mikeweil Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 It's a very nice album, but of all the Young/Green collaborations, it is at the bottom of my list. As much as I love Mobley, I think he is not the ideal saxist for them. Mellow, but a little sleepy compared to the fireworks of the others. Well, forget what I just said - get the Mosaic, and be happy ... Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 Is this a 'rare' album, to an extent? I will probaly have to order it? Is it my best bet that I wont find it at Borders? I should check out some vinyl stores. Borders tends to stock a lot of Grant Green, or has in the relatively recent past. So if you like your brick and mortar shop, I'd try there first. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 (edited) To me, Hank really MAKES Hold Your Hand the great album that it is. His lines are beautiful.... And his tone on this is really something. Edited January 19, 2005 by Soul Stream Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Posted January 19, 2005 It's a very nice album, but of all the Young/Green collaborations, it is at the bottom of my list. As much as I love Mobley, I think he is not the ideal saxist for them. Mellow, but a little sleepy compared to the fireworks of the others. Well, forget what I just said - get the Mosaic, and be happy ... Mike, i dig your avatar!!! Quote
Guest akanalog Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 weak AS WELL not weak AS HELL not that is matters. hehe. i will relisten to IWTHYH. perhaps time has changed my opinion. Quote
wolff Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Just because an album is sleepy or mellow does not make it weak. It makes it not to your liking. Do you have to have fireworks all the time? Quote
wolff Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 (edited) Is this a 'rare' album, to an extent? I should check out some vinyl stores. On vinyl? I'd say yes. I do not think it is in print. Good luck finding it in a used shop. Try eBay if you want it quick. Edited January 20, 2005 by wolff Quote
wolff Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 To me, Hank really MAKES Hold Your Hand the great album that it is. His lines are beautiful.... And his tone on this is really something. I agree with this. Silver's vote for most lyrical tenor shows why. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Posted January 20, 2005 Is this a 'rare' album, to an extent? I should check out some vinyl stores. On vinyl? I'd say yes. I do not think it is in print. Good luck finding it in a used shop. Try eBay if you want it quick. Well with vinyl shops, its all upon luck. Whatever album might be 'rare' or 'not rare' doesn't really come into play. You gotta rely on these old kats bringing in their old lp's which they do not play anymore, so maybe this album might show up. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 You'd have better luck finding it on CD. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Posted January 20, 2005 You'd be surprised what I could find at my old vinyl shop, but I'll take your word for it. Quote
Brad Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 It's a very nice album, but of all the Young/Green collaborations, it is at the bottom of my list. As much as I love Mobley, I think he is not the ideal saxist for them. Mellow, but a little sleepy compared to the fireworks of the others. Well, forget what I just said - get the Mosaic, and be happy ... Couldn't disagree more. Hank fits in perfectly there with the mood of this album. But to each his own. We've disagreed more and I expect we'll do it again. Quote
Nate Dorward Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 (edited) It's an OK album but it's rather patchy, I think ("Corcovado" & "Stella" being the main culprits). Still, basically everything with the Green/Young/Jones team is close to essential. They ought to have recorded more. I don't, frankly, see the point of getting the Larry Young Mosaic because 1) it's frickin' annoying: most of the best albums (Unity & Into Something) are split over two discs 2) all the best material (all of discs 1 through 4 plus Mother Ship on disc 6) is now available as standalone CDs, with the original cover art. (The two duds in the batch are Contrasts & Heaven on Earth, which take up most of discs 5 & 6, & arguably Of Peace & Love isn't so hot either. All three albums have their moments, but basically things get hitormiss after Unity.) Edited January 20, 2005 by Nate Dorward Quote
Jim R Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 I think STREET (not streets) OF DREAMS is definitely a stronger album than IWTHYH. SOD (apoligies to any brits who may be reading this) has a better set of songs for Grant to sing, IMO. It's got a nice consistent vibe (no pun intended) running through it, while IWTHYH has some weak spots for me (the title track, as well as "Corcovado")...(and I've got nothing against Jobim tunes!). I haven't played it in awhile, so maybe I'd agree with Nate about Stella as well... Quote
