Mark Stryker Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Anyone heard this or know anything more about its provenance? Odd that Louis Hayes is here given the date but perhaps he rejoined for just a quick one-off gig. Nat Adderley (cor) Cannonball Adderley (as) Joe Zawinul (p) Victor Gaskin (b) Louis Hayes (d) live in Milan, Italy, 1969 The Scavenger Joker (J) UPS 2057 Sweet Emma - Ballad Medley - This Here - Manha De Carnaval - Walk Tall - * Cannonball Adderley - Alto Giant (Joker (J) UPS 2057) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Wouldn't surprise me if its been offered on Dime, and in fresher sound. But aside from that suspicion, I couldn't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 This one, on March 14, 1969 has Roy McCurdy, so the Joker issue might be wrong since it's another live concert in Europe. If you look here:Alto Giant Roy is listed instead of Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I've got 3 Cannonball concert broadcasts from 1969, all supposedly from March, all with Roy McCurdy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 The 1969 Cannonball recordings from Europe are awesome. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Seems as if the discography may well have it wrong. Interestingly, the LP I saw today (but did not buy) had a cover identical to that which Marcello's link produces, but Hayes was definitely listed as the drummer. I don't recall the label, nor whether a more specific recording date is given beyond 1969 in Milan. Edited July 22, 2010 by Mark Stryker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 There is a label called "Lotus" ( a 1980 release ) that seems to come up more frequently for this date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Those Italian bootlegs Joker, Lotus and many others) from the 70s/80s had a lot of incorrect personnel and dates informations. McCurdy was the drummer on that Adderley 1969 European tour, not Louis Hayes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 did you catch them live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 While I might give the sextet with Yusef a slightly higher overall grade based on YL's playing, Cannonball, Joe and Nat were much more interesting/exciting players at this point. Plus, Joe was entering his peak as a composer around this period - the breadth of his work, from shamelessly populist to utterly experimental and everything in between, is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 did you catch them live? No... and I blew all my chances to hear Cannonball live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) I heard them around this time out on Long Island (at Jazz Interactions, probably 1969) and it wasn't very good, too many vamps and not enough real soloing. Edited July 22, 2010 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 And, I hate to say it, maybe too much talking. But what the hell. Tried to catch him whenever I could - heard him many times, beginning with the Charles Lloyd sextet up to what may have been his last (or close to it) performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 The Dobre boot is a little later, but way cool as well. http://www.jazzdisco.org/cannonball-adderley/catalog/#dobre-dr-1008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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