Christiern Posted October 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 No "might" about it, these were the Newman recordings—I just forgot to mention that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Can I nominate this as the best thread on Organissimo forums? I second that. Geez, Chris....I had no idea how much and how far back you were involved with Jazz. Either you've been holding out on me or I need to get out more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Twizzle Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm not a CA stalker, but I did save an image of this 1970 letter to the editor in Rolling Stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm not a CA stalker, but I did save an image of this 1970 letter to the editor in Rolling Stone. I always that whatever he was thinking Mingus stayed onstage but was badly recorded. Aren't both versions (dubbed bass and original bass) now available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I'm not Nessa (though I am currently playing him in a series on Fox) but yes, I do believe Mingus played the whole concert and overdubbed afterwards because he thought his bass was badly recorded - and one can still find versions of Massey Hall with the original bass line which, ironically or not, sounds MUCH better than the overdubbed version - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I'm not Nessa (though I am currently playing him in a series on Fox) but yes, I do believe Mingus played the whole concert and overdubbed afterwards because he thought his bass was badly recorded - and one can still find versions of Massey Hall with the original bass line which, ironically or not, sounds MUCH better than the overdubbed version - The undubbed version and the dubbed version were both released in the Mingus Debut box, the first release of the undubbed version, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Allen Lowe is correct about Mingus playing throughout the Massey Hall concert. I was there - one of the 700 or so people who bothered to attend - and I can attest to the fact that although Mingus was obviously pissed off by Dizzy's clowning he never once left the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 That sounds to me like something that you could make some cash off of Chris but a search for "TWA" and "saucer" just in the title finds three current auctions of the same items. A Buy it Now for $18, and two regular auctions that are running out with no bids. Then again, those are people selling individual sets, not a group of 7. Checking completed items, it looks like individual sets have sold recently for $9. So, not something that will get bids like an original BN but ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Thank you, Don—that settles that. ...and, in an interview I did with Mingus, he said that he was under-recorded, necessitating the over-recording, but that the studio engineer couldn't properly sync him with the original. As a result, two bass tracks can sometimes be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 i really enjoy the personal items from your life that you have shared chris. was there ever a mrs? kids? if i am being impertinent please excuse me and ignore the question. i am just trying to complete the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) thanks chris i missed that the first time around! o.k. i'll play - here is a very blurry cell phone pic of me and kenny drew jr. from january 2007. he was in a strange mood that night after his performance. Edited October 5, 2008 by Bright Moments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 by the way i am wearing my favorite t-shirt in the picture - sonny rollins!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 An awesome thread, Chris. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks for all this Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 thank you for this awesome thread!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) Is that Wellman Braud? Edited October 8, 2008 by marcello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blajay Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Guess my friend, Karl, left this behind in my apartment... Anyone know if those out-takes ever made it out of Guilford? He left the 16 master tapes in your apartment, or that label??! Amazing, if you mean the reels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Chris, Do you have anything from Ray Brown or Jackie McClean or Ella Fitzgerald or Joe Williams or Miles Davis or Lee Morgan any of the folks from the Be Bop era of Jazz? Edited October 10, 2008 by GoodSpeak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 With regard to Frank Kofsky, I found an article about a posthumous meeting celebrating his work. In light of the exchanges above, this passage was especially amusing: Messages from friends and colleagues around the country, read by