mikeweil Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 It's a very nice album, but of all the Young/Green collaborations, it is at the bottom of my list. As much as I love Mobley, I think he is not the ideal saxist for them. Mellow, but a little sleepy compared to the fireworks of the others. Well, forget what I just said - get the Mosaic, and be happy ... Couldn't disagree more. Hank fits in perfectly there with the mood of this album. But to each his own. We've disagreed more and I expect we'll do it again. No problem, just a matter of taste. I remember when I bought my first Japanese CD of IWTHYH I was somewhat disappointed - I never liked Green or Mobley that muhc with pop tunes or bossa novas. Of all Young/Green led albums, I like those led by Young much better, on an average. By no means I want to put this album down - I like it. I just like the others better. And of course I don't expect fireworks all the time. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 I guess there's no point arguing which of these albums are "better." Hell, they're all masterpieces. Quote
mikeweil Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 I guess there's no point arguing which of these albums are "better." Hell, they're all masterpieces. Amen to that! Quote
David Ayers Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 A TOCJ 24 of this is due in March. Worth waiting for maybe? Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 It's an OK album but it's rather patchy, I think ("Corcovado" & "Stella" being the main culprits). Still, basically everything with the Green/Young/Jones team is close to essential. They ought to have recorded more. I don't, frankly, see the point of getting the Larry Young Mosaic because 1) it's frickin' annoying: most of the best albums (Unity & Into Something) are split over two discs 2) all the best material (all of discs 1 through 4 plus Mother Ship on disc 6) is now available as standalone CDs, with the original cover art. (The two duds in the batch are Contrasts & Heaven on Earth, which take up most of discs 5 & 6, & arguably Of Peace & Love isn't so hot either. All three albums have their moments, but basically things get hitormiss after Unity.) I feel the same way. However, I have never heard "Contrasts" or "Heaven and Earth" "Of Love and Peace" is weak for sure. Not so sure I want to hear the above two after being disappointed with OLAP. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Posted January 20, 2005 What musicians are on Contrasts? Quote
Nate Dorward Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 Of Love & Peace is very different from the next two. It's his "free jazz" disc (it has its moments but it's basically a letdown after Unity). The next two are rather commercial efforts, with a lot of funky numbers, (awful) vocals by his wife Althea, & George Benson on guitar. There are about 4-5 good tracks between them, notably the duos with Eddie Gladden, "Major Affair" & "The Cradle" (esp. the former). Exact details: Contrasts, recorded Sep 18 1967 Tyrone Washington, Herbert Morgan, ts Hank White, flg Larry Young, org Eddie Wright, g Eddie Gladden, d Stacey Edwards, conga Althea Young, vcl on "Wild Is the Wind" Evening / Majestic Soul / Means Happiness / Major Affair / Tender Feelings / Wild Is the Wind Heaven on Earth, recorded Feb 9 1968 Byard Lancaster, as, fl Herbert Morgan, ts Larry Young, org George Benson, g Eddie Gladden, d Althea Young, vcl on "My Funny Valentine" Call Me / The Infant / The Cradle / Heaven on Earth / The Hereafter / My Funny Valentine Quote
scottb Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 Contrasts, recorded Sep 18 1967 Tyrone Washington, Herbert Morgan, ts Hank White, flg Larry Young, org Eddie Wright, g Eddie Gladden, d Stacey Edwards, conga Althea Young, vcl on "Wild Is the Wind" Evening / Majestic Soul / Means Happiness / Major Affair / Tender Feelings / Wild Is the Wind Heaven on Earth, recorded Feb 9 1968 Byard Lancaster, as, fl Herbert Morgan, ts Larry Young, org George Benson, g Eddie Gladden, d Althea Young, vcl on "My Funny Valentine" Call Me / The Infant / The Cradle / Heaven on Earth / The Hereafter / My Funny Valentine See B3er, Jazz Kat knew where this thread was heading! This definitely needs to go back to Discography! Quote
wesbed Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Is this a 'rare' album, to an extent? I will probaly have to order it? Is it my best bet that I wont find it at Borders? I should check out some vinyl stores. My local Barnes & Noble always has a copy of I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND (on CD) in stock. Check your B&N, the Grant Green might be on the shelf waiting for you. I've never seen the title at my local Border's store. Edited January 21, 2005 by wesbed Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Posted January 21, 2005 nah, its not. My B&S stock of jazz cd's is pitiful!!1 The classical section is bigger than the jazz section! So the case being, "we don't want to stock anything other than popular music," doesn't apply here, which makes me say, why. Borders, will always be my num. 1 choice for cd's, even though they do not have IWTHYH in stock, or shelved. Quote
Guest akanalog Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 i like "of love and peace". it has its own sound and i really like two drummers. it is messy and sort of formless at points, but it is interesting also and in the right mood, it is pretty cool. Quote
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