chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 are any of you jazz-fans familar w/ this item? how is it? Quote
brownie Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Another one to get. Bird played splendidly with that great Herman Herd. He was making a hometown appearance. Interesting Bird solo on 'Four Brothers'. Quote
JSngry Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Definitely one to get. Recording's not nearly as good as the DC thing, but I think the playing's better by all concerned. Quote
JSngry Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Interesting Bird solo on 'Four Brothers'. Yeah, you could tell that he didn't know the bridge. 1st chorus is just kinda "well, let me hear how this goes", 2nd is "ok, it goes like this, right?", and the 3rd is pretty much all the way there. Quote
Free For All Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 It's a decently recorded and great document of Bird hanging out with Woody's Herd. You just know the guys in the band were thrilled to have Bird sit in. The most interesting thing IMHO about the recording is Bird's performance on Four Brothers. He plays all the solo spots which are usually portioned out to the saxophones, and we get to basically hear Bird learn the tune as he plays it. He stumbles over a couple changes at first (and the modulation takes him by surprise) but the speed with which he learns the tune on the spot (and these are not your ordinary changes) is stunning. The man had some serious ears! A must-have! Quote
kh1958 Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 I wouldn't pass by the recording with the Orchestra either. It's good. Plus, on the CD reissue, The Washington Concerts, there is 35 minutes of additional music of Bird from two other performances in D.C., in small groups, where he is in great form. These added tracks are actually better than the tracks with the Orchestra. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) I've got a Kansas City question (for Spontoonie, or whomever else can answer it) Was/is the "Municipal Arena" where this was recorded... ...was/is this the same basketball arena that's located in the Kansas City Municipal Auditorium, the one built in 1936, meaning the same complex as the "Music Hall"?? (The entire city block between 13th and 14th streets, and Central and Wyandotte.) Municipal Auditorium - Kansas City, MO If not, what was (is?) -- and where was (is?) -- the "Municipal Arena" in KC?? (Every search on google for "Municipal Arena" "Kansas City" results in the "Municipal Auditorium Arena" pictured above. This thing seats OVER 10,000 people!!! (I've been in it a number of times, though never for a musical event. It's the rain-location for the Kansas City Symphony's special "outdoor" concerts, you know - the Memorial Day "feel-good" pops shows, and such (that are normally outside, in front of union station). Sound Quality in anything described as an "arena" in 1951 --- is not something that I'd have high hopes about. Still, no matter what the venue was -- it must have been a BIG crowd, to have booked any kind of live musical act into anything called an "arena". (Yeah, I know "arenas" back then are not the arenas of today. But still, in terms of sound quality issues, you're talkin' about a glorified, oversized gynasium, at best -- me thinks. Edited December 6, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS SUCH AN IDIOT FOR NOT BUYIN IT 3 WKS AGO. THANK GOD NO ONE WAS SMART ENOUGH TO GET IT> OH GOD. AND ONLY 8 BIG ONES> EIGHT! Bird Flies with 'The Herd' Also Clifford Brown (Mainman BFWH CB 617) SIDE A: BIRD FLIES WITH "THE HEARD" CHARLIE PARKER & THAT THUNDERIN' HERD SIDE B: THE INSPIRED TRUMPET ARTISTRY OF CLIFFORD BROWN- NEVER AVAIABLE ANYWHERE! HIS ONLY GOLDEN BROADCAST! then also on side b is "groovin high' again by bird from 1945 originally on GUILD records I AM SO HAPPY. I AM SO HAPPY. BUT I AM MAD EVERYTIME I GO TO THE STORE THE BIRD CD SELECTION IS THE SAME OLD STUFF>>>>> TOO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED AND I THINK ALL THIS BOOTLEG BIRD SHOULD JUST BE PRESSED AND RELEASED- DOES ANYONE REALLY OWN THE RIGHTS TO ANY OF IT ANYWAY> WHY DONT THEY JUST RELEASE IT ALL> EVERYONE SHOULD HEAR WOODY N BIRD. EVEN THOUGH I HEARD THAT WOODY H. WAS **THE** MOST CALLAUS, NO-GOOD, DESPICTIBLE SON-OF-A-BITCH EVER TO GRACE THE BANDSTAND, SO BAD HE MAKES BUDDY RICH SEEM LIKE MR. ROGERS. Quote
