Van Basten II Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) Took a while finally made an order spent for 400 $ of fine music, went for the Ellington, Jazz Crusaders, Oliver Nelson. Among the Selects bought the Onzy Matthews, Pullen and solo Hill. Have to go to rob a few gas stations, i'll be back soon, take care. Edited October 12, 2007 by Van Basten II Quote
J.A.W. Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Posted October 12, 2007 Is it me or the Mosaic site is slow today ? I just ordered a set and everything went smoothly Quote
Face of the Bass Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 Mosaic needs to regenerate its catalog. All the offerings now seem much too bourgeois for my tastes. Whither the avant-garde? Protest? Revolution? All the remaining options seem like they were churned out by the same mill. Sorry to throw cold water on your suggestion, but if Mosaic's current offerings are selling slowly, I can't imagine that the ones you suggest will exactly fly off the shelves. I can understand Mosaic's caution. I agree. I don't think the avant-garde etc. will sell any better than the "bourgeois" stuff, on the contrary. Maybe, maybe not. You're probably right. All I know is that the catalog is looking awfully stale these days, from my perspective, and I've bought more than 20 of their sets, counting Selects and boxes. They keep offering these sales and I keep looking at what's available and thinking, "Nah, I'll pass." I'd like it if they came out with something that would surprise me a little bit, maybe target a different audience, maybe bring in some new customers, even. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 Mosaic needs to regenerate its catalog. All the offerings now seem much too bourgeois for my tastes. Whither the avant-garde? Protest? Revolution? All the remaining options seem like they were churned out by the same mill. Sorry to throw cold water on your suggestion, but if Mosaic's current offerings are selling slowly, I can't imagine that the ones you suggest will exactly fly off the shelves. I can understand Mosaic's caution. I agree. I don't think the avant-garde etc. will sell any better than the "bourgeois" stuff, on the contrary. Maybe, maybe not. You're probably right. All I know is that the catalog is looking awfully stale these days, from my perspective, and I've bought more than 20 of their sets, counting Selects and boxes. They keep offering these sales and I keep looking at what's available and thinking, "Nah, I'll pass." I'd like it if they came out with something that would surprise me a little bit, maybe target a different audience, maybe bring in some new customers, even. I think that's what Mosaic Contemporary is all about. Not necessarily YOUR type of music - but an attempt to bring in new customers. I've thought Mosaic Contemporary was a mistake for a while (well, since they announced it, actually). People who might possibly like that kind of music surely aren't going to be attracted to Mosaic by the availability of a few things when there is so much that's as good (from that point of view) available anyway, at lower prices. It's not generally my kind of music, but I think Face's idea isn't bad. MG Quote
J.A.W. Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) Mosaic needs to regenerate its catalog. All the offerings now seem much too bourgeois for my tastes. Whither the avant-garde? Protest? Revolution? All the remaining options seem like they were churned out by the same mill. Sorry to throw cold water on your suggestion, but if Mosaic's current offerings are selling slowly, I can't imagine that the ones you suggest will exactly fly off the shelves. I can understand Mosaic's caution. I agree. I don't think the avant-garde etc. will sell any better than the "bourgeois" stuff, on the contrary. Maybe, maybe not. You're probably right. All I know is that the catalog is looking awfully stale these days, from my perspective, and I've bought more than 20 of their sets, counting Selects and boxes. They keep offering these sales and I keep looking at what's available and thinking, "Nah, I'll pass." I'd like it if they came out with something that would surprise me a little bit, maybe target a different audience, maybe bring in some new customers, even. I think that's what Mosaic Contemporary is all about. Not necessarily YOUR type of music - but an attempt to bring in new customers. I've thought Mosaic Contemporary was a mistake for a while (well, since they announced it, actually). People who might possibly like that kind of music surely aren't going to be attracted to Mosaic by the availability of a few things when there is so much that's as good (from that point of view) available anyway, at lower prices. It's not generally my kind of music, but I think Face's idea isn't bad. MG I doubt they'd recoup the investment needed for the licensing, research, mastering, etc. of an avant-garde set or something similar. Edited October 12, 2007 by J.A.W. Quote
Face of the Bass Posted October 13, 2007 Report Posted October 13, 2007 Mosaic needs to regenerate its catalog. All the offerings now seem much too bourgeois for my tastes. Whither the avant-garde? Protest? Revolution? All the remaining options seem like they were churned out by the same mill. Sorry to throw cold water on your suggestion, but if Mosaic's current offerings are selling slowly, I can't imagine that the ones you suggest will exactly fly off the shelves. I can understand Mosaic's caution. I agree. I don't think the avant-garde etc. will sell any better than the "bourgeois" stuff, on the contrary. Maybe, maybe not. You're probably right. All I know is that the catalog is looking awfully stale these days, from my perspective, and I've bought more than 20 of their sets, counting Selects and boxes. They keep offering these sales and I keep looking at what's available and thinking, "Nah, I'll pass." I'd like it if they came out with something that would surprise me a little bit, maybe target a different audience, maybe bring in some new customers, even. I think that's what Mosaic Contemporary is all about. Not necessarily YOUR type of music - but an attempt to bring in new customers. I've thought Mosaic Contemporary was a mistake for a while (well, since they announced it, actually). People who might possibly like that kind of music surely aren't going to be attracted to Mosaic by the availability of a few things when there is so much that's as good (from that point of view) available anyway, at lower prices. It's not generally my kind of music, but I think Face's idea isn't bad. MG I doubt they'd recoup the investment needed for the licensing, research, mastering, etc. of an avant-garde set or something similar. Maybe...I'm not an expert at all on the business. But today I've been listening to the wonderful Jimmy Lyons box set on Ayler Records and wishing that Mosaic had done something similar along the way. I mean, there's a ton of stuff out there from the 1970s or 1980s that could be packaged together as a box, and that's besides the oft-rumored Braxton Arista set. Quote
