Christiern Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Yesterday, I sat through the 3-hour Crouch interview on C-Span, and it was as amazing as it often was boring. Still, I wanted to hear what Stanley had to say and, of course, the interview being transmitted live, there was always the possibility of seeing him punch out the interviewer. They took calls, but the callers rarely got an answer--instead, Stanley rambled down a different path, most of the time. He obviously does not take well to criticism, although he should have grown accustomed to it by now. He arrogantly refers to his critics as "minor men." When they read to him an excerpt from a lengthy, negative review of his novel, Don't the Moon Look Lonesome, he immediately tagged the reviewer (an accomplished author) as a "minor" person, and added that he was a man of small physical stature, too. It was gratuitous and dumb. Inevitably, someone asked about Wynton. Crouch pointed out that there are people who hate him, but that they are "minor men." He said that jazz was considered all but dead when Wynton came on the scene, but that Wynton helped prove that to be untrue. He also called Wynton "the greatest trumpet player in the world," and when asked if that was greatest of all time, he wouldn't come out and say it, but mentioned that someone who had shared a stage with Gillespie and other greats thought Wynton was the best ever. Stanley also referred to Wynton as "an extraordinary composer," and that his success prompted many musicians to believe that they could be as successful, but they could not. His enthusiasm for Albert Murray seems to have cooled off. Could it be that Murray is becoming a minor man? Like I said, amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 How can one be a minor AND be a man, at least legally? I'm confused. Maybe he meant "miner" instead - they come in all ages! Or maybe he was really saying "My Norman". Maybe it's the latest in hepcatjivetalk and the rest of us just aren't gone enough to dig his crazy lingo. That darn Stanley - always saying stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I guess we can only hope that his novel will not be made into a film. Then some sweet innocents might be subject to the Casting Crouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 and what kind of hip lingo would "miner" be? as in: miner of the bowels of modern jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Weil Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 His enthusiasm for Albert Murray seems to have cooled off. Could it be that Murray is becoming a minor man? It has probably begun to sink that, in terms of cultural/Jazz history, our Stanley is going to be seen as "minor". If he's very lucky. Simon Weil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 and what kind of hip lingo would "miner" be? It's like, dig - it's like between "cold" and "cool". It's..it's... COAL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I got an email announcing that his Crouchness will soon be talking about Minton's Playhouse at the Museum of the City of NY. The promotional email said he "has written a biography of Charlie Parker that is due out next year." (2004!? - I will believe it when I see it - "due out," remember.) http://www.jazzmuseuminharlem.org/news.html Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted October 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Re the Parker bio, they showed some footage of Stanley in his office. There were several file cabinets with drawers marked "Parker A-H," "Parker I-S, etc. He explained that this was the book he has been expected to write for 11 years (I think he said 11), and that it would be ready in 2 years, because so many of the people he interviewd have died. Hmmm Shades of Quincy T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Just curious: how come Chris's posts are always indented? Nothing wrong with it, just curious is all. As usual, I don't have anything relevant to contribute to the thread, although I think Chris should get some special award for voluntary self-infliction. Why didn't ya call him up and harass him on the air? The worst that could happen is you might've been referred to as a "minor man," thereby putting you in that upper echelon of other greats who've seen thru the smoke and mirrors that is Crouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 re: the indent, quote one for fun and note the code (the stuff between the [brackets]) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 re: the indent, quote one for fun and note the code (the stuff between the [brackets]) Ahhhhhhhh. That'll teach me to be so.... listless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted October 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I like margins, Al... ...what can I say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I like margins, Al... ...what can I say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I guess we can only hope that his novel will not be made into a film. ... with Wynton's soundtrack on Blue Note? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Seriously, what's up with Crouch? I mean, you have to assume he has enough brains to realize how silly that "minor man" stuff sounds. I don't get it. Is he trying to impress stupid people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris olivarez Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Chris listening to someone that pompous for three minutes let alone three hours only proves one thing and that would be that your much better equipped to withstand torture than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Seriously, what's up with Crouch? I mean, you have to assume he has enough brains to realize how silly that "minor man" stuff sounds. I don't get it. Is he trying to impress stupid people? If you mean the people that take him seriously then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 I guess we can only hope that his novel will not be made into a film. Then some sweet innocents might be subject to the Casting Crouch. Tough crowd. I thought this would at least get a but maybe the thought of a poor actress being propositioned by this man offset the amusement of the pun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 If Crouch calls you a "minor man" does that mean you're a minority? Or is it like reaching your majority in reverse? (Just some minor thoughts....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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