Free For All Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 I HEARD THAT WOODY H. WAS **THE** MOST CALLAUS, NO-GOOD, DESPICTIBLE SON-OF-A-BITCH EVER TO GRACE THE BANDSTAND, SO BAD HE MAKES BUDDY RICH SEEM LIKE MR. ROGERS. You know, like most of the bandleaders, Woody could be a sonofabich at times, but your statement is way over the top. Woody was a great bandleader and most often a generous and caring person. I got to see both sides, and I remember the good stuff way more than the bad. Your "source" is full of it, chewy! And congrats on getting Bird with the Herd. I think you'll enjoy it. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Posted December 7, 2006 well just splurged and also got this 3-31-51 b'cast w/ diz/bud/tommy/roy-- that one is one SAGA- and it was 10 big ones. yes indeedy at 1st i bought the quartet boots 1st but i was wrong i should of given equal consideration to bird+orch-- indeed it is VERY VERY amazing. i dont know what i was thinking at the time. i guess its my natural bias against the woody herman orch. which i have had forever. but that aside it is very good- not to mention a young bill perkins in the tenor section! now i am going to listen to it, and i think im gonna get drunk, then go to safeway at 1 am and talk with this cashier i really like there. she is probably in her 40s but she is very very pretty Quote
Free For All Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 i guess its my natural bias against the woody herman orch. which i have had forever. WTF is that about chewy? Inquiring minds want to know. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) So this the stuff that had been released on the Alamac LP QSR 2442 ... (Bruyninckx gives a different recording date but that's probably been superseded by more recent research?) Fine stuff and compared to other live Bird recordings the fidelity isn't that bad. I really like the interplay between Bird and Herman's Herd, and hearing Bird play other tunes from the Herd book such as Lemon Drop and The Goof and I is quite interesting. And hey, how can one NOT like the Herds? Edited December 7, 2006 by Big Beat Steve Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Posted December 7, 2006 I LIKE THE HEARD NOW AFTER HEARING **THIS***THING!! Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Posted December 7, 2006 all i have 2 say: that CRAZED OLAF records? w/ the xeroxed facimile cover and the pic of the guy on the label w/ a bag over his head...these lps were obvously designed by the craziest ass of all crazy ass heroin addicts-- Quote
Chas Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 ......now i am going to listen to it, and i think im gonna get drunk, then go to safeway at 1 am and talk with this cashier i really like there. she is probably in her 40s but she is very very pretty Quote
Aggie87 Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 ......now i am going to listen to it, and i think im gonna get drunk, then go to safeway at 1 am and talk with this cashier i really like there. she is probably in her 40s but she is very very pretty Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Posted December 7, 2006 u guys r all fucking ass holes. im not allowed to make fun of the asians but you all have free reign to shit all over me like its your favorite hobby or favorite piece of candy. i hate all of u Quote
JSngry Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Easy there, big guy. It was funny. Gotta be able to laugh at yourself once in a while. Quote
JSngry Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 He can tell you, but then he'll have to kill you. Quote
RDK Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 He can tell you, but then he'll have to kill you. Might be worth it. Depending on the obit he comes up with for me. Quote
brownie Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Hey chewy, relax and enjoy! Chas' post went right up into my 1O-best Organissimo Forums posts list Quote
Guy Berger Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 (edited) Hey chewy, relax and enjoy! Chas' post went right up into my 1O-best Organissimo Forums posts list Brownie, I want you to start a top-10 Organissimo Forums posts thread... Guy Edited December 8, 2006 by Guy Quote
AllenLowe Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 "im not allowed to make fun of the asians" good point there, Chewy. Add the Jews and the cripples to that, and you're all set - Quote
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