Д.Д. Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 I thought I'd revisit One Too Many Salty... and offer a few comments but MAN!, what a firestorm! Definitely NOT what I'm in the mood to listen to. I'm also not quite in the mood to listen to "One Too Many..." or similar sort of stuff at the moment. An early symptom of abbeyfication? I am not sure how you guessed I've been listening to Jon's stuff lately ... Drumm/Dörner duo CD (erstwhile 015) is highly recommended. Just checked the Erstwhile website, and it's OOP! Temporarily, I guess? Quote
jon abbey Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 no plans to reprint it, I don't think you guys understand just how dreadful the market is for CD sales these days, and there's no real way to reprint less than 1000 copies. Keith Whitman still has at least one for sale here: http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com Quote
Guest Chaney Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 Actually, I think we guys understand quite well. Quote
Д.Д. Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 Beacuase we guys actually buy it. And us guys like this are not too many. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 If it weren't for the fact that the ladies love guys who love this shit... Quote
Д.Д. Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 The music that separates the guys who understand from the guys who don't. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted June 24, 2006 Report Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) Cool pictures... with links to dozens of pages more at the bottom of the linked page. ~~~~~~~~~~ JANDEK NEWS: The DVD edition of Glasgow Sunday is now out. See this mailing list post. And so does Jandek enter the digital age... DVD showed up today, the cover being identical to the CD of 0779. The difference is on the back and I've provided a scan of this (sorry for the file size). Interestingly, the songs aren't listed here, but ARE listed on the back of the inside card. And the film? It's a revelation. Really. I can honestly say that I've been more excited about the AUDIO releases of upcoming Corwood projects than the DVDs. Plus, it's taken so long - I started to assume that he may have scrapped the idea. Instead Corwood has sent out its most daring project to date. Daring because the fourth wall comes down and we get up close and personal with the Corwood Representative (and band). The DVD includes three options for viewing: Camera 1, Camera 2 and a mix of both. Depending on which you pick you can then choose to watch either one song at a time or "play all." Camera 1 is the REALLY daring thing, as 90% of the time it's focused in zoom exclusively on the man from Corwood. You see every facial expression (including the "speculative look" he gets when he seems to be deciding which song to do next, flipping pages in a file folder). You also see his guitar styles and get a real look at him "rocking out" (as he does throughout, but especially on "Real Wild.") It's interesting to see his interpretation of the lyrics (he makes some very sarcastic faces at a few of the lyrics). He also smiles at the applause. That point says a lot - when the film starts we get a short period where the band is setting up (and only a green light elucidates the stage) and he's putting the guitar on. When the full lights rise, it's obvious that the man is nervous. REAL nervous. He starts each song and nods little things to the bandmembers. After each applause, he relaxes a bit more until, at the end, he looks thoroughly relaxed. This is more the artist that I saw in Austin. This show is the experience of watching him transform from a man who is obviously not sure if this thing is gonna work to someone who is enjoying himself. Camera 2 is largely from the back of the place (and at times zooms in on Alex and Richard, occasionally catching audience members). The mix, of course, is the best way to see the show. It's curious to see how at ease Alex in particular is. Richard jumps around rocks out, but Alex is grinning from ear to ear, pulling some cool percussive tricks. Both are obviously on top of the world. The communication is already on between the three of them. The DVD goes for $16 new (or $8 each in a pack of twenty). It is WELL WORTH THE MONEY. I hope he continues to release them - an interesting perspective on the artist BUT also a whole new thing in Corwood history. Up to this point photographic images have been cryptic, to say the least. A mix of boyhood photographs and travel journals, freezing expressions from moments we can never be completely certain about. This is the show as played by three men in front of an audience who had no idea what was going on. Curious to get responses from others, as I've had a stronger reaction to this than I expected. VERY excited about 'Newcastle Sunday' - and I wonder if, now that he knows how he wants them to look, shows will come out more contemporary to their audio versions. Whatever, this is great stuff. A classic moment captured. Danen Edited June 24, 2006 by Chaney Quote
