mikelz777 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 I'sn't the Rowles the same that's in the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios Select? I think you're right Quote
king ubu Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 I'sn't the Rowles the same that's in the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios Select? I think you're right And I think that's where they (Mosaic) did a less good job than the Nocturne box (didn't yet try to find it). Quote
sidewinder Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 I'sn't the Rowles the same that's in the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios Select? I think you're right Good - sounds like I've got everything then. CDs 1 and 2 of this one this afternoon.. Quote
king ubu Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Well no, those single discs on Fantasy contained a variety of sessions not in Vol. 1 (I guess they'd have been in Vol. 2) - but I've never really tried to get those (I remember I once figured out which ones I'd have to get, but I forgot). Anyway, guess you got the Rowles, but not generally "all Nocturne", sorry if I got you wrong and you know that Quote
mikelz777 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Box set Single discs: -Virgil Gonsalves Sextet / Steve White Quartet-Quintet -Herbie Harper -Bud Shank Quintet / Lou Levy Trio -Harry Babasin Quintet / Bob Enevoldsen Quintet -Steve White Quartet With too much time on my hands and the aid of AllMusic.com, I've learned that the single discs above cover all of the material found in the box set with the exception of the Jimmy Rowles which can be found on his title, "Rare, But Well Done". (or the Mosaic) None of the Steve White material appears in the box set. Quote
king ubu Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Okay ... so it was just the two discs by/with White - that rings a bell. I guess I should have another try. So there must be more material that is on either Vol. 1 or the single discs, as the White material alone would not have made up another 3 disc set ... there's no listing here and a web search doesn't help much either. But I stumbled over this: http://jazztimes.com/articles/9065-the-complete-noctourne-recordings-jazz-in-hollywood-series-volume-1-herbie-harper-with-bud-shank-harry-babasin-bob-enevoldsen-virgil-gonsalves-lou-levy-and-jimmy-rowles and this helpful thread here: EDIT: there's more ... by looking for "NLP 1" to "NLP 11" here, you'll find the details: http://www.jazzdisco.org/fantasy-records/discography-1953-1954/ Quote
sidewinder Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 The Conley Graves and Connelly/Paich sessions are certainly new to me. Won't lose any sleep from them not being issued ! Quote
JohnS Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 Not much time for listening during the last couple of days but I managed to fit in most of disc 3 and 4 of this box Quote
king ubu Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 The Conley Graves and Connelly/Paich sessions are certainly new to me. Won't lose any sleep from them not being issued ! Same here! I guess those plus the White ones would have just about been enough to fill a second volume as Fresh Sound had it planned once. Quote
Bluesnik Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 An interesting box about a minor and partly unknown West Coast label. Do the individual discs issued under Nocturne Records "Jazz In Hollywood" Series cover everything in the box set? The individual titles were: Virgil Gonsalves Sextet / Steve White Quartet-Quintet Herbie Harper Bud Shank Quintet / Lou Levy Trio Harry Babasin Quintet / Bob Enevoldsen Quintet Steve White Quartet *Edit: It appears there is a CD by Jimmy Rowles that is missing I don't have the answer to this since I don't know what the totality recorded for Nocturne was, but the contents on the set are: Herbie Harper Quintet Bud Shank Quintet, which would be his first session ever Harry Babasin Quintet Bob Enevoldsen Quintet Herbie Harper Quintet/Quartet Virgil Gonsalves Sextet Lou Levy Trio Jimmy Rowles Trio I don't know why I was under the false impression that this was to be a three volume set. But i've read again through the liners and there's no mention of even a second one. But the mention of Vol.1 on this one points to the intention of releasing at least Vol.2, even if it was a 2 cd set. From your notes the only material missing from the only existing volume is the Steve White material. Quote
mikelz777 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 In my weakness and in my inexplicable drive for completeness, (an affliction suffered by many jazz fans) I bought the two discs missing in my collection from the known Nocturne releases. I picked up all the other ones years ago when a lot of OJC titles were on clearance or going cheap around the internet. -Jazz In Hollywood--Virgil Gonsalves Sextet / Steve White Quartet-Quintet -Jimmy Rowles Trio--Rare, But Well Done (If this material was made available as a single disc under the Jazz In Hollywood series, I've never seen it) Now I'll have the complete contents of the box set plus the Steve White material. I'm a big West Coast jazz fan and even though this stuff isn't earth shattering or anything, I've always dug these discs. Quote
Bluesnik Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 I'm a big West Coast jazz fan and even though this stuff isn't earth shattering or anything, I've always dug these discs. So am I and I share your view of this material. Quote
king ubu Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 the "Star Bright" and "Soundin' Off" sessions Quote
Clunky Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 Picked up a great condition SH copy of this last year. Lucky find ! Good for you. To me it also wasn't easy sourcing a new copy when I got it. Just to give an alternative view....... I like west coast jazz but find this set somewhat anaemic, it's all pretty uninvolved stuff. The set is well put together but certainly not worth shelling out too much. Quote
mikelz777 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Picked up a great condition SH copy of this last year. Lucky find ! Good for you. To me it also wasn't easy sourcing a new copy when I got it. Just to give an alternative view....... I like west coast jazz but find this set somewhat anaemic, it's all pretty uninvolved stuff. The set is well put together but certainly not worth shelling out too much. I don't think the material is as lackluster as you make it sound. Like I said before, there's nothing earth shattering or ground breaking here but the music is an enjoyable listen even with repeat listening. (At least for me, I dig it.) I would agree that it's not worth the price it's currently going for with just a cursory search of the internet. ($100-$250) I bought a lot of the discs during what seemed to be a big OJC purge on the internet. I'm all in for around $50 (including the Steve White dates) and I think it's definitely worth that. Getting the OOP Jimmy Rowles CD was the most expensive of the lot. Edit: I'm actually all-in for closer to $60 but I still think it's worth it for 6 discs. Edited March 24, 2014 by mikelz777 Quote
king ubu Posted March 24, 2014 Report Posted March 24, 2014 yeah ... and the Bud Shank date is gorgeous! Quote
Justin V Posted March 27, 2014 Report Posted March 27, 2014 The Complete Verve Stuff Smith Sessions, Disc 2 Quote
king ubu Posted March 31, 2014 Report Posted March 31, 2014 discs 7-11 (starting the the Dex/Jug sessions) Quote
king ubu Posted April 2, 2014 Report Posted April 2, 2014 Played the Dexter set to the end a few days ago - lovely one! Now: da shit! Quote
Bluesnik Posted April 2, 2014 Report Posted April 2, 2014 da shit! Yes, I dig that one too a lot. Quote
ghost of miles Posted April 4, 2014 Report Posted April 4, 2014 The Herbie Blue Note is one of my all-time faves as well... I pull it out about once a year and listen to it all the way through. Right now: Quote
jlhoots Posted April 5, 2014 Report Posted April 5, 2014 My purchase of Steve Lacy: Scratching The Seventies arrived. So far very cool!! Quote
king ubu Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 earlier discs 1-3 of the Herbie, now discs 3-4 of the Miles Quote
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