Juan Amalbert Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 (edited) Thank you all I found you while makeing a search of my own recordings on thru Google. It's my honor to be among all of you. As for "Swing" it's a cover word for a time signature or time meter. As for the quote by mr A. S., the one musician mentioned by Joseph P. Schillinger, who by the way was mr. Artie S. teacher, said that "Duke" Ellington is the "Master" of pure swing. This may be found in his books , The Schillinger System Of Musical Composition copyright 1941. As for Clave it's a latin word, may I suggest that every musician should check out its meaning. After that I may try and help all to understand its importance in all musics. Any help that I can give a member please, contact me. Best regards to all. Musically, Juan Amalbert A K A Emmanuel Abdul-Rahim www.eastwestrecords.com/ Edited May 27, 2004 by Juan Amalbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Looking forward to your posts, Juan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricaBrass Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Juan, Welcome to the board! We're honored by your presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Amalbert Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 So Juan, how did you find us? (and what's a clave anyhow? ) For drummers it's a pain in the ass to play (pardon my English). Unless you have it in your blood, of course. http://www.geocities.com/sd_au/clavetheory/clavetheory3.htm Cheers! I did check the site you mentioned, and I must say that the "theory" here is quite "Hybrid." In other words not musically correct in the notation, whether it is 2-3 clave or 3-2 clave as they try to describe it. First, let me say that should one notate a clave in 4/4 it will never sound correct when it is read by a musician who should play it. Musically, Juan Amalbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 So Juan, how did you find us? (and what's a clave anyhow? ) For drummers it's a pain in the ass to play (pardon my English). Unless you have it in your blood, of course. http://www.geocities.com/sd_au/clavetheory/clavetheory3.htm Cheers! I did check the site you mentioned, and I must say that the "theory" here is quite "Hybrid." In other words not musically correct in the notation, whether it is 2-3 clave or 3-2 clave as they try to describe it. First, let me say that should one notate a clave in 4/4 it will never sound correct when it is read by a musician who should play it. Musically, Juan Amalbert Hi Juan, you're right of course. I just took the first link that popped up. The clave is, for us Europeans, quite a complicated thing. It's the feel of it. I remember a (from Brazil) drummer I met not so long ago who basically said (I'm paraphrasing here):" You're not gonna get it anyways, so just drop it!" The notation is just squeezed into a scheme most people here are familiar with, and I've seen it like this or similar many times. But if you don't know what it is, you're just gonna get a mechanical-sounding thingie that's about as far removed as possible. I have one excellent notation (or: an attempt at notation) from a German drummer magazine called "Sticks" ... I'll try to find it in my piles of mags floating around here. I'll scan it, if I can get my fingers on it. And, welcome to the board! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Welcome aboard Juan, glad to have you here!!! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Amalbert Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Welcome aboard Juan, glad to have you here!!! Mark Thank you Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 OMG 8 years for a response??!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Amalbert Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 So Juan, how did you find us? (and what's a clave anyhow? ) For drummers it's a pain in the ass to play (pardon my English). Unless you have it in your blood, of course. http://www.geocities.com/sd_au/clavetheory/clavetheory3.htm Cheers! I did check the site you mentioned, and I must say that the "theory" here is quite "Hybrid." In other words not musically correct in the notation, whether it is 2-3 clave or 3-2 clave as they try to describe it. First, let me say that should one notate a clave in 4/4 it will never sound correct when it is read by a musician who should play it. Musically, Juan Amalbert Hi Juan, you're right of course. I just took the first link that popped up. The clave is, for us Europeans, quite a complicated thing. It's the feel of it. I remember a (from Brazil) drummer I met not so long ago who basically said (I'm paraphrasing here):" You're not gonna get it anyways, so just drop it!" The notation is just squeezed into a scheme most people here are familiar with, and I've seen it like this or similar many times. But if you don't know what it is, you're just gonna get a mechanical-sounding thingie that's about as far removed as possible. I have one excellent notation (or: an attempt at notation) from a German drummer magazine called "Sticks" ... I'll try to find it in my piles of mags floating around here. I'll scan it, if I can get my fingers on it. And, welcome to the board! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Amalbert Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 There is a new CD release of "MY People" by Duke Ellington, in the complete form 25 tracks. Also there is another release of Duke Ellington's "The Jaywalker". Both CD I composed the percussion parts for Ellington, at his request. Please, read the notes on both CD's at it will explain how Ellington ask me to join his orchestra and do the percussion parts with his musics, in "clave". Regards, Juan Amalbert a/k/a/ Emmanuel Abdul-Rahim www.eastwestrecords.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I started reading this thread and thought for a moment that couw was back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I started reading this thread and thought for a moment that couw was back. So did I SO, how did you find the board, Jim? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon8 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I think I found the forum while looking for unheard/undersung/neglected jazz records. I used to take part of the jazz forum on amazon, but got tired of the (surreal) bikering that often took place there. Glad to have found organissimo. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I was looking for cheap healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 We can supply that but it will not be inexpensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cih Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I used to take part of the jazz forum on amazon, but got tired of the (surreal) bikering that often took place there. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon8 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) !! That is surreal bikering (sic). Edited June 29, 2012 by Simon8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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