jon abbey Posted June 25, 2006 Report Posted June 25, 2006 Beacuase we guys actually buy it. And us guys like this are not too many. right, all I was saying is I'm not sure you realize just how few of "you" there are these days. maybe you do, but it doesn't make much sense for me to repress a disc that took 5 years to sell out of its initial 800 copies (not counting promos and musician copies). not saying I won't repress anything again, but it makes increasingly less sense in this marketplace. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted June 25, 2006 Report Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) Found this link over at Avant Music News: December 2005 EXPLORE RECORDS Announce April 2006 launch of label at Midem 2006 Explore Records aims to explore the large number of existing recordings of rare and unusual repertory which have never been available internationally on CD - or which have only been available for a limited period of time on CD in the past. The label is launched with a selection of 15 titles which clearly reflects the name and spirit of the label - "Explore" - rarities and sought-after recordings which span over 400 years of Western music - from vocal works by the English composer William Lawes (1602-1645) through large-scale orchestral works by acknowledged modern masters such as Iannis Xenakis (1922-2001). The label focuses on rare and unusual repertory - it is not artist driven although many acclaimed names in their respective fields of musical interest and expertise do appear - ensembles such as The Consort of Musicke, keyboard performers such as Christopher Hogwood and Malcom Binns, and important exponents of twentieth-century repertory such as conductor Elgar Howarth and pianist Roger Woodward. The initial phase of releases is drawn from the Decca catalogue and its various labels; future releases will continue to explore this and other catalogues, crossing genre to embrace jazz and world music rarities. This diverse and fascinating repertory is brought together on EXPLORE RECORDS with highly distinctive packaging and liner notes in English, French and German. In the majority of releases the liner notes are the original LP notes - frequently written by acknowledged specialists in the style of music on the disc. Detailed recording information relating to the original release is included and those CDs containing vocal works include sung texts. Further releases are planned for June and September 2006. Contact for all press, label and licensor enquiries. Lys Hayles Explore Records l.hayles@explorerecords.com Tel: 020 8987 7094 ~~~~~~~~~~ The 11 CD/1 DVD set of percussionist Vladimir Tarasov's ATTO pieces appears to be nearing release: http://www.leorecords.com/?m=select&id=CD_LR_817/828 11 CD-box (audio) plus one DVD: GBP 90.00. That's around $165. Can't say I was ever tempted and at that price, I'll likely remain un-enticeable. (Is that a word?) Besides which, I think I've found a copy of the OOP psi: The ___ who had begun his career as a useful ___ of the ___ court later became the ___ of ___ and the ___ of ___. and I've been eyeing the SPOOL label. L O V E 12 Milagritos (except for tracks one and twelve): John Butcher, tenor or soprano saxophone; Gino Robair, percussion, bows and motors, ebow snare, faux dax; and Matthew Sperry, bass and preparations. Sperry is especially phenomenal. ON THE EDIT: If anyone is interested, Cadence has a "few more" copies of The ___ who had begun his career as a useful ___ of the ___ court later became the ___ of ___ and the ___ of ___.. For a 15 minute sample, click Mr. Alien Head above. Edited June 26, 2006 by Chaney Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 26, 2006 Report Posted June 26, 2006 My 2 cents on that Cecil band: fucking heavy! I need to buy back those New World records too; used to fade them, but the Hat Hut box is so badass that I might as well get the rest of it. Knaw mean? Raphe Malik is one of the greats, too... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted June 27, 2006 Report Posted June 27, 2006 My 2 cents on that Cecil band: fucking heavy! Oh yeah. [p.s. especially compared to those 'jazz-lite' units he'd often lead ] Quote
Guest Chaney Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Some interesting (free!) sounds courtesy of CONV. CONV is a non-profit, cdr/net.label focused on experimental sound art mainly; our aim is to promote independent releases by artists from all over the world who are creating and processing sound in unconventional ways. All our releases ( except cdr editions ) are free for download with artwork under Creative Commons Licenses Quote
jon abbey Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 a similar label I find more interesting is homophoni: http://homophoni.com/ I particularly recommend 004 and 013. Quote
David Ayers Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Still holding out against One Too Many... Hey - like what you like! But for me everyone plays for too long here and is over-exposed - i.e becomes boring. In great music every event is well-defined and essential. In this concert the portentous atmosphere is everywhere - as if something mighty is always *about* to happen - but for my money everything is spun out, Shannon Jackson does not fit, the bassist is short of ideas, and the introductory duets and solos are dull - though the trumpet and sax do well in the group section, the only highlight, IMO. Liking this record does not mean joining an inner circle, alas. Quote
B. Clugston Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Still holding out against One Too Many... Hey - like what you like! But for me everyone plays for too long here and is over-exposed - i.e becomes boring. In great music every event is well-defined and essential. In this concert the portentous atmosphere is everywhere - as if something mighty is always *about* to happen - but for my money everything is spun out, Shannon Jackson does not fit, the bassist is short of ideas, and the introductory duets and solos are dull - though the trumpet and sax do well in the group section, the only highlight, IMO. Liking this record does not mean joining an inner circle, alas. I neither love it nor dislike it. I agree the intros are dull and the whole affair goes on too long. But I like the fact Roland Shannon Jackson does not fit; some of his almost funky beats are a shocking contrast to the shitkicking the drum set usually getsat a Taylor concert. (Kind of a similar contrast to Franky Douglas' guitar on Incarnation.) And Lyons can play as long as he likes AFAIK. Among the Hats, I like It is in the Brewing Luminous the best. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 30, 2006 Report Posted June 30, 2006 Why compare this to other Hats? Compare it to the New Worlds and the MPS - these are by the same band. I suggest spending extra time with the New World recordings since they are "studio" and are the finished result of a lot of work compared to "live" recordings. I greatly enjoy all of them but the studio sessions are really special. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted July 2, 2006 Report Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) Two of four new releases on Fargone Records: FAR-044> Mattin, Jean-Luc Guionnet, Bertrand Denzler, & Taku Unami - -/:. CD-R. May 23, 2006. lim-100. $8. FAR-045> Vic Rawlings & Mike Bullock - On That Which Is Best and the Best That Can Be Done Under the Circumstances CD-R. May 23, 2006. lim-100. $8. These two gents are excellent as members of the Bhob Rainey-led, Boston-based ensemble The BSC. A terrific recording is entitled Good, on Grob. Other members of the lineup on Good: Axel Dörner and Greg Kelley (trumpets); Bhob Rainey (soprano saxophone); Andrea Neumann (inside piano); Chris Cooper (prepared guitar); James Coleman (theremin); Howard Stelzer (tapes); Liz Tonne (voice). Also sounding interesting is: FAR-032> Bryan Eubanks & Doug Theriault - Arrest of Attention in the Midst of Distraction CD-R. June 15, 2005. lim-60. $8. ~~~~~~~~~~ News from Dan Plonsey: There are two recent limited edition releases of Plonsey's music on Foxglove, an imprint of the digitalis label based in Tulsa, Oklahoma: Music of El Cerrito, Volume 8: "Jazz" at Yoshi's (digitalis, foxglove 086; released September 30, 2005). The music on this CD is culled from a performance by a 20-person version of Daniel Popsicle at Yoshi's, September 30, 2002. The concert was presented under the auspices of Jazz in Flight. Imperfect Masters:Strike Out (digitalis, foxglove 104; released February, 2006) This CD is the result of several years of collaboration with my friend and neighbor, Robert Horton, who is a mainstay of the El Cerrito scene, Ludwig/Jordan axis. ~~~~~~~~~~ Free downloads of OOP Crank Satori 3" titles. Edited July 2, 2006 by Chaney Quote
ep1str0phy Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 I greatly enjoy all of them but the studio sessions are really special. No doubt--those are some tight, beautiful performances--some of the best work by all involved, IMO (especially Jackson, who comes off strong as hell). Quote
Kalo Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 I greatly enjoy all of them but the studio sessions are really special. No doubt--those are some tight, beautiful performances--some of the best work by all involved, IMO (especially Jackson, who comes off strong as hell). Beautiful music -- maybe my favorite Taylor records ever. Quote
P.L.M Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 (edited) Why compare this to other Hats? Compare it to the New Worlds and the MPS - these are by the same band. I suggest spending extra time with the New World recordings since they are "studio" and are the finished result of a lot of work compared to "live" recordings. I greatly enjoy all of them but the studio sessions are really special. Sorry CHUCK but, for this ears, TOO MANY SALTY SWIFT is the best of this band and one of the very finest CECIL TAYLOR records. The fact that people doesn't get it tells more about them than about the music. TOO MANY, in his new edition, is the sole record of TAYLOR to give you the EXACT picture of what was a concert of CT at this time. One of the greatest live recording I've EVER heard. Edited July 3, 2006 by P.L.M Quote
P.L.M Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 (edited) it doesn't make much sense for me to repress a disc that took 5 years to sell out of its initial 800 copies (not counting promos and musician copies). not saying I won't repress anything again, but it makes increasingly less sense in this marketplace. Do it as CDR when people ask for a copy. Sell it cheaper but with the true art work. Edited July 3, 2006 by P.L.M Quote
jon abbey Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 Do it as CDR when people ask for a copy. Sell it cheaper but with the true art work. I don't have extra copies of the artwork either, and I really don't think any Ersts are very hard to find. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted July 3, 2006 Report Posted July 3, 2006 Cadged from the IHM site: SS008: Derek Bailey: To Play - The Blemish Sessions David has just completed mixing and mastering the session that Derek Bailey recorded for the album 'Blemish'. It was to be the last solo studio session Derek recorded before the onset of illness. It's a remarkably intimate series of recordings with Derek performing at the peak of his powers. The album is titled 'To Play (The Blemish Sessions)' and is currently set for release in Sept. 06, 2006. Quote
king ubu Posted July 4, 2006 Report Posted July 4, 2006 So these Bailey sessions were done in early 2003 when Sylvian's "Blemish" was recorded? Sounds pretty interesting! ******************** Me got this nice 5CD package from mimaroglu music sales (thanks for posting the link above!): - Polwechsel/Fennesz: Wrapped Island (erstwhile 023) - Axel Dörner/Kevin Drumm (erstwhile 015)* - Fe-Mail featuring Lasse Marhaug: All Men Are Pigs (gameboy gb56)** - Axel Dörner/Greg Kelley/Andrea Neuman/Bhob Rainey (sedimental 036)*** - Michel Doneda/Jack Wright/Tatsuya Nakatani: From Between (soseditions 801)**** *) one hell of a great cover, jon!!! **) ok, ok, I only got it because of the cover art ***) is "Thanks / Cash" the title or not really? ****) very nice package, but difficult to open without damaging it, and *very* difficult to read! Quote
Guest Chaney Posted July 4, 2006 Report Posted July 4, 2006 ***) is "Thanks / Cash" the title or not really? Yepper. From Sedimental: Axel Doerner/Greg Kelley/Andrea Neumann/Bhob Rainey Thanks, Cash SEDCD036 Released in 2004 If you find yourself liking From Between, be sure to pick up a copy of No Stranger to Air. Quote
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