street singer Posted October 13, 2007 Report Posted October 13, 2007 Broke down and ordered the Miles/Coltrane vinyl set. Was going to get it eventually before it disappears forever...figured now's as good a time as any. Those Miles sets are things of beauty... Quote
sidewinder Posted October 13, 2007 Report Posted October 13, 2007 Broke down and ordered the Miles/Coltrane vinyl set. Was going to get it eventually before it disappears forever...figured now's as good a time as any. Those Miles sets are things of beauty... Fabulous set . My general rule on the Miles vinyl sets - buy the lot. Quote
Ron S Posted October 13, 2007 Report Posted October 13, 2007 You can't--it's impossible. You need to send me 1 or 2 of those boxes so I can help out with the listening. Quote
sidewinder Posted October 13, 2007 Report Posted October 13, 2007 One day to go and I still cant make my mind up. 'The Procrastinator' strikes... Quote
J.A.W. Posted October 14, 2007 Author Report Posted October 14, 2007 I wonder if these Mosaic sales will result in one or two sets ending up on their Running Low or even Last Chance lists... Quote
Bright Moments Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 took the plunge - just ordered the dinah washington. Quote
J.A.W. Posted October 14, 2007 Author Report Posted October 14, 2007 One day to go and I still cant make my mind up. 'The Procrastinator' strikes... Today's your last chance... Quote
mjzee Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 Yeah, I was enticed... I ordered the HRS Sessions, the Cohn-Newman-Green, and the Dizzy Reese. Will have to wait for the next sale for the Chu Berry and the Johnny Smith. Quote
J.A.W. Posted October 14, 2007 Author Report Posted October 14, 2007 When I ordered a few more sets an hour or so ago I got a note from Mosaic that they were pretty busy (they're working today). Quote
ASNL77 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Sonny Stitt, Oliver Nelson and The Columbia small group sessions are on their way. Good to see the Mosaic staff busy. Edited October 14, 2007 by ASNL77 Quote
sidewinder Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) They'll be even busier. Just put in my order for the Hodges, Oliver Nelson and the Columbia Small Groups. Can't believe that after all this time the Hodges hasn't yet sold out ! Edited October 14, 2007 by sidewinder Quote
BruceH Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 Thank God October 14 is next week because... oh. Shit. Quote
Edward Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 They'll be even busier. Just put in my order for the Hodges, Oliver Nelson and the Columbia Small Groups. Can't believe that after all this time the Hodges hasn't yet sold out ! Neither can I. The Hodges set was released in the fall of 2000; the Mobley set was released during the summer of 1998. I do not think that either set will be around for that much longer, but we shall see. I placed an order for the Ellington, Johnny Smith, and Columbia Small Groups sets as well as the Cohn/Newman/Green and Onzy Matthews Selects. (It is only prudent to take full advantage of the shipping fee schedule and order in bulk, right? ) At any rate, I should be set for some time now unless I change my mind about the Prima/Manone set. Insofar as they are negative indications as to the future financial viability of Mosaic (I really don't think that regular sales are part of its business model), I hope that Mosaic does NOT have any sales in the foreseeable future. In the eleven years that I have been purchasing sets from Mosaic, I recall only seven or so sales before the trio of sales that we have seen over the past 2.5 months. Quote
Quincy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 I'm trying to be strong.) Resistance is futile... With just a few hours to go I put the Christy/Lee in the cart. Then I thought I clicked Onzy Matthews, but instead I saw Liebman in the cart (they're alphabetical neighbors on the Select page.) Removed that, but rather than go back to the Onzy I saw the price of the Jazztet set... 4 big boxes in 2 months! I will return someday to get the Onzy. Quote
LJazz Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 I don't know what happened. One minute I was looking at the Mosaic website, and the next thing I knew I had the Hodges, Wilson and Turrentine sets in my shopping cart! Well I couldn't just let them sit there -- so now they are on their way to me. I really hadn't planned on purchasing any this year ... Hope they're all as great as I expect. Quote
Quincy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) 4 big boxes in 2 months! I will return someday to get the Onzy. No worries. The deal on the big boxes is better than the Selects, anyway. The $5 difference for those won't break the bank, I'm sure. Yup, "no worries" other than wanting to hear it. Actually as the upcoming Lionel Hampton is a smaller box (just 5 discs) I intend to add it as a cherry on top when the time comes. It is funny how the 4 & 5 disc Mosaics seem downright cozy after one has ordered a 7 disc or larger set. Edited October 15, 2007 by Quincy Quote
Quincy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 I don't know what happened. One minute I was looking at the Mosaic website, and the next thing I knew I had the Hodges, Wilson and Turrentine sets in my shopping cart! Well I couldn't just let them sit there -- so now they are on their way to me. I really hadn't planned on purchasing any this year ... Hope they're all as great as I expect. That's the way to handle difficult decisions! With winter coming it's good to stock the cupboard with great music. Seriously, you'll be enjoying these sets for the rest of your life. (Unless you abandon jazz for punk or something, but if you do the resale value of the Mosaics will fund this new endeavor. ) Quote
sidewinder Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 With winter coming it's good to stock the cupboard with great music. I'm still working my way through the Winter stock of the year but last. Quote
Kalo Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 I went for the Jazztet and the Gerald Wilson. Those ought to hold me for a while. Quote
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