his wife, Bonnie Kofsky, and others characterized Kofsky as "a man of passion," someone who "loved a good argument," and one who "vigorously defended his views." Several, including colleague Joe Morrow, noted the fight that Kofsky - an outspoken partisan of the movements against the Vietnam War and for Black rights - had to wage to keep his teaching post. A number of the messages noted, as one put it, that Kofsky had a "quality that allowed him to take seriously the views of those with whom he disagreed and propose they continue the discussion." A former student told of a series of lectures Kofsky gave on the Vietnam War, which were attended by several veterans, some of whom still defended the U.S. role in that war. "The discussions were quite heated," she recalled, "but Frank always left them with a sense that while he disagreed with their views, he respected them." http://www.themilitant.com/1998/623/623_16.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 WNEW Second Annual American Swing Festival Second Annual American Swing Festival. February 4, 1945. Program #1. WNEW, New York. Sustaining. 10:45 P. M. A tribute to Fats Waller. Tommy Dorsey, Mildred Bailey, James P. Johnson, Pat Flowers, The Fats Waller Band, Ed Kirkeby, Connie Green (writer), George Foster (director), Jerry Marshall (announcer). 29:35. Audio condition: Very good to excellent. Complete. Second Annual American Swing Festival. February 7, 1945. Program #4. WNEW, New York. Sustaining. A Tribute to Fats Waller. Ed Kirkeby (Fats' friend and manager) narrates a biography of Fats in 1929 and 1930. Pat Flowers imitates Fats (quite well!). Martin Block and Count Basie appear by transcription. A fine rendition of "Jitterbug Waltz" featured. Ed Kirkeby (narrator), Pat Flowers, Martin Block, Count Basie. 13:53. Audio condition: Excellent. Complete. Second Annual American Swing Festival. February 8, 1945. Program #5. WNEW, New York. Sustaining. A Tribute to Fats Waller. Pat Flowers plays in Fats' style and sounds just like him. The story Fats' life from 1930 to 1935 is told. Ed Kirkeby (narrator), Pat Flowers, Red McKenzie. 13:04. Audio condition: Excellent. Complete. Second Annual American Swing Festival. February 9, 1945. Program #6. WNEW, New York. Sustaining. A Tribute to Fats Waller. The story of Fats' life from 1937 to 1942 is narrated by Ed Kirkeby. Pat Flowers plays and sings in Fats' style. Some of Fats' records are played. Ed Kirkeby, Pat Flowers, Martin Block, Fats Waller, Taylor Grant (announcing). 14:08. Audio condition: Very good. Complete. Second Annual American Swing Festival. February 11, 1945. Program #7. WNEW, New York. Sustaining. The last of the series. Pat Flowers and Fats' original band perform live, in-studio. Ed Kirkeby (narrator), Jerry Marshall (announcer), Pat Flowers, Fats Waller's Original Band, Una Mae Carlisle, Red Norvo, Louis Armstrong, James P. Johnson, Richard Kollmar. 30:11. Audio condition: Very good. Complete. I found the above listing when I Googled WNEW's Second Annual Swing Festival. The airchecks are apparently preserved and available, somewhere, from a guy named Goldin. When I was at WNEW, 20 years later, they were getting ready to throw out a bunch of stuff, including some photos from that very festival. Although I have been Drigged a couple of times, these photos are still here and I am posting 3 this time. This is Ed Kirkeby (Waller's manager), with James C. Johnson (sometime Waller co-writer), and Una Mae Carlisle. Here Kirkeby with Louis. Here's Kirkeby with two guys whose faces don't look familiar to me—anyone here recognize them? I met Kirkeby a few times in my early years here. A character, he was, still wearing spats in the early '60s. Looks like K with Joe Sullivan and Harry James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 No, Chuck, Not Sullivan or James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 No, Chuck, Not Sullivan or James. So, who are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 A number of the messages noted, as one put it, that Kofsky had a "quality that allowed him to take seriously the views of those with whom he disagreed and propose they continue the discussion." A former student told of a series of lectures Kofsky gave on the Vietnam War, which were attended by several veterans, some of whom still defended the U.S. role in that war. "The discussions were quite heated," she recalled, "but Frank always left them with a sense that while he disagreed with their views, he respected them." http://www.themilitant.com/1998/623/623_16.html Based on the exchange with Chris, I can only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I would guess that they're staff announcers, Chuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 That '67 photo looks like a head shot for a hyper-serious TV news anchor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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