bertrand Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) If this has been discussed previously, I missed it. Hank recorded with Cedar Walton in 1972 (The Breakthrough - 02/22/72, just 3 days after Lee Morgan died), and his last known recording was one track with Tete Montoliu (03/22/80). I think it is generally assumed that there was nothing in between, but look what I found while trolling around loc.gov: http://lcweb5.loc.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/1024224/sonic.txt This is something I could listen to soon and identify the pieces (I hope). I noticed a LOT of their listings have unidentified tracks. Bertrand. Edited September 20, 2008 by bertrand Quote
Daniel A Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 Interesting! Keep us informed, by all means! It's stored on "digital sound cassettes". Let's hope it's not on DCC; it would be difficult to find a playback unit... Quote
JSngry Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 That link doesn't load for me, Bertrand. What are we seeing? Quote
Dan Gould Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 That link doesn't load for me, Bertrand. What are we seeing? It loaded for me but just displays a search page, not a completed search. The search results must be valid for a specific time only. Quote
Daniel A Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) It doesn't load for me either, but it was still in my IE cache: Shelf no. RGA 0225-0227 (RWD 7047-7049 A1) Title Newport Jazz Festival New York, July 6, 1973, Radio City Music Hall concert Date Event : 07/06/1973 Publication Status Unpublished Type Music Medium Recording Performer(s) Jam session, group 1 (David Baker, George Mraz, Walter Bishop, Jr., Eddie Daniels, Bill Watrous, Red Rodney, Mel Lewis, Eric Kloss, Art Farmer). Gary Burton, vibes; Bill Evans, piano; Eddie Gomez, bass; Marty Morell, drums. Jeremy Steig, flute; Eddie Gomez, bass; Marty Morell, drums. Jam session, group 2 (Dizzy Gillespie, Jon Faddis, Art Blakey, Curtis Fuller, Larry Ridley, Hank Mobley, Joe Farrell, Stan Getz, Cecil Payne, Barry Harris, John Blair). Anita O'Day, vocals; jazz group (Jimmie Rowles, Larry Ridley, Oliver Jackson, Cecil Payne). All-Star Band (Louis Jordan, Oliver Jackson, Milt Hinton, Sonny Stitt, Blue Mitchell, Tiny Grimes, Larry Coryell, Earl "Fatha" Hines, Al Grey, Tiny Grimes, John Mayall). Recording Note Newport Jazz Festival New York, July 6, 1973, Radio City Music Hall concert Note Jam session is represented by two different groups of instrumentalists at this concert. Work(s) Walkin'. Performed by Jam session, group 1. I'll remember April. Performed by Jam session, group 1. Unidentified work. Performed by Ralph Towner, guitarist. Bluebird. Performed by Ralph Towner, guitarist. Polka dots and moonbeans. Performed by Gary Burton, vibraphonist; Bill Evans, pianist; Eddie Gomez, bassist; Marty Morell, drummer. Beautiful love. Performed by Gary Burton, vibraphonist; Bill Evans, pianist; Eddie Gomez, bassist; Marty Morell, drummer. Unidentified work. Performed by Jeremy Steig, flutist; Eddie Gomez, bassist; Marty Morell, drummer. Unidentified works. Performed by Jam session, group 2. Incomplete, original recording is broken up onto two 7-inch reels. Night in Tunisia. Performed by Jam session, group 2. Honeysuckle rose. Performed by Anita O'Day, vocalist; jazz quartet. I can't get started. Performed by Anita O'Day, vocalist; jazz quartet. Sweet Georgia Brown. Performed by Anita O'Day, vocalist; jazz quartet. East of the sun. Performed by All-Star Band. Unidentified blues. Performed by Louis Jordan, John Mayall, vocalists; All-Star Band. Unidentified blues. Performed by All-Star Band. Genre(s) Jazz Blues (Music) Name(s) Burton, Gary. (performer) Evan, Bill, 1929-. (performer) Gomez, Eddie. (performer) Morell, Marty. (performer) Steig, Jeremy. (performer) O'Day, Anita. (performer) Jordan, Louis, 1908-1975. (performer) Mayall, John. (performer) Group(s) Newport Jazz Festival New York (1973) Collection Voice of America Music Library Collection (Library of Congress) Physical Item RGA 0225-0227 (RWD 7047-7049 A1). 3 digital sound cassettes, mono., digital (polyester). Recording Laboratory 1995-7. Collection/Donor name: Voice of America Music Library Collection (Library of Congress) Edited September 20, 2008 by Daniel A Quote
bertrand Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Posted September 20, 2008 Sorry about that - I guess their stuff does time out. Next time, I'll do a cut and paste. But Daniel listed the thing I found. So it's Mobley after 1972, but of course it's a jam session so he may only solo on one cut. If you look at that sonic database, there's tons of stuff out there without song titles. I have my work cut out for me, but there's only so much time. The most urgent is the 7/2/61 Newport date with Wayne and KD. They only list two tracks, but these seems awfully short. I listened to this years ago and it was 20 minutes. Were Newport sets really that short? I wonder if there's another cut that might be tacked on to someone else's set. They also have the 1959 Blakey Newport set. The '59 and '61 sets together would make a ncie little 50-55 minute CD. Bertrand. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 I think Newport sets were really short. If you remember, the Joe Daley Trio LP on RCA was at least half studio music. Bill Dixon's group with Judith Dunn performed a 23-minute version of "Groundspeed" at Newport in '66, IIRC. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 so if the library has the digital copy- what happened to the original? did you just discover this during online research? will you go listen to it and report back to us? will you specifically go listen to it and report back to us if Hank and Joe Farrell trade solos? ditto Getz do u have access to "listen" to these? Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 so its VOA so it was a radio b'cast, right? today to access the lib . on congress- do u need a membership? or do u need to be a resarcher? or can anyone with a social sec. # gain access? Quote
bertrand Posted October 3, 2008 Author Report Posted October 3, 2008 I will report back on the Mobley and other things. I don't know when I can get to it, hopefully before 2009. I think the digital copies are for playback - they keep the originals for preservation. I cannot make any copies, of course, don't even ask. However, don't forget that the Horace Silver Newport was from these tapes (although they found a better source at the last minute). Maybe some label might be willing to clear the rights and get this out there. Tons of more interesting stuff: 1) Teddy Charles tentet w/ Gigi Gryce. 2) Jam session with Charles Mingus and Dewey Redman. 3) Tubby Hayes in D.C. with Walter Bishop, Jr., Roy Brooks and BUTCH WARREN (1962). Bertrand. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 to access LOC do u need credentials? or are any and all americans allowed in , eg. like your local public library? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 This would be in the special collections and probably one would apply for access. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 5, 2008 Report Posted October 5, 2008 1st order of bussiness come november with obama: get me this cd! Quote
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