BERIGAN Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 the %%%%% wackyness is from the website..... Web-site porn attracts women by the millions 10/31/03 Mark O'Keefe Newhouse News Service After putting her daughter to bed, Maggie, 42, routinely sat at her computer for hours, mesmerized by an online world of erotic stories and real- time sexual discussions. Beth, 33, usually clicked on the most visually graphic sites, disproving the theory that only men are enticed by pornography. "A lot of people don't realize this happens with women, too," says Beth, who, along with Maggie, asked that their last names not be revealed. The myth began long ago, perhaps because women were rarely seen walking into seedy adult bookstores. But in recent years, the accessibility, affordability and anonymity of the Internet have made pornography undeniably attractive to millions of women. While some women simply find it exciting, others have battled addictions and other problems. Nearly one in three visitors to adult Web sites is a woman, according to Nielsen%%cat%%NetRa%%endcat%%%%county%%e%%endcounty%%%%town%%tRa%%endtown%%tings, the industry standard for measuring online audiences. Studying the Internet use of 40,000 panelists at home and work, Nielsen%%cat%%NetRa%%endcat%%%%county%%e%%endcounty%%%%town%%tRa%%endtown%%tings estimates that 9.4 million women in the United States accessed such sites in September. Julie Neff, 29, of Mukwonago, Wis., sees nothing but benefits. Internet pornography "is pretty much an adjunct to my regular sex life," she said. She estimates she views it less than an hour a week, and is open about it with her boyfriend. "We e-mail each other saying, 'Ha- ha, look at this,' or, 'Hee-hee, look at that,' or, 'Ooh, that's good.' It's healthy. If you want to know the mechanics or the logistics of certain things, you can get education and inspiration to do stuff. Plus, I just find it prurient. I like it." Others think it can lead to problems. There is some evidence that Internet pornography is luring even women whose values oppose it. Some speculate a forbidden- fruit factor can make it tantalizing for religious women in particular. The editors of Today's Christian Woman, an evangelical magazine, had heard anecdotes of churchgoing women getting hooked on pornography, so they conducted a survey asking readers of their online newsletter if they had intentionally visited porn sites. Thirty-four percent said they had. While the frequency of female pornography "addiction" is difficult to measure, psychologists agree that some women, as well as men, do engage in destructively compulsive behavior fueled by the Internet. Maggie said she began exploring pornography to try to understand what it was that captivated her ex-husband. Soon, she was spending up to 30 hours a week surfing the Web for arousal. She realized she had a serious problem when "I couldn't wait for my daughter to go to sleep so I could get on the computer. The light went on that I preferred porn to spending time with my child." The interactivity of the Internet makes it especially appealing to some women, said Al Cooper, a staff psychologist at Stanford University and the author of "Sex and the Internet: A Guidebook for Clinicians." "We see women all the time who may not feel that attractive, but they get 20 guys going after them at a time in a chat room, e-mailing them instantly. That's affirming to a woman, and it's hard to match when your husband is in the next room drinking a beer, maybe asking you if you're going to exercise next week" because he thinks you're overweight, Cooper said. When a woman prefers cybersex to real sex or becomes secretive about her online pornography use, those are red flags, said Cooper, director of the San Jose Marital Services and Sexuality Centre in California. But he contends that online erotica can be helpful "if you share this with your partner because you need some variety, need a way to spice things up." While pornography may rouse a couple's interest for a while, "real women with real varicose veins and real body fat" lose in the end because they can't compete with the image of air-brushed porn queens, said Donna Rice Hughes, president of Enough is Enough, an organization trying to make the Internet safer for families. "Pornography sells sex without relationships, sex without commitment, sex without consequences, sex without love, sex without children and sex for one's own gratification as opposed to the gratification of the other," said Rice Hughes, whose 1987 relationship with former Sen. Gary Hart, Democrat of Colorado, ended his presidential campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 We live in a whacky society. On the one hand, Americans are still Puritans. We officially disapprove of pornography. On the other hand, we live in a Capitalist society in which everything is for sale, and porn makes money by the truckload. We don't approve of it, but we spend billions of dollars on it. Where else besides the U.S. does this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 While pornography may rouse a couple's interest for a while, "real women with real varicose veins and real body fat" lose in the end because they can't compete with the image of air-brushed porn queens, said Donna Rice Hughes, president of Enough is Enough, an organization trying to make the Internet safer for families. Donna Rice Hughes is full of shit. Mrs. Moose has one serious advantage over any "airbrushed porn queen": she's right here. (Okay, there are others as well, but I'm not going to waste a "how do I love thee" post on you guys; I'll save it for Valentine's Day and get points for it! