chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 29, 2009 Report Posted November 29, 2009 ok u guys, remember that one time i did i thread on how i had a jimmy lp w/ a DOUBLE LABEL suck on? well i am not joking around, my NATURAL SOUL i just got, has another label betheath, the 1st one is stuck on tight, its not loose like on the former lp... but it clearly is another label. i see RED TOP, i also see the name of STANLEY turrentine.....i also, lastly, see clearly thru the label when held to light, the word PRAYER..... now you guys said before it might not be unheard of to have a double label by mistake, but what the hell is going on here. it is an original press RVG 'ear' now prayer meetin isnt near Natural soul in the catlog i didnt think....what is going on!??!?!?!? Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Posted November 29, 2009 have to add: this shows u BN made mistakes, pre-BOOBY! lol Quote
sidewinder Posted November 29, 2009 Report Posted November 29, 2009 and I've got an original mono Sidewinder with a clear white label on one side. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Posted November 30, 2009 wai wait is the BLUE NOTE insignia on it at all w/o the track list or is truly just PLAIN WHITE? odd.... ok so prayer meetin comes about 20 or so records in the catalogue after Natural soul. what does this tell us? eg. did BN press runs for a while into the releasing of others, or eg. BN printed a while lot of different records all at once, etc Quote
sidewinder Posted November 30, 2009 Report Posted November 30, 2009 Completely plain white on one side chewy. My theory - they were churning out so many of these to satisfy marketing demand for Lee's 'hit' resulting in the occasional quality assurance shortfall. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 30, 2009 Report Posted November 30, 2009 Funny this. "Prayer meeting" and "Sidewinder" were on the pop charts at roughly the same time - the Smith was a couple of months before the Morgan, but stayed on the chart five months, so they overlapped. But "Natural Soul" was on the pop chart over a year before "Prayer meeting" hit. It must have continued to sell well after its brief chart appearance, so that a new pressing run was required a year later. We could probably tell, if there'd been an R&B album chart in those days, because "Natural soul" would surely have been on that for a long time. But there was no such thing as an R&B album chart in '63. Blue Note didn't do their own pressings. Can you see Alfred and Francis sweating over hot presses, trying to keep up with demand on those hits? Oh, and by the way, "Sidewinder" wasn't a 'hit'; it was a hit. An album that makes #25 in the pop chart and spends 7 months on the chart is most decidedly a hit. MG Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Posted December 1, 2009 so your saying my natural soul is a later run off the line and not 1st issue? who made BN's vinyl? Quote
sidewinder Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 who made BN's vinyl? In that earlier (pre-Liberty) era, Plastylite. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Posted December 1, 2009 did they make record for a lot of people? that manufacturer? Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 did they make record for a lot of people? that manufacturer? If you do a search in those Bilboards where you were finding all that stuff about legal actions re Crown, I bet you could find adverts from Plastylite listing eminent (satisfied) customers. MG Quote
kh1958 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 have to add: this shows u BN made mistakes, pre-BOOBY! lol My copy of Duke Pearson's Wahoo has the back cover label affixed upside down. Quote
AndrewHill Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 have to add: this shows u BN made mistakes, pre-BOOBY! lol My copy of Duke Pearson's Wahoo has the back cover label affixed upside down. My copy of Jackie's Right Now! has two back slicks glued on the cardboard backcover. Grachan's name was also misspelled as "Gracham" on the front cover of Herbie's My Point of View. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 have to add: this shows u BN made mistakes, pre-BOOBY! lol My copy of Duke Pearson's Wahoo has the back cover label affixed upside down. Not uncommon; I've had one like that too. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Posted December 2, 2009 Ohhhhhhhhhhhh so now were all comming out of the closet: BLue note have a lot of quality control problems throughOUT, didnt it! omg. im sure we havent learned the worst of all yet, i shutter to think! Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Posted December 2, 2009 what about THIS errror? who led the charge on this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/HANK-MOBLEY-Lp-Soul-St...=item3ca7cc1936 seriously............. Quote
sidewinder Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 what about THIS errror? who led the charge on this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/HANK-MOBLEY-Lp-Soul-St...=item3ca7cc1936 seriously............. That was a Liberty era re-pressing with different sleeve art. I've got a couple of them - there was one of the Bennie Green's in this style too, plus the original of Grant Green 'Carryin' On'. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 what about THIS errror? who led the charge on this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/HANK-MOBLEY-Lp-Soul-St...=item3ca7cc1936 seriously............. That was a Liberty era re-pressing with different sleeve art. I've got a couple of them - there was one of the Bennie Green's in this style too, plus the original of Grant Green 'Carryin' On'. And Lou Donaldson's "Everything I play is funky", Blue Mitchell's "Heads up", BJP's "Accent on the blues", and more that I can't be asked to think of. MG Quote
sidewinder Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 I think I've seen a Jimmy Smith 'Plain Talk' in this style too. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 I didn't know there was a style other than that damn face-in-the-cup cover. Quote
JSngry Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 There's not, at least in America. But you talk about reissues of this era w/different covers, there's also Lou's The Time Is Right, Sunnyside Up, & one by Grant...Latin Bit, is it? Don't recall for sure...maybe one or two others? No? Bueller? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 I'm not seeing an alternate on gokudo... Quote
Chas Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 But you talk about reissues of this era w/different covers, there's also Lou's The Time Is Right, Sunnyside Up, & one by Grant...Latin Bit, is it? Don't recall for sure...maybe one or two others? No? Don't know about a Liberty-redesigned cover for The Latin Bit , but there was one for Green Street and possibly Grant's First Stand (featuring a coat rack ?) . I posted the redesigned covers for Donaldson's The Time Is Right and Bennie Green's Walkin' & Talkin' here . As for Donaldson's Sunny Side Up , the original cover is nothing special , so the Liberty cover isn't that much of a let down , obvious though it is : Quote
JSngry Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Yeah, Street Of Greens, that's the one. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Posted December 3, 2009 did you just make that sonny side up cover on photoshop? nice try...... Quote
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