tranemonk Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 okay thanks to Ron S... I (hopefully) will have the Farlow set.... I was checking out the Gerald Wilson set.. songs online are smoking.... Does anyone have the set???? And/or a review??? Hmmmmmm B-) I must admit this has become quite the dilemma.... Quote
Ron S Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 okay thanks to Ron S... I (hopefully) will have the Farlow set.... Hopefully? Quote
BFrank Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 Oh, yeah.....it's SMOKIN' alright! Quote
wesbed Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 Be aware that many of the songs on one of the disks in the Gerald Wilson set are remakes of 1960s popular/rock tunes. Tunes such as Light My Fire. I didn't like these songs at first... later, started enjoying them. Quote
BFrank Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 You could pick up Gerald's recent "New York New Sound", which will give you a taste. He reprises a few of the tunes in the Mosaic set, as well - "Milestones", "Viva Tirado", "Blues for Yna Yna". BTW, if you're a member of eMusic, it's available there. Quote
AfricaBrass Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 I LOVE this set. It's one of the few I pre-ordered. I still think the Roach set is worth investigating. Quote
Ron S Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 I LOVE this set. It's one of the few I pre-ordered. I still think the Roach set is worth investigating. (And the Nabors! Don't forget the NABORS!!!) Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 Be aware that many of the songs on one of the disks in the Gerald Wilson set are remakes of 1960s popular/rock tunes. Tunes such as Light My Fire. I didn't like these songs at first... later, started enjoying them. The pop/rock covers make up but one out of a total of 10 LP's worth of material. Yeah, they're a little corny, but they've grown on me a bit as well. Fully 80% of the Gerald Wilson set is absolutely top-drawer ( !!!!!), with 10% that's maybe a little less than top-drawer (but still very good), and then that last 10% made up the "pop/rock covers" material. I love the set, and would buy it again in a heartbeat. Quote
tranemonk Posted February 6, 2005 Author Report Posted February 6, 2005 okay thanks to Ron S... I (hopefully) will have the Farlow set.... Hopefully? I just never ordered from them before... I've done other Amazon merchants and its' always been fine... so I'm sure this will be great... thanks for the tip!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Ron S Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 okay thanks to Ron S... I (hopefully) will have the Farlow set.... Hopefully? I just never ordered from them before... I've done other Amazon merchants and its' always been fine... so I'm sure this will be great... thanks for the tip!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll take care of you--I know where the federal courthouse is in Miami and if Caiman doesn't come through, we'll sue 'em! Quote
Dennis_M Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 Fully 80% of the Gerald Wilson set is absolutely top-drawer ( !!!!!), with 10% that's maybe a little less than top-drawer (but still very good), and then that last 10% made up the "pop/rock covers" material. This assessment is right on target. This is a "must buy" set for anybody even remotely interested in big bands. Dennis Quote
BFrank Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 Just a few of the players:Charles TolliverHarold LandTeddy EdwardsCarmell JonesBud ShankMel Lewis Quote
Brad Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 I'll probably get this eventually but have been put off by some of the pop cover tunes. It's not a set that's grabbed me to go get it. Can't give a good reason other than that. Quote
BFrank Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 I'll probably get this eventually but have been put off by some of the pop cover tunes. It's not a set that's grabbed me to go get it. Can't give a good reason other than that. Don't let the pop tunes put you off. As Rooster said, it's only about 10% of the set. The rest is top-shelf stuff. In fact, I've had this box for a couple of years and still haven't opened the seal on disk #5. I'm totally satisfied with #1-4. Quote