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacman Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 fake boobs, no hips, and hairless nether regions don't do anything for me. i prefer women who look real, not like Barbie. anyone who would prefer cyber-sex to the real deal has issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Stream Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 fake boobs, no hips, and hairless nether regions don't do anything for me. i prefer women who look real, not like Barbie. anyone who would prefer cyber-sex to the real deal has issues. Then why are you called "jacman?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 There's a lot of lonely women out there, just as there are a lot of lonely guys. An adult chat room seems like a perfect outlet for these folks to live out a fantasy or two without having to actually make contact. Quiet as it's kept, women get horny too. And nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 We live in a whacky society. On the one hand, Americans are still Puritans. We officially disapprove of pornography. On the other hand, we live in a Capitalist society in which everything is for sale, and porn makes money by the truckload. We don't approve of it, but we spend billions of dollars on it. Where else besides the U.S. does this happen? Perhaps the non-Americans can chime in here, but a lot of stuff I've read suggests that pornography outside the US is often even more extreme. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 It would be a gift to MANkind if someone posted a list of these porn searching women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 That's THE Donna Rice, isn't it? Anybody here ever voted for Gary Hart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 We live in a whacky society. On the one hand, Americans are still Puritans. We officially disapprove of pornography. On the other hand, we live in a Capitalist society in which everything is for sale, and porn makes money by the truckload. We don't approve of it, but we spend billions of dollars on it. Where else besides the U.S. does this happen? Perhaps the non-Americans can chime in here, but a lot of stuff I've read suggests that pornography outside the US is often even more extreme. Guy I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying that considering the amount of money we spend on porn (and I'm no different. I've certainly seen my fair share of dirty pictures), Americans seem to spend an awful lot of time talking about how WRONG porn is. How BAD and SINFUL. Now look at Denmark or the Netherlands. They have serious porn over there. In fact, they have live sex shows, gay bath houses, and legalized prostitution in addition to porn, and their society doesn't go around trying to shame people out of doing it. Americans buy a lot of porn, jack off to a lot of porn, and then turn around and say that porn is bad. Porn may be degrading to women, but what in American pop culture isn't? Have you looked at MTV lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacman Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Then why are you called "jacman?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Re: Alexander's post, a friend of mine made a good point after he had seen an authentic belly dancer perform: in this country we don't have much in the way of mild eroticism. On the puritannical end, sex is thought to be a sin or at best shamful and dirty, while at the other end of the spectrum it's aggressively exploitive; all the way to total hardcore. So we are by turns repressed and over-stimulated. It's this kind of conditioning that leads to obsessive thoughts and behaviors, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 It's "porn" if you feel guilt over viewing it. Otherwise, it's "erotica". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Re: Alexander's post, a friend of mine made a good point after he had seen an authentic belly dancer perform: in this country we don't have much in the way of mild eroticism. On the puritannical end, sex is thought to be a sin or at best shamful and dirty, while at the other end of the spectrum it's aggressively exploitive; all the way to total hardcore. So we are by turns repressed and over-stimulated. It's this kind of conditioning that leads to obsessive thoughts and behaviors, I believe. I agree. We're very repressed here. Taught that sex is dirty thing that must be hidden, and something we should be ashamed of. On the other hand, if you're friend doesn't see anything in the way of mild eroticism, perhaps they need to watch more television. Just concentrate on the ads. Eroticism in this country is a sales tool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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