Bright Moments Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 i just spun this and i have to say that my response is luke warm. a lot of talent on this disc, joining belden is lovano, soloff, herwig and hagans to name a few of the stars. it is billed as noir - but i am not convinced. a few cuts kept my interest i.e. "The Edge of Forever" just my opinion - perhaps i will be rewarded after some repeated listenings. what say y'all? Quote
JSngry Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 You will be rewarded after some repeated listenings, but how much is not for me to speculate. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 Mark Isham's soundtrack to this film was better than I expected. And better than the film itself. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I think Belden leans too much on Gil Evans' conception from "Our of the Cool", including a drummer as bongo player, which sounds pretty obtrusive to my ears. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I really wanted to like it. Never really have. Quote
Guest Bill Barton Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 It's been awhile since I've heard this. I think that I have a copy around here somewhere... Gearing up for moving so the CD stacks are even more out-of-control than usual... Belden's "concept" projects run hot and cold for me. The stuff he did with Tim Hagans dubbed Animation/Imagination is another matter altogether. A few years back in Montreal I heard that group live and it was hotter than hell. The Blue Note "live" album from that gig doesn't even begin to capture the excitement and creativity of the actual show. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I like this album, but then again I'm a sucker for crime jazz, so I'm biased. Quote
JSngry Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 The stuff he did with Tim Hagans dubbed Animation/Imagination is another matter altogether. A few years back in Montreal I heard that group live and it was hotter than hell. The Blue Note "live" album from that gig doesn't even begin to capture the excitement and creativity of the actual show. Agreed on all counts...never got to hear them live, but have heard some shows, and...yeah. It's time. Past time, actually... But they went there, and they went there well. Quote
marcello Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I like this album, but then again I'm a sucker for crime jazz, so I'm biased. Then, you might like these: 1 Fallen Angel (5:34) 2 Chinatown (7:11) 3 Les Modernes (5:33) 4 Katya (Love Theme from "The Russia House") (3:46) 5 Promenade Sentimentale (from "Diva") (3:36) 6 Theme from "Mulholland Falls" (4:58) 7 Body Heat (5:50) 8 A Farewell To Maria (8:01) 9 Last Kiss (7:28) 10 Farewell, My Lovely (6:04) 11 Hurricane Country (6:48) Bob Sneider, guitar; Joe Locke, vibes; Paul Hofmann, piano; John Sneider, trumpet; Grant Stewart, tenor sax; Phil Flanigan, bass; Mike Melito, drums 1. LAST TANGO IN PARIS 6:48 2. AFTERGLOW 5:56 3. THEME FROM BLOW UP 7:33 4. LAURA 6:13 5. BLACK DAHLIA 5:56 6. WINDMILLS OF YOUR MIND 6:13 7. NOCTURNE FOR AVA 5:53 8. KISS ME, KILL ME 7:15 9. I WANT TO LIVE MAIN THEME 6:58 10. FLIRTIBIRD 5:21 11. LOS FELIZ 6:27 Performers: JOHN SNEIDER trumpet GRANT STEWART tenor BOB SNEIDER guitar JOE LOCKE vibes PAUL HOFMANN piano MARTIN WIND bass TIM HORNER drums LUISITO QUINTERO percussion Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 Then, you might like these: Never heard of them. Thanks for sharing. Quote
jlhoots Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 The best of those Belden Blue Notes is Turandot (IMHO). Almost impossible to find. Japanese only I believe. Someone brought me a copy years ago when they were in Japan. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 While I'll never claim to be "excited" by Black Dahlia, I do think it's a pretty decent album -- particularly as far as "movie soundtrack"-type music goes. Didn't love it the first time I heard it, but it's grown on me a bit over the years. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Having conversed with Bob via E-mail lately and had him send me some of his other works, I feel he meant for "Black Dahlia" to be heard in a surround system. Bob is big into multi-channel music and if you spin the multichannel SACD of this, you feel more involved than when you play the two channel mix. However, having said this, I agree with another poster that "Turandot" is Bob's masterpiece. It's crazy that Puccini's estate was able to get it pulled for copyright violation because someone added two bars of music to the opera in 1925. Later, Kevin Edited July 21, 2009 by Kevin Bresnahan Quote
Cliff Englewood Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 It's crazy that Puccini's estate was able to get it pulled for copyright violation because some cousin added two bars of music to the opera in 1925. Later, Kevin Eh... WTF??? Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 It's crazy that Puccini's estate was able to get it pulled for copyright violation because some cousin added two bars of music to the opera in 1925. Later, Kevin Eh... WTF??? Puccini died in 1924, so technically "Turandot" should be in the public domain. However, Puccini died before he could finish it. Franco Alfano was brought on to finish it. There is some debate as to how much Alfano added, with some claiming he merely formalized Puccini's final sketches. However, the copyright date for "Turandot" is now 75 years after Franco Alfano's death in 1954 because of his little edit. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 However, the copyright date for "Turandot" is now 75 years after Franco Alfano's death in 1954 because of his little edit. Only 20 years left to wait. Quote
david weiss Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 While I'll never claim to be "excited" by Black Dahlia, I do think it's a pretty decent album -- particularly as far as "movie soundtrack"-type music goes. I think this is a pretty accurate assessment. Again because it was on a major label it had to hyped as more than it probably was. It was great they laid out the bread for Belden to realize this project but they probably owed him considering all the fine work he did for them. I agree that Turandot is stronger. The one I always liked and I'm not sure this one saw the light of day was a collaboration between Belden and a flute player whose name I can't recall. Belden reworked The Four Seasons for him and the excerpts Belden played for me at the time he was recording it were killing. This wasn't for Blue Note (I think it was for the flute players label) and I'm not sure it was released. Kevin, did he send you this? Quote
Big Wheel Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 The Four Seasons stuff is covered a bit in this thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=23589 Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 30, 2010 Report Posted January 30, 2010 I spun this a few times recently and I have to say I really love this album. I get a lot out of it with repeated listenings. But I also re-visited the Mark Isham soundtrack and was far less enthused about it than I was previously. In fact I unloaded it in a CD purge. Quote
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