AfricaBrass Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 I wasn't around when stereo was first introduced and I'm interested in finding out when the transition to stereo occured. I know Blue Note first released stereo recordings in 1959 with the 4000 series, but what about the other labels? When did they release their first stereo lps? Thanks! Quote
jazzbo Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 (edited) Started happening as far as I can tell in the jazz field around 1957 through 1958, though mono was still the major thing for a long time, and mono records were still released for a decade or longer. I know that there are some stereo jazz recordings (Tristano/Konitz)(recorded but not necessarily released in stereo at the time) as early as 1955. Most of the majors seem to have hit upon it in 1957 . . . ? Columbia did some beautiful beautiful beautiful stereo stuff in 1957 and 1958. . . . Edited March 15, 2005 by jazzbo Quote
Stefan Wood Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 Stereo made headway in the mid 50's with recordings from RCA and Mercury, though they were initially sold well on reel to reel tape, then vinyl. 1958 is the key year for many initial stereo releases on vinyl. Quote
Daniel A Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 Nice page (can't judge the accuracy, though): * I Can’t Keep Up With All The Formats * Quote
AfricaBrass Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Posted March 15, 2005 Thanks for all your help! :rsmile: Quote
Daniel A Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 (edited) As far as jazz recordings are concerned, I don't think there's anything before this (1956), and from what I can remember in this case the stereo master was concieved long afterwards by mixing together two entirely separate recordings. Edited March 15, 2005 by Daniel A Quote
jazzbo Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 The earliest real tape stereo I know of in jazz is the live material recorded at the Chinese restaurant of Konitz with Tristano that appeared in the Mosaic set. Beautiful sound too! 1955! Quote
kenny weir Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 (edited) I picked up a cheap copy, on Candid, of the Bud Shank album Live At The Haig a few months' back. Not only is this gerat music - it's in stereo, recorded in 1956. The liner notes claim the tracks to be "pre-stereo stereo". I'm not sure how true that is, but for what seems to have been an impromptu recording with two microphones in the audience, the sound is not only stereo but it's bloody amazing! Edited March 15, 2005 by kenny weir Quote
Harold_Z Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) I vaugely remember something about one of the Wilbur De Paris Atlantics being among the first or THE first stereo Jazz record. I think 1957 was the year that Stereo lps first became available. Edited March 16, 2005 by Harold_Z Quote
GA Russell Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 In 1969 mono was phased out, replaced with a stereo "compatible" with mono record players. This was much like the phase-out of LPs. The stores quit stocking them, so the buyer didn't have any choice. Quote
Bill Nelson Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 In 1969, buyers didn't have a choice to buy mono LPs because they weren't being made (unless you copped mono DJ copies thru 1972). For just a few more years into the 70's, you might score DJ singles with one side mono (usually a 'fold-down' from the stereo master). There's probably some indie labels which persevered with the mono format in the early 70's, but '69 is the cut-off year when the majors declared mono dead. Quote
Stereojack Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 I vaugely remember something about one of the Wilbur De Paris Atlantics being among the first or THE first stereo Jazz record. Tom Dowd at Atlantic was one of the first engineers to experiment with stereo. He was recording in stereo as early as 1955, although the company probably didn't release anything in stereo that early. Several companies were releasing stereo recordings on reel-to-reel tape starting around 1956. The first stereo LP's came out in 1957. Rudy Van Gelder first recorded in stereo in 1957. Since he was the engineer for just about everything on Blue Note, Prestige, & Savoy at the time, these labels began to release stereo LP's the following year. Many companies were experimenting with stereo early on, although the stereo masters stayed in the can for many years. A few instances I can think of: Nat King Cole - Love Is the Thing (rec. 1956) Miles Davis - Miles Ahead (1957) Recently I discovered a 1954 Cal Tjader date that is in stereo, but don't know the circumstances. jack Quote
brownie Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 In 1969 mono was phased out, replaced with a stereo "compatible" with mono record players. This was much like the phase-out of LPs. The stores quit stocking them, so the buyer didn't have any choice. I have been mourning monos ever since I still remember the frustration of acquiring mono copies in the late sixties! Quote
Stereojack Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 I stand corrected. Dowd certainly was not the first. RCA made several experimental recordings in the early 1930's, the most famous of which are the Duke Ellington medleys recorded in 1932, formerly issued on Everybody's (LP) and Natasha (CD). The best sounding versions can currently be heard on the Ellington Centennial box. Film companies were making stereo recordings in the 1940's, and some of the music has been issued in stereo on CD. I'm thinking of a series that comes from MGM musicals with Fred Astaire & others. As far as a practical application to commercial recordings, Dowd is an important pioneer in the field. Quote
AfricaBrass Posted March 16, 2005 Author Report Posted March 16, 2005 As far as a practical application to commercial recordings, Dowd is an important pioneer in the field. Dowd was incredible - a great loss... -_- I never knew about Dowd's contribution until I saw that recent film about him. Wow! Thanks again for all the information! Quote
Bluerein Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 I remember hearing a stereo recording of the Berliner Philharmoniker during the war on which you could hear the bombs falling. No joking! So that must be around 1944 I guess. Not the first I know but it sounded good. Quote
AfricaBrass Posted March 17, 2005 Author Report Posted March 17, 2005 I remember hearing a stereo recording of the Berliner Philharmoniker during the war on which you could hear the bombs falling. No joking! So that must be around 1944 I guess. Not the first I know but it sounded good. Wow! That must be an amazing recording. I'd love to hear that. Quote
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