and everything you do here affects other beings well, it is said it reaches all the way up to God and down to Satan so, to be in between these two great forces you have to be sure that you are doing something that is possible pleasing to them if you're in between two great forces God and Satan and you're doing something that neither one of them like you're in trouble all in all every now and then the cosmic forces drop down some words to man like for instance Reverend Sun Moon came over and the Americans said that... ah... America had to be very careful because God's agent had landed in America and America was in danger of doing the same thing the people did when they rejected Jesus Christ he also said that.. um... God didn't want anything else to do with man because He can't trust him and he also said that Satan doesn't want anything to do with him either because he can't trust him. now all these different people come along talking things they're not just talking things of their own because as long as man has been on this planet he never has had a thought of his own the thoughts always came from somewhere else and he use it and move along with it according to he always twisted it to be... to fit him, you see instead of trying to twist himself around to fit something greater than himself man finally reached down and started talking about all men are equal and he tried to make all men equal which is against the law of nature man also talked about freedom which is also against the cosmo law because everything has to be turned now where people talk about interdependence and not independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabgrass Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Sun Ra speaks on the Possibility of Altered Destiny (1979) con't... Iran today is the product of seeking to be free and seeking independence so... if they could just separate themselves from the world completely they would be independent but the fact is whatever they do over there affects us, you see and that's why they're making a drastic mistake because you can't really affect billions of people and do something that you want to do yourself in a selfish manner without regard for anybody when you reach that point you reach past the level of God because not even God does a thing like that selfish people will never make it on earth any longer because there's some more people getting ready to take over these people are not selfish they're people sent to help you of course you won't have any freedom you enter over to 1980 and you got a book called big brother and it's telling you that big brother will be there to tell you everything to do because you.. you've gotten lost down here I was reading in the paper the other day that they'd found out that one of the moons of Saturn is a base for UFOs, you see so the truth is finally coming out I've been talking about Saturn for years, you see I don't ever remember having been there but I'm sure I'm a citizen of Saturn but I have been to Jupiter some things you tell people they... you know they don't really believe it so a lot of people have done things that they are afraid to speak of, you see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Has anybody listened to all four of the Lost Reels CDs? How good are they? I have volume 4 which is a 2 cd set. As the previous posts above have already indicated, the sound is pretty decent for a rehearsal tape (in this instance, IIRC, the box was mis-labled as a concert given in Mexico City in '74-I'm going by memory as I don't have the cd in front of me). For the most part, the music is quite good except for the occasional break down/tuning/chit-chatting. What stood out for me, though was the guitarist, whom I don't recall if his name was given as some of the band members were listed as unknown/uncertain-but he was very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Was just wondering...does anybody know if there are any more unreleased sessions from the early to mid 60's?? I recently heard the unreleased 'Secrets of the Sun' ('62 I believe) and it blew my mind - it makes you wonder if there are anymore amazing sessions like this from that kind of transitional period (my personal favourite era, if I had to choose) Secrets of the Sun is one you mentioned, and What's New and Out There A Minute (which has been on CD in the past and may be from the same sessions as Secrets of the Sun) come to mind. Evidence had planned some years ago to reissue "Secrets of the Sun", but could not find the Master Tapes. It's a great one, and should get a new release: http://www.the-temple.net/sunradisco/secrets.html Some 70's classic Saturn's/Impule that should be reissued too: The Antique Blacks Astro Black Horizon Universe in Blue Omniverse Discipline 27-II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 No Crabgrass, I'm talking about the first volume of the Lost Reel series on Transparency, the second disc. It's an actual class given by Ra and I find it 100% BS and it was making me really dislike Ra, so I'm not listening to it further! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srellek Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 No Crabgrass, I'm talking about the first volume of the Lost Reel series on Transparency, the second disc. It's an actual class given by Ra and I find it 100% BS and it was making me really dislike Ra, so I'm not listening to it further! I would respectfully offer another viewpoint. And I may be in the minority, but I really like Ra's lectures/interviews. The second disc of LOST REEL vol. 1 is an exceptionally rare treasure. When John Szwed had tantalizingly described Sonny's class at UC Berkeley in his great bio, he mentioned that tape records were expressly not allowed, so it's a real treat to have this recording. I can understand why many would rather just listen to the music, but I find this UCB lecture especially entertaining. Ra's humor, intricate wordplay, baffling hermeneutics, street parables, koan contradictions, and generally wonderful non-sense. Fascinating stuff. As Szwed writes, "Sun Ra the southern black man, the jazz musician, the reluctant leader, the recipient of outer-space wisdom, the messenger, the militant, the hippie icon, the avant-gardist, was now Sun Ra, visiting lecturer." (p. 295) Lon, you also mentioned some bonuses from Transparency. I did get the bonus live DVD. What other bonus stuff are you aware of? Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) Well, I just continue to respectfully disagree, that lecture is irritating BS to me, all that "wordplay" and biblical interpretation. . . just baloney. I can't bear to hear it and it tarnishes my opinion of Sonny. I'm pretty tolerant of this sort of thing, but I expected better and it just seemed like madness to me. I've learned to be leary of madness. These first three volumes or so came out at a bad time for my wife and I, and my memory of the sequence is spotty but there was definitely also a two cd "interview" set (radio show where music was played and Sonny was talked to). That may have been the only other extras, or there may have been another. . . Edited February 22, 2008 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Has anyone ever come across a well recorded/performed version of the Sun Ra composition, Face the Music? I heard this live by the posthumous Sun Ra Arkestra at the Knitting Factory a number of years ago and the melody would not (and still has not) leave my head. But I've only ever found one recorded version of the song, and not a very satisfactory version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpedOrb Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) Yeah, it's not too bad. Not piano though. Ra plays wurlitzer, moog, celeste, and something called a "Rokiscord". Now that was one beautiful, crazy SoB. are you confusing purple night and night of the purple moon in your comments? purple night has a weird ghostly sound to it. purple moon does not. but sun ra plays wurlitzer, etc on purple moon. purple night is mostly piano heavy with a little synth. Since I don't own "Purple Night" I'd have to say unequivocally: no I am not. And in answer to, "purple moon does not", I'd have to say unequivocally, yes it does; from my point of view hearing that is. I'm reading about "Purple Night" to get a handle on what you're talking about. Wikipedia says there are 22 members involved. How could that possibly have a distant and lonely sound so it? Especially in comparison to the small group found on "The Night of the Purple Moon" and it's low-fi sound. To each their own I guess and as I haven't heard this album I'll leave the benefit with you. To clarify: I was stating a subjective impression of an album. I wasn't saying 1+1=5, if you know what I mean. Cheers. Edited February 24, 2008 by DemonDuckOfDoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srellek Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Has anyone ever come across a well recorded/performed version of the Sun Ra composition, Face the Music? I heard this live by the posthumous Sun Ra Arkestra at the Knitting Factory a number of years ago and the melody would not (and still has not) leave my head. But I've only ever found one recorded version of the song, and not a very satisfactory version. kh, You're absolutely right, FACE THE MUSIC is infectious. I know of two versions on cd that you can find. The first version (though titled COSMOS SONG) is on the LIVE IN LONDON 1990 cd that is on Blast First. (It was originally a special giveaway from Wire magazine.) And the other is LIVE AT THE HACKNEY EMPIRE, also from 1990 on Leo Records. ..."What do you do when you know that know that you know that you're wrong...?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 3-15-08 Live at The Newport Jazz Festival, 1969 & Live at The Electric Circus, 1968 what what what> ??? is this TRANCEPARENCY? any more detalis on this one yet? wow. wow . wowowoowwowowooww A story on the Newport Concert is here: http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry/articles/newprt69.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Here is more information on the Horseshoe Tavern set: http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=txj...p%3Bincl_cs%3D1 and the 28-CD set from the Detroit Jazz Center concerts in 1980/81: http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=s6j...%3Bformat%3Dall Tracklisting for the "New Horizons": http://www.freshsoundrecords.com/record_po...?record_id=4929 "The Universe Sent Me" is soon coming: http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=tv6...lter%3DSun%2BRa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Anyone pick up the new reissue of "Media Dreams" yet?? How is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycenas Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) I have just picked up the two new Sun Ra box sets and can't wait to dig into them. I really wish the horseshoe had song titles, liner notes, and track breaks! I may have to doctor mine up in Audacity to get individual tracks. I'd be listening to it right now, but I have to work. Boo. Edited February 27, 2008 by cycenas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Anyone pick up the new reissue of "Media Dreams" yet?? How is it? Is it released yet? Dustygroove says it will be out "around" Feb. 25, but they don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hmm.. maybe it was delayed. I can't find it locally either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 From Amazon: "Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below was changed by the supplier, and we need to provide you with a new estimated delivery date based on the new release date: Sun Ra (Artist) "Media Dream [Live]" [Audio CD] Estimated arrival date: 06/03/08 - 13/03/08" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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