Quincy Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 Another piling on and recommending the Gerald Wilson. I too waited a long time to buy it, as my only post '40s big band experience was Basie and Ellington and I was too busy adding to the Ellington. I was for some silly reason suspicious of more modern West Coast big band music. Why I don't know. I also looked at "Yesterday" and "Aquarius" and "Light My Fire" and turned up my nose for awhile. But luckily I decided that at worst if one disc was unplayable, then I was paying $20 a disc. I'd just pretend that I was buying Japanese discs, and given the Malcom Addey mastering why not pay extra? There is so much to like about the set, but Harold Land & Teddy Edwards are just 2 great reasons to pick it up. I ended up getting the Carmell Jones Select not long after getting this, just to get more of him and Harold Land. And Gerald Wilson. It's great music. It's fun music too. And it's beautifully mastered. Maybe you'll even end up liking some of the pop songs, but that doesn't matter. The rest makes up for it (and then some.) Quote
wesbed Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 (edited) I ended up getting the Carmell Jones Select not long after getting this, just to get more of him and Harold Land. And Gerald Wilson. I purchased the Mosaic titles in just the opposite direction. I ordered the Carmell Jones Select first, then ordered the Gerald Wilson Complete. I wanted to get more of the Gerald Wilson I'd heard via the Carmell Select. I posted earlier in this thread that one of the disks is comprised of 1960s rock tunes. What I wrote is true. However, to agree with other posters in this thread, the one disk should not be a reason to skip the set. The rest of the tunes in the Wilson box are very good. Wilson has the ability to create a very warm & cozy environment for the instruments to dance within. To my ears, Gerald Wilson's take on 'Milestones' is one of the best interpretions I've had the pleasure of experiencing. Even the disk of 1960s popular tunes has become a friend. Edited February 6, 2005 by wesbed Quote
Free For All Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 Even the disk of 1960s popular tunes has become a friend. I agree- I've always liked that one. Perhaps it's not for everyone, but by no means does it *ruin* the set. Quote
BFrank Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 FWIW, Gerald does some fine arranging throughout Johnny Hartman's "Unforgettable" album on Impulse. Quote
Free For All Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 FWIW, Gerald does some fine arranging throughout Johnny Hartman's "Unforgettable" album on Impulse. Yes he does!! Quote
BFrank Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 FWIW, Gerald does some fine arranging throughout Johnny Hartman's "Unforgettable" album on Impulse. Yes he does!! That's the ONE! Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 Oh, yeah.....it's SMOKIN' alright! I've just ordered this set on cd. Quote
BFrank Posted February 6, 2005 Report Posted February 6, 2005 Good move, Conn. You won't regret it! B-) Quote
tranemonk Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Posted February 7, 2005 I'm about to hijack my own thread.... Hey Ron S.... Sorry about your Eagles man.... I live in Boston and I kinda knew what was going to happen... but jeez do the Eagles know how to run a 2 minute drill???? Great game though.... You guys played us a lot tougher than they EXTREMELY OverBLOWN AND OVERHYPED Peyton Manning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Going for a three-peat!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Ron S Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 I'm about to hijack my own thread.... Hey Ron S.... Sorry about your Eagles man.... I live in Boston and I kinda knew what was going to happen... but jeez do the Eagles know how to run a 2 minute drill???? Great game though.... You guys played us a lot tougher than they EXTREMELY OverBLOWN AND OVERHYPED Peyton Manning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Going for a three-peat!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats to you and your Beantown buds, tranemonk. Wow, what a year for you guys, between the Pats and the Sox. Yeah, like every other Eagles fan, I was screaming at the TV when they kept breaking for huddles towards the end. Maybe Andy Reid didn't want things moving too quickly in light of McNabb's 2 previous interceptions. It obviously didn't help, since he then threw interception number 3. The Eagles have brought us sooooooooo close for the last four years--one step closer this year--but still no Promised Land. Oh well. As they're saying around here now, NEXT YEAR IN DETROIT! [We now return you to the Gerald Wilson thread already in progress] Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Oh, yeah.....it's SMOKIN' alright! I've just ordered this set on cd. I'm sure you'll love it. I know one of your nits about Mosaic is that they don't present stuff in LP order, but I think they do on this set. Plus, none of the albums/sessions are split across multiple discs(!!!). 10 LP's on 5 discs, 2-LP's-per-disc in every case. Suspect you'll probably like the "pop" material too. Quote
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